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TrueLoveWaits
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posted February 14, 2014 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueLoveWaits     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all, I am new to the forum

Still a newbie when it comes to chart readings so I thought I'd ask for a little help with my current crush. I don't have her exact birth date so I just put in 12 pm; apologies in advance for any inconvenience there. I see her around at work a few times a month and there always seems to be some tension and nervousness between us... I can barely look her in the eye sometimes! I feel super drawn to this girl, but for various reasons haven't acted on my attraction. Would love some insight..

This is the synastry:

This is the composite:

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TrueLoveWaits
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posted February 14, 2014 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueLoveWaits     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oops have i committed some kind of posting faux pas?

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Orange
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posted February 14, 2014 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
who is inside the wheel and who out side?

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TrueLoveWaits
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posted February 14, 2014 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueLoveWaits     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange, I'm on the outside (in red); she is in the inside (in blue).

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Virgo1992
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posted February 15, 2014 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo1992     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi ,

In your synastry chart i see Her Venus trine your mars , this is a very good aspect to have in synastry chart , this is cafeastrology interpretation : Romantic feelings are strong and you are very compatible sexually. It is unlikely that the feeling of being "in love" will ever fade completely, and it is likely that you will both see each other as someone very special and dear to you throughout your lives. Your relationship is definitely warm and romantic and very fulfilling for both of you. The Venus person is enthralled with the Mars person's sexuality and "body ego", and the Mars person is turned on by the Venus person's loving nature. Appreciation on both a romantic and sexual nature is a real part of your relationship, and there is an easygoing energy between the two of you that is both long-lasting and positive.

In your composite chart You have Sun conjunct Venus and this aspect brings adoring love and it's one of the best aspects to have , i heard it means "true love" but it is certainly a good aspect to have .

I am still a beginner but i hope a most experienced astrology on this forum gives you a detailed reading , good luck

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pocaloca
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posted February 15, 2014 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocaloca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh ahahah..Venus opposes Pluto...OBSESSION no wander you are so hot about her ..

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Orange
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posted February 15, 2014 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it is a very hot synastry and a Composite.
You should totaly pursue it, if possible. You are each obsessed with the other. Each of your Plutos opposes the other Venus - ultra hot! Irresistible. Obsessive. Your Pluto also aspects her Mars on top of it. A Mars/ Venus trine adds to the sexy fuel. Her Venus/Jupiter trines your Sun - so sweet. your Venus sextille her Sun and trine Moon, again - very nice. Uranus aspects makes it electric ( but unpredictable ). The two stelliums opposing each other makes it interesring.
The Composite chart is fantastic .

The verdict is - it's love and lust mixed in a magic pot. If you dare take a sip.

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posted February 15, 2014 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello TrueLoveWaits! Welcome to LL

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TrueLoveWaits
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posted February 15, 2014 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueLoveWaits     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
I think it is a very hot synastry and a Composite.
You should totaly pursue it, if possible. You are each obsessed with the other. Each of your Plutos opposes the other Venus - ultra hot! Irresistible. Obsessive. Your Pluto also aspects her Mars on top of it. A Mars/ Venus trine adds to the sexy fuel. Her Venus/Jupiter trines your Sun - so sweet. your Venus sextille her Sun and trine Moon, again - very nice. Uranus aspects makes it electric ( but unpredictable ). The two stelliums opposing each other makes it interesring.
The Composite chart is fantastic .

The verdict is - it's love and lust mixed in a magic pot. If you dare take a sip.



Ahhhhh, you have no idea what joy you've bestowed on me with this interpretation. I'm not so sure I dare to take a sip, though. We have worked together several times now and she hasn't really given me any concrete indication that she is attracted to me. I also hear that although Venus/Pluto is explosively hot, that it can also indicate one sided attraction.

We seem to have an easier time if others are around... she'll laugh at my silly jokes, and engage with me more, but when we are alone it is so, so awkward.

I think about her all the time, plodding my next move...

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TrueLoveWaits
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posted February 15, 2014 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueLoveWaits     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Virgo1992:
Hi ,

In your synastry chart i see Her Venus trine your mars , this is a very good aspect to have in synastry chart , this is cafeastrology interpretation : Romantic feelings are strong and you are very compatible sexually. It is unlikely that the feeling of being "in love" will ever fade completely, and it is likely that you will both see each other as someone very special and dear to you throughout your lives. Your relationship is definitely warm and romantic and very fulfilling for both of you. The Venus person is enthralled with the Mars person's sexuality and "body ego", and the Mars person is turned on by the Venus person's loving nature. Appreciation on both a romantic and sexual nature is a real part of your relationship, and there is an easygoing energy between the two of you that is both long-lasting and positive.

