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Topic: Libra sun - do they stay through thick and thin?
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Xodian Knowflake Posts: 708 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2014 07:03 PM
Libra Sun and Venus here (Leo Asc. and Moon.) For the right person who loves me for me (*cough* My Wife *cough*,) hell yeah I will stick by her side through thick and thin; May it be dealing with a bad day at work or fighting through a Zombie Apocalypse. Hell, I'll make sure that we are the most proficient and badass Zombie Slaying couple ever . My wife's needs, wants and personal development are important to me . Incidentally enough, she is a Libra Rising so I guess it helps us to connect and understand the value of a good partnership based on love and mutual trust . IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 3766 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 11, 2014 08:08 PM
Libra takes forever to decide to fully commit to someone, and until full commitment happens then Libra can be flaky and move on if things get too unpleasant. But once fully committed then they'll stick next to you with a loyalty that's rare, perhaps more dedicated to being fair to their partner than to themselves. This assumes outside forces at work...Libra won't take constant abuse or criticism, even the fully committed Libra will eventually have enough and leave...fortunately, their being indecisive for so long usually means that they'll detect toxic people like that before they do fully commit.  IP: Logged |
summerlite Knowflake Posts: 927 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 08:44 PM
Fixed signs stay through thick and thin.Apparently jumping ships is considered staying through thick and thin here. lol... IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 3766 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 11, 2014 08:48 PM
As for the attraction to Aries...First, it must be understood, Libra isn't against conflict, but rather promotes harmony which can include conflict, especially in the interest of justice and fairness to promote harmony. A Libra isn't likely to enjoy Jerry Springer, that's just stupid, and they aren't impressed by loud mouth vulgarities the way many others are (my own view of people who use too much vulgarity is that they're trying to give their brain precious extra seconds to form a coherent thought) as they see the people who engage in it as not having a REAL point beyond immaturity. But then that type of conflict isn't conducive to harmony. Libra is more likely to strategically engage in conflict more as a lawyer than a hothead, and will typically avoid pointless conflict (though they may engage against someone for the sake of someone else). And in trying to be fair to others (the point isn't to be right, it's to be fair and promote harmony for the group) they can come off as being spineless and/or unfaithful because they try to see more than one side, unlike most other people who can only see their own (and thus sees Libra as fickle or untrustworthy). Of course others are surprised when Libra stands firm as will happen when it's important enough. And Libra often loves the mental stimulation of a debate...which Aries is more than happy to provide. Even better, Aries is usually willing to forget an argument when Libra is, and that can be fun for Libra (and Aries appreciates a worthy opponent even if they can't stand losing). That was certainly true of me when I dated an "Aries Deluxe." I suppose you could call her a "bad girl" (technically a "stud" or A-G, A-G standing for aggressive, a type of masculine lesbian though not extremely so, they can often pass for tomboys rather than butch lesbians). I could easily make a TLDR post on what drew us together but suffice to say I found her amusing in being so unexpected at times and I admired her ability to not have to think everything through (not that I wanted to be like that, but I did think I could stand to be a LITTLE MORE like that, and she a little more like me). She was wonderful company (including passionate debates) on a long road trip to Texas and back (she took me as I lost my ride and had to leave or she was going to kill her roomies, perhaps literally) and the sex was really good for both of us (I was intrigued with her so when she came onto me, possibly more out of boredom, I responded...perhaps best I had so that I didn't find myself stranded as it was her jeep...). I also loved taking a tattooed lesbian blasian stud raised in South LA and mixing them with my small town redneck family, it was quite entertaining to see them mix. Later on I enjoyed exploring my feminine side that she insisted on (when before I was androgynous and tomboyish) which was fun and I learned being feminine didn't mean giving up autonomy, there's a power in women just as there is in men (plus, it helped me in business a lot, too), and that Aries met her match in me. It was a real rocky start and I came real close to breaking it off early on, in part because I will NOT tolerate attempts at physical bullying, but she straightened up and I wouldn't call her "bad" for the most part. She had her vices, but I saw a part of her that most never do, and though she was fiery and temperamental I saw much to admire about her, saw things that most people never did because they couldn't look past the tats, muscles, boyish dress, and an attitude that I could understand given her background (and her chart). Nevertheless, I did have to make allowances, but I called her on her BS when she crossed the line and ended up leaving her over it, I did not tolerate truly bad behavior. She was the only one that way, and the only Aries. As for her opposite I had a fling once with a cross dressing Pisces guy who was very submissive (not that feminine men are automatically submissive, some can be demanding prisses), and with him I loved his humor (I think all the Sag in his chart which also connected to my own Sag placements). I never had a "type," every single close relationship (and even many superficial ones) were all different from all the others. I've never been attracted to bad boy/girl behavior, and as for the Aries, I didn't put up with it from her. There's also my Aries cousin and granny whom I'm close to...Granny was definitely an Aries but I obviously didn't know her when she was young (I wouldn't say she was ever "bad" though many would disagree--more for her radical idealism and impulsiveness, though the time she brought guns onto a hippie commune in response to bikers raping women there is certainly notable, though I'd call that smart no matter how much it upset many of the hippies there). Her intense love and protectiveness for me was very much appreciated growing up, however. And me and my cousin (a free spirited redneck with a love for "outlaw country" and what many in the Bible Belt would call a "bad boy" but he's not mean) did fight a lot, but there was also love there. As he once joked (I think it was a joke...) no one was allowed to hurt me but him. I found him hilarious at times (even as Granny found him infuriating though she let us both live with her) but I wouldn't let him cross the line either (I even beat him up once, though he was laughing at me too hard to properly defend himself)...perhaps all my Sag energy helped. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 871 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 08:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by summerlite: Fixed signs stay through thick and thin.Apparently jumping ships is considered staying through thick and thin here. lol...
