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NeptunianSag
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posted February 22, 2014 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't really understand the role of Lilith in the chart. But I'm guessing it's like your a siren, a magnet, but the person who sees you sees you as a dangerous threat while at the same time being attracted to you. My Lilith in Pisces conjunct my asc and trine my Venus, squaring my mercury. I guess some men, I don't know how they see me, but sometimes I get the feel they are scared but mesmerised by me. (as they should be mwhahah) men sometimes intentionally treat me differently to other girls, like, they will talk to other women nicely, but with me they will play games and make things not nice. My Lilith is in the 5th house.

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posted February 22, 2014 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know why people romanticize Lilith, she is anything but that. The reason she is the way she is, is because she has been abused and misused sexually.

This is the girl who thought she made a real connection with a potential significant other only to find out he wants her for a booty-call. She's mad that she didn't figure it out sooner and disgusted that he would think so little of her.

Strong Lilith types fight back, they also become a little jaded or cynical. Men no longer take advantage or make her feel bad about a sexual encounter and if there is a sexual relationship, it's on her terms.

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posted February 22, 2014 06:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^
yeah a little too romanticized.
Being a siren kinda goes against the myth...

She's opp my venus/asc.

I feel that placement is why I can be so icy.
She's a bad bish though and gets that respect or else.

She feels super cold and uninviting like not receptive at all..
I mean it would probably suck if you were not physically attractive and had prominent lilith lol.

Some of my female friends love having me around so I can repel at all the creeps lurking at a party with my powers of detraction.. I can make things so uncomfortable for people.

I kinda like that though..
how boring is it to be approachable..
Like every other person at a party is charming and approachable..
I like people who don't really care about being nice and charming to others faces.
they say and do whatever they want.

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posted February 22, 2014 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lilith isnt so much of a siren as she is a example of divine feminine energy not being bound to only one of the archetypes of only the mother, ***** , the old woman etc. She encompasses all of them. The romanticized interpretation probably comes from the placement and sign of your lilith I.e the 5th house and in pisces.

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posted February 22, 2014 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
^
yeah a little too romanticized.
Being a siren kinda goes against the myth...

She's opp my venus/asc.

I feel that placement is why I can be so icy.
She's a bad bish though and gets that respect or else.

She feels super cold and uninviting like not receptive at all..
I mean it would probably suck if you were not physically attractive and had prominent lilith lol.

Some of my female friends love having me around so I can repel at all the creeps lurking at a party with my powers of detraction.. I can make things so uncomfortable for people.

I kinda like that though..
how boring is it to be approachable..
Like every other person at a party is charming and approachable..
I like people who don't really care about being nice and charming to others faces.
they say and do whatever they want.


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posted February 22, 2014 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which lilith are you talking about? If it conjuncts your ASC, it can't be in 5H.

Lilith is untamed feminine energy. You come off stronger than other women, as someone who can't be tamed.

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posted February 22, 2014 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like there are too many lilith objects in astrology and the fact that they all represent different facets of the lilith in mythology gets people very confused

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posted February 23, 2014 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Celestica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arcturiann:
I feel like there are too many lilith objects in astrology and the fact that they all represent different facets of the lilith in mythology gets people very confused

Agreed, there's like 3 or 4 and everyone just calls them all Lilith for short but I'm pretty sure at least one of them has a full name beyond just Lilith.

ETA: I have Lilith (the one thats just called Lilith on astro.com) in my 4th house forming a grand trine with my Sun, Uranus, and Neptune, no idea what it means

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posted February 23, 2014 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Celestica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay so googling actually clears a lot of the confusion up. There are 3 'Liliths' one is the asteroid, which is the one I believe most people are referring to when they mention Lilith, on astro its listening under addition objects, or you can add it in with the code 1181.

The other two are Black Moon Lilith, and Dark Moon Lilith. From what I can tell the BML is more of a mathematical point? Kind of like the Moon's Nodes, you can view it in your chart with the code h13. Dark Moon Lilith might be an imaginary thing, I can't tell, the code for it is h58. This link has very good information on all three. http://darkstarastrology.com/triple-moon-goddess-lilith-astrology/

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posted February 23, 2014 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a quote from that link that does a little explaining:

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To see the Lilith astrology archetype in terms as a triple goddess makes total sense to me. After I wrote this post I discovered Demetria George had come up with a similar concept about Lilith. Comparing it to the bible story she says: ” The Asteroid Lilith describes the first stage in the mythical journey where she is suppressed, humiliated and flees in a fiery rage to the desolate wilderness. The Dark Moon Lilith depicts the pain of her exile where she plots and executes revenge. The Black Moon Lilith shows how she transmutes her distorted image back into its natural healthy expression” [1]

Asteroid Lillith - humiliation, persecution, rage, escapism.
Dark Moon Lilith - heartache, alienation, desolation, revenge.
Black Moon Lilith - love, forgiveness, emotional balance.

PS the glyph looks like a sickle which reminds me of the Grim Reaper.

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posted February 23, 2014 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Celestica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to spam but nope I'm confused again there is a fourth lilith because when I use astro's Lilith under the additional objects I get a new one even after putting all three codes

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posted February 23, 2014 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe the one most people use represents the lunar apogee, aka the furthest from earth the moon could have been at the time you were born. It is under the list of additional objects (it is NOT an asteroid) and it appears with a glyph that looks like a crescent with a cross underneath it.

I associate this lilith with animal magnetism, subconscious fear/desire, instinct, etc. Think of the moon in the tarot but with a sexier, more scorpio than pisces vibe to it and thats what lilith energy comes off to me. After all, this point represents the DARKEST point where the moon could have been in your chart, IE the furthest away from earth.