In your composite chart You have Sun conjunct Venus and this aspect brings adoring love and it's one of the best aspects to have , i heard it means "true love" but it is certainly a good aspect to have .

I am still a beginner but i hope a most experienced astrology on this forum gives you a detailed reading , good luck


Thank you so much for this reading, Virgo. I hadn't even noticed the Venus/Mars contact. Upon some closer inspection I notice a lot of contacts between us in synastry that I overlooked... Sun/Venus, Moon/Venus, Venus/Mars, Venus/Pluto (twice!), and Sun/Mercury. We are both being pretty shy around each other, so perhaps it's the Pluto that's keeping both of us a little more secretive, albeit OBSESSIVE about our feelings.

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TrueLoveWaits
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posted February 15, 2014 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueLoveWaits     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I must admit I'm a little sad RunAroundScreaming hasn't made her cameo appearance. She's the expert on love stelliums (Sun/Mercury/Venus conjunctions in composites), and in my composite it seems our love stellium contacts Pluto... a LOT. I wonder if that would be very difficult on both of us and how.

RUN AROUND SCREAMING WHERE ARE YOUUUUUUUUU lol

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TrueLoveWaits
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posted February 17, 2014 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueLoveWaits     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thought I'd update y'all on the progress of the courting... She volunteers at the place I work at, and I knew she was going into a shift today. I sneakily left a bunch of candies and and mix cd's for the volunteers... but more pointedly, a mix cd with love songs and some vegan chocolate bars (she's lactose intolerant). She's texted me saying "OMG You are the cutest!! Thank you so much for all the Valentine's love. You're amazing " We typically do not text each other otherwise, so I was super pleased to get a message let alone one of her telling me I'm CUTE

If that's not Venus/Mars in action right now I don't know WHAT is. It won't stop the obsessing and intense fantasizing I've been doing for the last 3 days though lol.

I'm a Venus in Taurus, and she's a Venus in Aries.. I like to take these things slowly and deliberately so it will be really interesting to see how this all plays out!

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Orange
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posted February 17, 2014 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ooh trust me, she totaly digs you. Both your synastry and the Composite is hot and heavy

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TrueLoveWaits
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posted February 17, 2014 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueLoveWaits     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
ooh trust me, she totaly digs you. Both your synastry and the Composite is hot and heavy

Orange, thank you. I hope this goes somewhere. My poor Moon in Cancer can't take anymore emotional upheaval... I can't seem to really focus, concentrate, sleep well or even want to eat the past few days, she's on my mind 24/7. I feel like I'm going crazy.

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TrueLoveWaits
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posted February 20, 2014 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueLoveWaits     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I hate to break it to y'all but ASTROLOGY WAS JUST PLAIN WRONG ON THIS ONE.

Despite the fact that we had good synastry (venus opp pluto "double whammy," venus trine mars) and a good composite with purported "love at first sight" aspects (sun opp pluto plus love stellium)...it appears she is not actually interested in me after all. I texted her yesterday morning with a flirty text, asking when I'd have the pleasure of seeing her again. No reply, and I'm quite certain I'm not going to get one either. Friends have said to me "maybe her phone died," or "maybe she was busy," believe me I'm sure she wasn't too busy to see a text within a 24 hour span.

I'm a little thrown and discouraged by the lack of response. I thought after calling me "the cutest" and "amazing" that it was safe to assume she was attracted to me. Not so, apparently... It's funny how drawn I felt to her. I remember the first time we met, it was in the middle of a party at a bar, and she threw her arms around me and said hello. She didn't even know me. Somehow I convinced myself that was meaningful. The first time I ever saw her at work, I walked into the room and felt the blood rush to my face because I felt so shy with her looking at me. I could barely make any eye contact, but I wanted to be close to her at the same time.

Just goes to show you that synastry and composites really don't dictate the hard truth - sometimes it just doesn't work out. i know she recently got out of a serious relationship, so it could be that she's just not ready. Either way I think I'm done putting myself out there... that was just embarrassing. Or maybe I'm giving up too soon? Some part of me thinks I should wait for her and see what happens. The other part of me says move on, and stop trying.