Ohhhh is that what happened to you? LOL Seriously... I've only seen it once and her husband was physically/verbally abusive. However, ultimately she still stuck by him. I'm not sure why, but she did. Others I've known... I've never seen it happen. I'm not trying to be a libra lover. I seriously haven't seen it other than that one scenario. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 871 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 08:56 PM
Wow... Pixie, your description of Libra was really good! Just little things like generally not liking vulgarity, etc. IP: Logged |
summerlite Knowflake Posts: 927 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 09:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: Ohhhh is that what happened to you? LOL Seriously... I've only seen it once and her husband was physically/verbally abusive. However, ultimately she still stuck by him. I'm not sure why, but she did. Others I've known... I've never seen it happen. I'm not trying to be a libra lover. I seriously haven't seen it other than that one scenario.
Like you have an opinion besides agreeing to your gf......Ken.
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DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 871 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 09:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by summerlite: Like you have an opinion besides agreeing to your gf......Ken.
I like libras. My brother-in-law is one. He's SOOOO funny! Hell you can search from before we were together and I still said it. Go ahead... You'll see. Let me know how it feels. LMAO IP: Logged |
Gabby Knowflake Posts: 2508 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 09:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: Ohhhh is that what happened to you? LOL Seriously... I've only seen it once and her husband was physically/verbally abusive. However, ultimately she still stuck by him. I'm not sure why, but she did. Others I've known... I've never seen it happen. I'm not trying to be a libra lover. I seriously haven't seen it other than that one scenario.
Being libra dominant....I feel sometimes libra staying power is admirable, at first, but in times of trouble, or if it turns bad....it can also come from fear of leaving rather than a positive attribute of their nature. Being unsure that there is something better on the other side, an inability to make a decision and stick to it, fear of what everyone else will think and how you will be judged and even the realization that if you leave....you failed at love! Honestly, that's probably Libras biggest fear....period! Failing at love, how can we do that? We are the ones who supposedly live by love, Venus ruled!!! It's like we failed ourselves, we failed our purpose and life just fell to pieces in front of us! Staying power....its great to give it to us as an admirable quality but I've lived and loved libra style for all my life, in a few years it'll be 40 years, sometimes it is admirable and sometimes it isn't!! Libra staying power isn't always from a healthy place, we stay because we are in fear...of everything ! We fear jumping from the pan into the fire, so we don't move when we are getting hurt in a relationship! When we finally leave we can stay single, but again it's our of fear of what's on the other side...are we going to open up and trust again just to get beat back down and have to escape another painful place....the questions are to much and the fear keeps us frozen! I think the reason I'm still single is I'm terrified of failing at love again, I tried so hard and put every ounce of my heart into it and still I couldn't make it work! I felt like such a failure and I don't know if I can handle feeling like that about myself again! Plus Libra Pluto conjunct Venus on my AC means my mistakes are out there for everyone to see and very dramatic....ly painful!
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DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 871 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 10:25 PM
Gabby, I can relate to that completely, from what I've seen I mean. A libra who was married to this REALLY ROTTEN man asked me what she should do after staying with him for three years. She didn't want to give up but yes, was afraid and just didn't want to give up, period. (he was verbally abusive, never worked, SUPER jealous, cheated) She did leave him eventually. I've heard a similar story a couple of other times from libras. IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 8807 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 10:36 PM
Libra is an air sign.. people forget this.So not they won't stay through thick and thin until they are married! In this particular contractual agreement it clearly states that sickness and health richer and poorer Unless of course their spouse breaks their vows by cheating.. than yes they will see this as a loop hole and leave if they feel the marriage is over. My sister has Venus in Libra conjunct dsc and got a divorce as soon as she found out her husband was deceiving her.. Although later she told me the reason she got a divorce was because she was not in love but the deception just seemed like a good reason to get out. Which i have to admit is pretty clever, IP: Logged |
Gabby Knowflake Posts: 2508 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 10:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: Libra is an air sign.. people forget this.So not they won't stay through thick and thin until they are married! In this particular contractual agreement it clearly states that sickness and health richer and poorer Unless of course their spouse breaks their vows by cheating.. than yes they will see this as a loop hole and leave if they feel the marriage is over. My sister has Venus in Libra conjunct dsc and got a divorce as soon as she found out her husband was deceiving her.. Although later she told me the reason she got a divorce was because she was not in love but that just seemed like a good reason to get out. Which i have to admit is pretty clever,
Yes there does have to be a respectable reason for leaving....cheating or seeing you must protect your children! We never leave just because we are not getting our needs met, or some frivolous reason based on us wanting attention . It cannot or will not be because we are not being loved or taken care of....we always feel we can fix that or it will change if we just try a little but harder because how can love fail? It's not until we have found grounds for leaving and began our exit that we will admit to how bad it really was and takes even longer to admit that we were not in love anymore and wanted to leave long before we did! Really we don't even allow ourselves to acknowledge that we were not in love and believe it until we have made our exit. We don't even talk bad about them until we are leaving...we don't give up until we have reached the point of no return. After that, and we walk is when all our pain pours out and we are forced to see it, accept it and try to be ok with our failure!
