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Topic: Moon in 1st = Aries or Cancer influence?
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Chiemi Moderator Posts: 2037 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted February 21, 2014 01:30 PM
I've been wondering about this alot quite recently, and I still can't wrap my mind around the idea that having a 1st house moon gives you a "Cancerian" moon?Imo, wouldn't it give more of an Arian vibe? For example, I've read that if someone has Venus in 8th, then they have a Scorpio vibe/flavor to their Venus and how the relate to others, but I've never read that having an 8th house Venus is like having Pluto in Libra. Anyone care to explain? I think that if anything, if someone has a moon placement in the 4th or conjunct the IC then that gives a Cancer vibe more-so than a 1st house moon.
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Lavender CrystalSwan unregistered
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posted February 21, 2014 01:51 PM
The 1st house is a very personal house. It has to do with your identity, your physical vessel. Someone with Moon in the 1st house will tend to have Lunar qualities as a part of their identity. Others will notice that about them, about the way they "appear" and carry themselves. Same goes for any planet in the 1st house, it will be a part of your personal makeup. I know someone with Moon in the 1st house and they indeed appear very Cancerian; they are caring, nurturing, sensitive, motherly and emotional. Its interesting because they have a preponderance of earth in their charts rather than water, but because their Moon is in their 1st, those lunar qualities are brought out to the surface and emphasized. But then again, that 1st house influence does give them that Aries drive and energy. So I'd say its both, Aries and Cancer influence. IP: Logged |
Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 849 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
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posted February 21, 2014 02:01 PM
I have moon and saturn in first house and everywhere i have found information it just says it brings out the energy of the ruler of the planet thats in the 1st house i do think it would make sense that planets in the 1st should have an aries energy about them but im not 100% sure IP: Logged |
Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 849 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
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posted February 21, 2014 05:40 PM
I think you are right about having aries energy to the planets in the first house because i checked out the walter pullen simple chart dileanation and it says i have 8% aries in my chart yet i have no planets or anything in aries so it must come from my 2 planets in the first house and aries is ranked higher at 4 compared to cancer ranked at 8 IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 2442 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted February 21, 2014 05:44 PM
I have actual Moon in Cancer in the first house yet I don't find myself Cancerian at all. I don't see how I'm Cancerian in any way. I am not that emotional or clingy, but I have a strong bond with my past. That's the only Cancerian thing about me.------------------ Gemini Ascendant Sun in Leo Moon in Cancer Mercury in Virgo Venus in Virgo Mars in Libra "You were born a lion. Don't die a sheep." ~ Leos ♌️ IP: Logged |
Chiemi Moderator Posts: 2037 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted February 21, 2014 06:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan: The 1st house is a very personal house. It has to do with your identity, your physical vessel. Someone with Moon in the 1st house will tend to have Lunar qualities as a part of their identity. Others will notice that about them, about the way they "appear" and carry themselves. Same goes for any planet in the 1st house, it will be a part of your personal makeup. I know someone with Moon in the 1st house and they indeed appear very Cancerian; they are caring, nurturing, sensitive, motherly and emotional. Its interesting because they have a preponderance of earth in their charts rather than water, but because their Moon is in their 1st, those lunar qualities are brought out to the surface and emphasized. But then again, that 1st house influence does give them that Aries drive and energy. So I'd say its both, Aries and Cancer influence.
Hmm, I wonder why it's interpreted that way only for the 1st house? From what I've noticed, when a planet falls in any other house, it is given the influence of the traditional ruler of that house (i.e. my sun in 4th conjunct IC gives my sun Cancer qualities). Does she have any 4th house placements? My Asc is in Cancer but my Moon is Leo and I always attributed my Lunarian look to the sign of my Asc. IP: Logged |
Chiemi Moderator Posts: 2037 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted February 21, 2014 06:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by Supreme cT: I think you are right about having aries energy to the planets in the first house because i checked out the walter pullen simple chart dileanation and it says i have 8% aries in my chart yet i have no planets or anything in aries so it must come from my 2 planets in the first house and aries is ranked higher at 4 compared to cancer ranked at 8
Same here 27.4% of my chart is fire according to mine but my only placements in fire are my Leo moon and Sagittarius Jupiter. But... I have moon in 1st, Mars/Jupiter/Pluto in 5th, and Saturn in 9th so with a planet in every traditional fire house, I give off a more fiery vibe.
