posted February 12, 2014 05:15 PM            

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Originally posted by OrientalApples:
Can you share more about what you've learned about Sun- Saturn? I have this will my bf.

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Well I'll try to explain it as best as I can, I just recently started really digging into astrology so these are just my own observations with applying the info I've learned so far.

First let's start with a quote from a website http://astrolady.wix.com/astrolady#!saturn-in-synastry-relationship-hell/cv4v

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The Sun-Saturn energy in synastry is much like the energy between a parent and child. In those two relationships, I felt that I was scolding my misbehaving children.

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So keep that in mind and also remember what I said above about it being a representation of the relationship with your father.

With my first ex of 6-7 yrs, two children together..there was a sense of responsibility from him. I was a stay-at-home mom when we were together I never worked. He could be controlling, but not in the way you'd think. I was in a pretty bad car accident before me and him got together. So for that reason, I don't like to drive. Well I'm the independent type and have no problem riding the bus to where I needed to go. But HE insisted on driving me every where I needed to be. In a sense that's a form of control, because I would be completely dependent on him to get me where I need to go and pick me up. He did criticize me. Not often, but usually when we fought and he'd talk about how I needed to work or how I kept house things of that nature. The article above says that the Saturn wants to dominate and dominate he did. Also he ALWAYS forgave me when I'd fly off the handle and say hateful things to him..like a parent would forgive a child for messing up.

The second relationship (that did not last but a hot second, because we had some red flag aspects) *I* was the Saturn, and while he was here HE was not working so *I* took care of the finances. I often did fuss at him for the way he did things. I did try to support him in his efforts to look for work, but he beat himself up too much. I don't *think* I dominated him or tried too..perhaps we weren't together long enough for that to manifest. Also he was the one where things got physically violent, at the time I cut him off immediately..but then I later re-opened the lines of communication and forgave him. BUT he wanted to get back together I didn't.

The third relationship (the one that just ended) HE was the Saturn and in the short time we were together and he stayed here he worked and would take me where I needed to go if I needed a ride. The relationship felt very domestic right away. Seeing as how it's so fresh (hasn't even been week since the break up) I don't know if he will forgive me for the way I cut him off after he dumped me and the harsh words I said. Time will tell.

Now as a bonus, I just found out that my very good male friend of over 11 yrs--his Saturn trines my Sun. After thinking about it it was much different in the sense that he's always looked out for me and I don't feel "dominated" by him. Also I get easy forgiveness from him. He said no matter what he'd never get so mad at me he'd not talk to me and said he'd always love me. I supported him during a very dark period in his life and I let him stay with me two time where he needed to get on his feet. This last time I had to kick him out because he had run through two jobs in the 3 mos he was here. He's an alcoholic, so he struggles with I know I can't cure him of that and I no longer wanted to enable him so I called his girlfriend and told her to send for him so he can leave my house. While I think I hurt his feelings and I didn't talk to him for a few months again he said he's not mad and that he loves me.

posted February 12, 2014 05:28 PM            

I want to correct him, but I never do, because I don't want to get into that cycle. You said, I said..etc.

As for the dominating aspect, he definitely wants to be my number 1 even over my friends. He thinks or feels I should confide in him first--reminds me of a married couple. But we are not. In fact, he never wants to get married. And hey that's perfectly fine with me, I've never said I wanted to or have ever really aspired to. It's an odd pairing...and people say we act married but he's vocal about not getting married--issues with his mom "whoring" around on his faithful dad of 20 years...that kind of thing.

posted February 12, 2014 06:24 PM            

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Originally posted by OrientalApples:
I read Astrolady's blog before. I just clicked on your link and went back. I kind of like her stuff, very interesting. And this limiting growth via Saturn makes a lot more sense after reading some of her real life scenario break ups and makeups, the celebrity stuff...Well I'm glad you are definitely out of that relationship. Feel depressed just visualizing it for myself.

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Yea it sucked, only real great thing to come from it was our two beautiful daughters. As I went back over what I wrote, maybe my breaking up with the last guy was the universe's way of saving me from a repeat of similar drama & despair. They did remind me of each other a lot.

posted February 13, 2014 06:11 PM            

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Originally posted by OrientalApples:
It may very well be. But only time will tell. Let me know how it goes, if your current ex, will try to come back after the retrograde is over. That would be interesting.

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posted February 13, 2014 07:31 PM            

His sun ( 3rd ) trines my saturn (7th)
His venus ( 3rd ) trines my saturn ( 7th )
My venus ( 1st ) opposes his saturn ( 11th )

We also have ( generational aspects )

saturn ( 11th ) conjunct saturn (7th )
his saturn ( 11th ) square my chiron ( 4th )
my saturn ( 7th ) squares his chiron ( 8th )

We were highschool class mates.. And our fathers were friends from same work environment. We were friendly with each other, he was my class mate but that's all. I did not fancy him, he did not fancy me.. ( later he confessed me that he was in love with my best pal at that time. She is still my best friend & married ) Anyway, we graduated.. We were not really friends so we were not in touch. Only a couple of times we ran up to each other here and there.. Almost 17 years later he found me via his ex-girlfriend. He got my number and called me and I invited him to my house party. I was in love with someone else at that time but it was about to be over so I was open to anyone who could nurse my broken heart... He came to the party, he made a move, we started to have an affair but only after a shortwhile I decided to cut my ties with him. He kept calling, I did not answer neither his calls, nor his messages for a year and a half. But he did not give up. I don't want to bore you with all the details.
One day I answered. We restarted the affair. On/off it has been 4 years..

Our relationship never really took off. Saturn in the 7th may be the root cause of this.

But I really don't want to see him again. But I feel that he will keep on calling..

We have moon square / opposite neptune aspects.. Double whammy. I sincerely don't know how I am deceiving him that's what they say about moon / neptune synastry but I know for sure that he is a deceiever,liar and a womaniser..

posted February 14, 2014 05:06 PM            

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Originally posted by OrientalApples:
I gathered that for long-term pairings it stems from Saturn. Can any of you suggest any ready material regarding Saturn?

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posted February 14, 2014 05:19 PM            

Neice - sun sq. Saturn

Boyfr. - moon conj. Saturn ( natal)
mars opp. Saturn ( natal )

posted February 15, 2014 04:51 PM            

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Originally posted by olgatheo:
The best is Liz Greene book on Saturn !!!!!

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Thanks for the recommendation!

posted February 15, 2014 05:18 PM            

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Originally posted by OrientalApples:
Thanks for the recommendation!

And I have yet to find other aspects in family members charts or yet do them period. I know my bf has venus square saturn and that's interesting in itself, since I heard that they may never really find love. Is that true or just hearsay?

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posted February 15, 2014 08:50 PM            

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Originally posted by olgatheo:
Anyone notice Saturn through family lines

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Yes. Strangely, my husband's Saturn is conjunct my father's Saturn, both conjunct my Venus within 2 degrees, conjunct my daughter's SN.

As for the OP's question:

My Saturn is conjunct my husband's sun, 7 degrees orb, and we've been married almost 15 years. That's pretty long, especially considering how many obstacles we've faced.

posted February 16, 2014 04:32 PM            

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Originally posted by OrientalApples:
Can you elaborate a little more on the sun reveal itself. Very interesting you say that about time. My bf is 7 years younger than me. But we really can't tell the difference most days, except when arguments arise, this issue will come up.

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