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posted February 23, 2014 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Celestica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arcturiann:
I believe the one most people use represents the lunar apogee, aka the furthest from earth the moon could have been at the time you were born. It is under the list of additional objects (it is NOT an asteroid) and it appears with a glyph that looks like a crescent with a cross underneath it.

You're correct, I did a bit of re-reading and the BML on that site is the "true" Lilith while the one on Astro.com is the "mean" Lilith, which explains why they show up as two separate points.

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posted February 23, 2014 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THIS is the glyph that you should be seeing on your chart when you are looking for lilith, at least this is the most represented lilith object in astrology and it represents the lunar apogee.

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posted February 23, 2014 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Celestica:
You're correct, I did a bit of re-reading and the BML on that site is the "true" Lilith while the one on Astro.com is the "mean" Lilith, which explains why they show up as two separate points.

Yeah, much like the lunar nodes, since the path of the moons ecliptic oscilates due to im guessing the earths wobble/axis, there are technically two points that can be calculated as the true or mean path of lilith along the moons ecliptic

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posted February 23, 2014 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have BML on my Aries Moon/Mercury/Venus in the 8th house trine Sag Uranus and asteroid Lilith in the 4th house.

Never got sexually abused nor had issues with men playing games or being afraid of me or trying to just get me for sex. I have pretty good intuition and am instinctive, I can detect red flags early on so I don't get into trouble. Lilith in me can see through people by noticing all the smallest signs.
Also, I'm not a people repelant. :P

Sigh, Lilith is always so sexually viewed, she is more than just about sexuality... She is also about affirmation of your own individuality and not submitting, wants to be acknowledged that she prefers to be alone rather than submitting. Also, she is someone who is in tune with darkness, is not afraid of it, and so she can see through it. She acknowledges that humans have a dark side instead of society repressing any ugly feelings. She is not the nurturing kind though even if she can accept the existence of dark sides, and she also still wouldn't tolerate anyone using their own weaknesses as excuse to be selfish.

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posted November 08, 2015 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poupoupidou     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I don't really understand the role of Lilith in the chart. But I'm guessing it's like your a siren, a magnet, but the person who sees you sees you as a dangerous threat while at the same time being attracted to you.

I have a very different understanding of Lilith. Yes, she can represent the ideal partner of your fantasies and this attraction can be an obsession. However, I think her bad reputation is not necessarily justified. It's calumny. I think she also rules gender equality.

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posted November 08, 2015 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To me, Lilith is raw sexuality. We, all, have it but how we deal with it varies. Some people are comfortable with it. Some are not, but this is the essence of Lilith to me. I could be wrong, too lol

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posted November 08, 2015 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Lilith square Venus. It's like a fight between love and lust. There seems to be some kind of a conflict in my relationships...ugh

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posted November 08, 2015 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marandana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have lilith in 1st house scorpio, I don't fully get it, but sometimes I'm scared of myself.

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posted November 08, 2015 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edit.
I'm usually annoyed and also really happy when these threads get revived...so that I can edit my posts.

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posted January 21, 2016 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shyberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:

I kinda like that though..
how boring is it to be approachable..
Like every other person at a party is charming and approachable..
I like people who don't really care about being nice and charming to others faces.
they say and do whatever they want.


I have to disagree with this one. I know so many rude people, I appreciate when others are nice even if it doesn't benefit them. That "I do whatever I want and no one can tell me otherwise" bit gets old too quickly for me. Some empathy and actual kindness needs to get thrown into the mix...otherwise rebelling just for the sake of rebelling is stupid

To answer OP, Marilyn Monroe had prominent Lilith and had a history of bad relationships and victimization...Don't know if that's Lilith or something else.

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posted January 21, 2016 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see my Lilith placement differently.

I've been victimized in the past by men. I feel creeped out around certain men. I have a vibe that is more like, "Don't mess with me" combined with "I'm never going to let that happen again."

There's nothing sexy about that to me. It's an awful defense mechanism that makes me hyper aware of males.

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posted January 21, 2016 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestskies88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
welp, i have black moon lilith in leo in 12H

anyone want to elaborate what this means?

this is what i found


Black Moon in the 12th House

An invitation to transcend all limitations and dive into cosmic existence.
An invitation to dive into the unconscious and explore the depth of one's nature. Without such in-depth exploration, massive unresolved conflicts may completely block the native's expression in the world, and attract dramatic life circumstances. Black Moon in the 12th is like a wound, but a wound in the highest meaning of the term: a gateway into one's absolute depth. With it comes a challenge: find your essence and be yourself completely, or suffer the slings and arrows of (often self-inflicted) outrageous fortune: karma, samskaras... you name it! Black Moon-Lilith, like a powerful guardian angel, will not allow you to
sleep blissfully through a life in which you could reach awakening.

On the higher mode, this is an extremely powerful position. There is great wisdom and intuitive knowingness of hidden things associated with the Black Moon; and the 12th is the house of final maturity, where all aspects of life are recapitulated and realised in a higher spiritual unity.

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posted January 21, 2016 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe because I have "True" BML in Pisces, conjunct my Sun in H8, I tend to see this more in the way of sexuality, taboos, thoughts that tend to dwell on the macabre a bit (although it's not necessarily where I prefer my thoughts to be)...etc.

I also know straight men who have BML conjunct Sun, and they also tend to be a bit that way. Smoldering (not saying that I am), and very contemplative of deeper spiritual concepts. Powerful energy.

My BML/Sun combo is also trine Uranus, so I think that adds a bit as well.

I also see BML as the potential to heal on a spiritual level.

However, I do have a lot of Pluto and Neptune in my chart, so it's somewhat easy to feel confused about which aspects lend themselves to certain tendencies.

I think that my BML sometimes tends to get watered down by the squares and oppositions that affect my Sun, but then other times not so much.

I do think it has a lot to do with placement/aspects, as with everything else.

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