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lvASTRO
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posted February 20, 2014 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lvASTRO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You made your bold move... Now wait. The ball is in her court. Anything could happen. Stay calm, stay cool. She could be over-analyzing, freaking out, any number of things.

If all else, you tried.

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Venusincap89
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posted February 20, 2014 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am pretty sure too that she is very attracted to you

I assume she is resisting because she is thinking "oh but we work together"..

I assume so because, I was in a pretty much same position as you are in right now

in my case, I asked the girl out on a date for about.. 3 times within a year (no texting, no phone call)
And this girl started coming onto me only after she left to work elsewhere
I assume that she too, will give you green signals, once the obstacles are cleared out?

I must say though, it's really too bad you texted instead of talking to her face to face.. you would have gotten much better read of the situation

Also, texting kills challenge (I can give probably 10 critical reasons why it's bad but biggest problem is that it gives sense of instant gratification, which ultimately leads to taking things for granted)
and let me assure you, beautiful women are really tired of easy/challenge-less men (well I think at least we can all agree that venus in aries women love challenge)

I ve seen too many relationships fail all thanks to texting

*Be a challenge by becoming less available (example - texts and phone calls are only used to make a date, conversations are made face to face)
And accept incomings/or don't blow her off when she's coming onto you (unless she calls you out for a date on that very same day - she will eventually think you are too available)

If you do that, I am certain that you will attract any women regardless of her signs

oh but since she has her venus in aries
making old female coworkers laugh (not in flirty way but friendly) front of her would really give you good points I think hehe

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posted February 20, 2014 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is your VENUS opposite her PLUTO, or is that quindecile? Either way, it's intense.

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posted February 20, 2014 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, aspects can be useful, TLW (and is that off the Radiohead song? I love that group); but the truth is that houses mean everything. Houses and rulers.

We can give you basic potential of what things could play out - base energies - but without her birth time, and knowing houses and rulers - I can't tell you HOW they might.

For example:

That same VENUS-PLUTO aspect could behave differently depending upon which houses it's affecting. If across the ASC/DSC, that's a very potent romantic linkage. VENUS would be inextricably drawn to PLUTO's intensity; if ASC-VENUS is connecting to a 7H-PLUTO, it'd again apply to relationships and romance. If that VENUS is 12H, that PLUTO may bring it out of hiding, making a VERY intense, seductive experience.

But let's say it's across the 3H/9H axis, which is intellectual, spiritual, philosophical, and sibling-related. Here we learn and grow; evolve. It's GEM and SAG's domains.

A 3H VENUS in hard aspect to a 9H PLUTO could be a powerful mentor-apprentice sort of relationship, with VENUS eager to learn from the wise 9H PLUTO. In the reverse, 3H PLUTO is a capable, intense student who's learning patience and otherwordliness from 9H VENUS.

See the difference?

In certain houses, across specific axes, it operates in particular ways. If ASC/DSC, it's a Self versus Others thing; this is often relationships, commitments, of such ilk.

2H/8H deals with possessions, possessiveness, value, sex, death, and transformation. It's also VENUS (2H/TAU) and PLUTO's (8H/SCO) natural placements. If placed here, it's going to up that already present intensity.

The 3H/9H deals with, as you've seen, learning, early life, communication, how we think, and siblings.

4H/10H / IC/MC is our private versus public self. Our home versus work. Family versus career and the world at large. It's a bigger stage. VENUS-PLUTO here may create sweeping change regarding those areas, for better or worse.

5H/11H is a classic romantic placement. Even though the 11H is 'friends zone', when you've got a potentially very sexy aspect, it's not just friendly. Plus, 5H is romance, casual sex, and what we do for fun. VENUS-PLUTO here will be sexy, romantic, and playful, too. (This is where stuff could get a bit kinky, if other factors are present.)

Lastly, 6H/12H.

This axis gets a bad rap. It's the karma / dharma thing; the 12H is secretive, dealing with our hidden fears, stuff we don't express, and might even be ashamed of, not sure how to deal with it. Whenever someone's anything activates the 12H, the individual with the House has got to be prepared for the intense probing that results. It digs in deep. Like being investigated - psychologically, emotionally, even spiritually audited.

The 6H deals with service, work, our daily life, health and pets.