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summerlite Knowflake Posts: 927 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 11:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: Libra is an air sign.. people forget this.So not they won't stay through thick and thin until they are married! In this particular contractual agreement it clearly states that sickness and health richer and poorer Unless of course their spouse breaks their vows by cheating.. than yes they will see this as a loop hole and leave if they feel the marriage is over. My sister has Venus in Libra conjunct dsc and got a divorce as soon as she found out her husband was deceiving her.. Although later she told me the reason she got a divorce was because she was not in love but the deception just seemed like a good reason to get out. Which i have to admit is pretty clever,
Information manipulation. They will always point and say it's someone else's fault when they've zoned out long ago.
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Gabby Knowflake Posts: 2508 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 11:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by summerlite: Information manipulation. They will always point and say it's someone else's fault when they've zoned out long ago.
Wow! IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 2814 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 11:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by summerlite: Information manipulation. They will always point and say it's someone else's fault when they've zoned out long ago.
Ha is that what happened to you summerlite LOL Not every libra is like the jerk who screwed you over. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 871 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 11:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: Ha is that what happened to you summerlite LOL Not ever libra is like the jerk who screwed you over.
I know right? It's becoming more and more apparent. The hatred is just stupid. There's no logical reason for it otherwise. It's kind of amusing. LOL IP: Logged |
summerlite Knowflake Posts: 927 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 11, 2014 11:34 PM
You really don't have an opinion of your own, deepfreeze. I don't think you've learnt anything from your failed marriage either.IP: Logged |
Gabby Knowflake Posts: 2508 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 11:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by summerlite: Information manipulation. They will always point and say it's someone else's fault when they've zoned out long ago.
Summerlite, did something happen that makes you feel that is the nature of libra?
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 7436 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 11, 2014 11:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Summerlite, did something happen that makes you feel that is the nature of libra?
Gabby, Summerlite won't tell you anything. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 871 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 12, 2014 12:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by summerlite: You really don't have an opinion of your own, deepfreeze. I don't think you've learnt anything from your failed marriage either.
I spent two years single before Barbiegirl19, working on myself and what I want. Did you know that? Nope. I turned down people until I felt that spark that I had been waiting for. I learned from my part in what went wrong with the marriage and there's not one bitter cell in my body. I look at as nothing BUT a learning experience and I learned a ton. I'm glad it happened. It helped shape me into who I am. Nice try at attempting to get me upset. Fact is... I don't have an feelings about it whatsoever other than what I can take away from it. With Barbiegirl19... The chemistry and connection to her FAR AND AWAY trumps that of anyone, including the ex-wife. It's right there with my best friend of 32 years, which I swear we have a psychic connection. 12th house, Thank you. I looooove it! I think it's hilarious that you're trying to dig for information that you can insult me with. LMAO Upset much? How long did you spend to find that? LMAO Laaaaaame IP: Logged |
Gabby Knowflake Posts: 2508 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 12, 2014 12:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: Gabby, Summerlite won't tell you anything.
Awe.....wish she would! it can help sometimes to feel like your understood! IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 7436 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 12, 2014 12:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Awe.....wish she would! it can help sometimes to feel like your understood!
You can likely conclude just by the responses there's a broken heart somewhere...and a deep insecurity about letting anything be known online which I can understand but it's okay to let people know basic bits of info, like gender. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 2814 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 12, 2014 12:05 AM
Is summerlite a man or a woman?IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 871 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 12, 2014 12:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: You can likely conclude just by the responses there's a broken heart somewhere...and a deep insecurity about letting anything be known online which I can understand but it's okay to let people know basic bits of info, like gender.
Yeah, I mean...it's one thing to just not like a sign. But this is taking EVERY opportunity possible to dig at libra. Then when it's called out they hunt for personal information to retaliate. It just seems so obvious to me. I would normally sympathize but in this case barbiegirl19 and I are over here cracking up. LOL IP: Logged |
Gabby Knowflake Posts: 2508 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 12, 2014 12:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: You can likely conclude just by the responses there's a broken heart somewhere...and a deep insecurity about letting anything be known online which I can understand but it's okay to let people know basic bits of info, like gender.
Agreed! I've seen enough to sense that, but it never hurts to let someone know you care ! I don't pay attention to the arguments around here, so I don't really know if Summerlite just needs a friend or is just using this forum as a way to vent anger. What I do know is, to me, Summerlite always been kind so of course I'm going to return that! I would be kind to anyone on here, because they have all been kind to me! I like you all!!  IP: Logged |