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Chiemi Moderator Posts: 2037 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted February 21, 2014 06:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen: I have actual Moon in Cancer in the first house yet I don't find myself Cancerian at all. I don't see how I'm Cancerian in any way. I am not that emotional or clingy, but I have a strong bond with my past. That's the only Cancerian thing about me.
Do you have any 4th house placements or planets conjunct your IC?
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Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 2442 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted February 21, 2014 06:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Chiemi: Do you have any 4th house placements or planets conjunct your IC?
I think I have Mars in exact conjunction with my IC. ------------------ Gemini Ascendant Sun in Leo Moon in Cancer Mercury in Virgo Venus in Virgo Mars in Libra "You were born a lion. Don't die a sheep." ~ Leos ♌️ IP: Logged |
moonstruck87 Knowflake Posts: 2233 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted February 21, 2014 06:44 PM
my mom has moon in 1st house - and that moon is sagittarius - She is VERY cancerianShe is feisty and has a temper too and sometimes explodes but overall she is maternal, moody, emotional and just very motherly of not only us kids but her friends and anyone she comes across - she also lacks trust which I find cancerian IP: Logged |
Chiemi Moderator Posts: 2037 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted February 21, 2014 07:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen: I think I have Mars in exact conjunction with my IC.
Not to come off as a creep, but I saw in your Flirty but Choosy thread that you have NN in 4th conjunct IC and your Venus is conjunct your IC as well so that can definitely explain why you have a strong bond with your past. I too have NN in 4th and my Venus and Mercury is in my 4th but they aren't conjunct the IC. However, I feel the same way. I do have Sun in 4th conjunct my IC as well.
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Chiemi Moderator Posts: 2037 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted February 21, 2014 07:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by moonstruck87: my mom has moon in 1st house - and that moon is sagittarius - She is VERY cancerianShe is feisty and has a temper too and sometimes explodes but overall she is maternal, moody, emotional and just very motherly of not only us kids but her friends and anyone she comes across - she also lacks trust which I find cancerian
What is going on in her 4th house? Does she have any planets in 4th or conjunct the IC? What is her 4th house ruler and what aspects does she have to her moon?
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moonstruck87 Knowflake Posts: 2233 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted February 21, 2014 07:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Chiemi: What is going on in her 4th house? Does she have any planets in 4th or conjunct the IC? What is her 4th house ruler and what aspects does she have to her moon?
4h ruler is Aries no planets there & moon actually tribes her mars in Leo in 9h
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Chiemi Moderator Posts: 2037 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted February 21, 2014 08:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by moonstruck87: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Chiemi: [b] What is going on in her 4th house? Does she have any planets in 4th or conjunct the IC? What is her 4th house ruler and what aspects does she have to her moon?
4h ruler is Aries no planets there & moon actually tribes her mars in Leo in 9h[/B][/QUOTE]Hmm, what about her NN? I have moon square Mars too and my 1st house ruler is in the 1st so maybe that emphasizes some Arian tendencies in my moon IP: Logged |
summerlite Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted February 21, 2014 09:07 PM
Moon in 1st will make you somewhat like a Aries Moon. If Moon conjunct ASC, the Moon vibe rubs off you more. You will come off as more personable. I don't know about the erratic/moody side of it though.------------------ http://astrolofting.blogspot.com IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 2538 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted February 21, 2014 09:10 PM
Cancerian, but not Aries. Physically I've noticed they have typical Cancer body types; bony, bow-leg, or soft and round. IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan unregistered
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posted February 21, 2014 09:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Chiemi: Hmm, I wonder why it's interpreted that way only for the 1st house? From what I've noticed, when a planet falls in any other house, it is given the influence of the traditional ruler of that house (i.e. my sun in 4th conjunct IC gives my sun Cancer qualities).Does she have any 4th house placements? My Asc is in Cancer but my Moon is Leo and I always attributed my Lunarian look to the sign of my Asc.