So, when looking at synastry, it's the 12H involvement which becomes the typical focus. PLUTO-VENUS is deep, penetrating, and sexy here. Along the axis of secrets, hidden fears and our daily existence, many see it in the synastries of those with something to hide: secret affairs, and the like. (If NEP is involved, that can also be deception and losses.) But when it doesn't, it's a life-altering relationship which guts many outworn patterns and brings about transformative spiritual change and evolution. But it takes someone willing to change! An unevolved VENUS can shut down against PLUTO along this axis, being too scared to change.

VENUS is always a little nervous when in hard aspect to PLUTO. It's the moth to the flame. Compulsive attraction on deep levels.

So. What all the above means is that we can give you a very basic sketch of potentials present. But HOW they'll ultimately play out obviously depends upon WHERE they're happening, in my experience.

Oh, and free-will. 😉

Good luck!

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posted February 20, 2014 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, dear. Texting as a first move. Hmm.

Besides, 'when will I have the pleasure of seeing you again?'. You work together, yes? Has she responded actively to your texts before? She may've not been sure what you were even asking. To suddenly switch from coworker to potential dater mode is ... tricky.

And Merc's retro. That could hit you both in a bigger way than you know.

Hang on. It's going through your 3H? Oh, jeez. Better double, triple, quadruple-check your communications. Expect crap went wrong before any presumptions all was received.

Your 3R is URA on the ASC. I'm stunned that it's not been wreaking more havoc than communications. Honestly, YOU may be misperceived and misunderstood, with Merc Wretch in your 3H, with your 3R being URA on your natal ASC.

Oh, and texting? Not with Merc Wretch!

Give it some time. Regroup, and approach things once it goes direct.

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posted February 20, 2014 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TrueLoveWaits:
Thought I'd update y'all on the progress of the courting... She volunteers at the place I work at, and I knew she was going into a shift today. I sneakily left a bunch of candies and and mix cd's for the volunteers... but more pointedly, a mix cd with love songs and some vegan chocolate bars (she's lactose intolerant). She's texted me saying "OMG You are the cutest!! Thank you so much for all the Valentine's love. You're amazing " We typically do not text each other otherwise, so I was super pleased to get a message let alone one of her telling me I'm CUTE

If that's not Venus/Mars in action right now I don't know WHAT is. It won't stop the obsessing and intense fantasizing I've been doing for the last 3 days though lol.

I'm a Venus in Taurus, and she's a Venus in Aries.. I like to take these things slowly and deliberately so it will be really interesting to see how this all plays out!


Also, if you're feeling an intense sexual draw, (and, be honest) sexually obsessing, feeling the need to be physical and intimate - check if your PRIAPUS isn't being activated. That's h22. It almost always is.

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posted February 20, 2014 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@IndigoDirae, one of the most informative responses I've ever read here. The author is very lucky

also, just a small note from me, Composite is only for people who already date, not for crushes, isn't it o.O

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TrueLoveWaits
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posted February 20, 2014 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueLoveWaits     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Venusincap89:
I am pretty sure too that she is very attracted to you

I assume she is resisting because she is thinking "oh but we work together"..

I assume so because, I was in a pretty much same position as you are in right now

in my case, I asked the girl out on a date for about.. 3 times within a year (no texting, no phone call)
And this girl started coming onto me only after she left to work elsewhere
I assume that she too, will give you green signals, once the obstacles are cleared out?

I must say though, it's really too bad you texted instead of talking to her face to face.. you would have gotten much better read of the situation

Also, texting kills challenge (I can give probably 10 critical reasons why it's bad but biggest problem is that it gives sense of instant gratification, which ultimately leads to taking things for granted)
and let me assure you, beautiful women are really tired of easy/challenge-less men (well I think at least we can all agree that venus in aries women love challenge)

I ve seen too many relationships fail all thanks to texting

*Be a challenge by becoming less available (example - texts and phone calls are only used to make a date, conversations are made face to face)
And accept incomings/or don't blow her off when she's coming onto you (unless she calls you out for a date on that very same day - she will eventually think you are too available)

If you do that, I am certain that you will attract any women regardless of her signs

oh but since she has her venus in aries
making old female coworkers laugh (not in flirty way but friendly) front of her would really give you good points I think hehe


Thank you for the feedback - I have to reveal, though, that I am actually a gay woman. And yeah, she is also gay. LOL I work in a very LGBT-friendly environment. BUt you're right, texting is so hard to read.. in person, we seem to communicate well and have great chemistry. And you are probably super right.. it is really hard to show overt interest in a situation where you work with the other person. It's probably a little unfair for her to be in that position, really.