I guess because the 1st house is one of the "big 3" that make up your personality. Its how you show yourself to the world. He doesn't have any 4th house placements, but his IC ruler is Jupiter in Cancer, though I doubt that would be enough to give him that Cancerian vibe. IP: Logged |
Celestica Knowflake Posts: 270 From: Los Angeles, California Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 21, 2014 09:53 PM
It would give your personality a Cancer-tone but the way you express your emotions will be similar to an Aries moon, if that makes any sense.IP: Logged |
Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 849 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
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posted February 21, 2014 10:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Celestica: It would give your personality a Cancer-tone but the way you express your emotions will be similar to an Aries moon, if that makes any sense.
Ohhhhhhh i see what you mean there that does ring true for me i do have a cancer kind of caring personality but i
dont express myself like that im loud and talk fast when it comes to expressing my emotions and im pretty impulsive when it comes to things that i want
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Celestica Knowflake Posts: 270 From: Los Angeles, California Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 21, 2014 10:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Supreme cT: Ohhhhhhh i see what you mean there that does ring true for me i do have a cancer kind of caring personality but i dont express myself like that im loud and talk fast when it comes to expressing my emotions and im pretty impulsive when it comes to things that i want
Exactly! c: The planet flavors the personality but the house flavors the planet's mode of expression. IP: Logged |
Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 849 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
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posted February 21, 2014 11:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Celestica: Exactly! c: The planet flavors the personality but the house flavors the planet's mode of expression.
Yes! I finally got an answer thats right lol this has been bugging me for a long time thank you! IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 2442 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted February 21, 2014 11:30 PM
OOPS. I totally misinterpreted my own chart. She's right. I got my Venus conjuct my IC (and NN) instead of Mars. This could totally explain my strong connection with the past. But it still doesn't explain why I don't act Cancerian at all.
quote: Originally posted by Chiemi: Not to come off as a creep, but I saw in your Flirty but Choosy thread that you have NN in 4th conjunct IC and your Venus is conjunct your IC as well so that can definitely explain why you have a strong bond with your past. I too have NN in 4th and my Venus and Mercury is in my 4th but they aren't conjunct the IC. However, I feel the same way. I do have Sun in 4th conjunct my IC as well.
------------------ Gemini Ascendant Sun in Leo Moon in Cancer Mercury in Virgo Venus in Virgo Mars in Libra "You were born a lion. Don't die a sheep." ~ Leos ♌️ IP: Logged |
Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 849 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
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posted February 22, 2014 12:35 AM
One more thing i found to help validate that having a planet in the first house really does give you arian energy is the fact that i put my birth info in to the walter pullen chart again but gave a fake time so that i would have 0 planets in my first house and when i did that it changed my 8% aries ranked 4 in my chart to 1.0% aries ranked 12 so that shows planet placement in 1st has an effect on the strength of your aries energy IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 10490 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 22, 2014 01:53 AM
I have Moon right on the Ascendant, and it makes me very sensitive.I am also very much upfront and it is obvious who I am and what I stand for, Earth Mother all the way... Definitely a woman, as well...
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the89freespirit Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 22, 2014 02:16 PM
Anything in the 1st house is going to be put right out there, no holds barred. This is sort of Aries-like, but it all depends on the planets. You're going to put the energy of that planet "right out there", as well as the energy of the sign. So, having a Virgo Moon in the 1st house will mean that you will come off as very Lunar as well as very Virgoan. This is in a very straightforward, almost unfiltered way, like Aries. But, I don't think that it's going to make you Aries-like. More than any other house, the planet and the sign have the final say-so in the 1st house because it's all about identify. So, you'll identify strongly with those energies. ------------------ Check out My Astrology Blog: http://astroarena12.blogspot.com IP: Logged |