Re: scarcity strategies... to be honest, I would rather not play games. I'm too neurotic for that **** !

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posted February 20, 2014 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueLoveWaits     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Is your VENUS opposite her PLUTO, or is that quindecile? Either way, it's intense.

In synastry, it's "double whammy" (am i saying that right?) venus opposite pluto.

In composite, it's venus opposite pluto.

I'm not convinced the feeling is mutual..

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TrueLoveWaits
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posted February 20, 2014 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueLoveWaits     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Also, aspects can be useful, TLW (and is that off the Radiohead song? I love that group); but the truth is that houses mean everything. Houses and rulers.

We can give you basic potential of what things could play out - base energies - but without her birth time, and knowing houses and rulers - I can't tell you HOW they might.

For example:

That same VENUS-PLUTO aspect could behave differently depending upon which houses it's affecting. If across the ASC/DSC, that's a very potent romantic linkage. VENUS would be inextricably drawn to PLUTO's intensity; if ASC-VENUS is connecting to a 7H-PLUTO, it'd again apply to relationships and romance. If that VENUS is 12H, that PLUTO may bring it out of hiding, making a VERY intense, seductive experience.

But let's say it's across the 3H/9H axis, which is intellectual, spiritual, philosophical, and sibling-related. Here we learn and grow; evolve. It's GEM and SAG's domains.

A 3H VENUS in hard aspect to a 9H PLUTO could be a powerful mentor-apprentice sort of relationship, with VENUS eager to learn from the wise 9H PLUTO. In the reverse, 3H PLUTO is a capable, intense student who's learning patience and otherwordliness from 9H VENUS.

See the difference?

In certain houses, across specific axes, it operates in particular ways. If ASC/DSC, it's a Self versus Others thing; this is often relationships, commitments, of such ilk.

2H/8H deals with possessions, possessiveness, value, sex, death, and transformation. It's also VENUS (2H/TAU) and PLUTO's (8H/SCO) natural placements. If placed here, it's going to up that already present intensity.

The 3H/9H deals with, as you've seen, learning, early life, communication, how we think, and siblings.

4H/10H / IC/MC is our private versus public self. Our home versus work. Family versus career and the world at large. It's a bigger stage. VENUS-PLUTO here may create sweeping change regarding those areas, for better or worse.

5H/11H is a classic romantic placement. Even though the 11H is 'friends zone', when you've got a potentially very sexy aspect, it's not just friendly. Plus, 5H is romance, casual sex, and what we do for fun. VENUS-PLUTO here will be sexy, romantic, and playful, too. (This is where stuff could get a bit kinky, if other factors are present.)

Lastly, 6H/12H.

This axis gets a bad rap. It's the karma / dharma thing; the 12H is secretive, dealing with our hidden fears, stuff we don't express, and might even be ashamed of, not sure how to deal with it. Whenever someone's anything activates the 12H, the individual with the House has got to be prepared for the intense probing that results. It digs in deep. Like being investigated - psychologically, emotionally, even spiritually audited.

The 6H deals with service, work, our daily life, health and pets.

So, when looking at synastry, it's the 12H involvement which becomes the typical focus. PLUTO-VENUS is deep, penetrating, and sexy here. Along the axis of secrets, hidden fears and our daily existence, many see it in the synastries of those with something to hide: secret affairs, and the like. (If NEP is involved, that can also be deception and losses.) But when it doesn't, it's a life-altering relationship which guts many outworn patterns and brings about transformative spiritual change and evolution. But it takes someone willing to change! An unevolved VENUS can shut down against PLUTO along this axis, being too scared to change.

VENUS is always a little nervous when in hard aspect to PLUTO. It's the moth to the flame. Compulsive attraction on deep levels.

So. What all the above means is that we can give you a very basic sketch of potentials present. But HOW they'll ultimately play out obviously depends upon WHERE they're happening, in my experience.

Oh, and free-will. 😉

Good luck!


At this point I'm thinking Free Will is definitely at play at the moment... and you know, it's a darn shame I don't have her birth time because it does look like house placements are crucial. Ah well. Some things are better left a mystery, I suppose...

p.s. yes my name is a ref to the radiohead song good catch heh.

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