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moonstruck87
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posted February 23, 2014 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstruck87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where does one look for mental disorders? My brother is bipolar and I was just curious to know

I also have a friend who is diagnosed with bdp - although I haven't seen too much of it from her, she says it's more internal for her than anything

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posted February 24, 2014 01:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aside from aspects is there anything in 12th house?
Like mercury or moon

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Gabby
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posted February 24, 2014 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen a lot of ppl with issue like that having angles that are not balanced!

This would give them too much of certain elements and not enough of others, creating an inability to balance their internal self with their public self.

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posted February 24, 2014 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Celestica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it depends a bit on the mental disorder in question, I know depression is usually seen as a Neptune/Sun thing, most people I know have a square between the two, nervous disorders are more analogous with Mercury, I used to have really bad anxiety disorders and social phobia, I have Mercury square Uranus. Anger issues is probably more Pluto/Mars.

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posted February 24, 2014 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
I've seen a lot of ppl with issue like that having angles that are not balanced!


What do you mean by that?
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Celestica (is your username an allusion to Crystal Castles' song, by any chance?)

One person I knew who was Bipolar - they had Moon conj. Neptune both sq. Sun; Mars sq. Uranus.
The Moon/Neptune conj. was square their Nodes (and SN conjuncted the Sun) - very karmic and dare I say "problematic."


For BPD there are usually signs of emotional intensity and instability - a predominance of Water influence with some Fire (sensitive and expressive); Pluto, Moon and sometimes Chiron (especially in aspect to the Moon - emotional "starvation"). Mars can be prominent in some way (anger issues / irritability / bad temper).


With anxiety there's usually a prominent Mercury energy or Gemini, Virgo, 3rd or 6th house in particluar; Uranus aspects for the restless mind. Water influence for a fearful inclination (Cancer & Scorpio influences seem more prone to anxiety than Pisces).


Overall I think whenever you see challenges in a chart, there's potential for mental / emotional and thus psychological disbalances, but there's no solid way of knowing if it will manifest as a full disorder or just some traits.

Moon and Mercury afflictions play a big role in psychological disorders, though, since they are the main significators for emotions / past conditioning and cognitive functions.

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posted February 24, 2014 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I currently take medication for schizophrenia and it works. I used to have some of the really bad symptoms; withdrawal, spacing out, cutting myself .(schizophrenia is a diverse disorder so the symptoms aren't always the same) but my worst mental state was when I was delusional and convinced myself that I was a time traveler changing the future and that simple things like dying my hair blue and shaving off my eyebrows (which I did) would change fate as we know it. This is called Grandoise Delusional disorder. I have Mercury Square Neptune & Moon Square Saturn in my chart, so that rests my case. Lol


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Moon is Lunatic
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posted February 24, 2014 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon is Lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have psychosis, symptoms of borderline personality disorder and depression. Some anxiety as well.

I'm Cancer Sun/Moon with Capricorn Asc.

Mercury in Leo 7th house

Mercury square Jupiter in 2nd
Mercury square Mars in 8th
Mercury square Saturn in 3rd
Mercury opposition Uranus in 1st
Mercury opposition Neptune in 1st
Mercury trine Pluto in 10th

All these planets my Mercury makes aspects to (expect Pluto) are part of my Grand Cross.

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Eyesofmystery
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posted February 24, 2014 07:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
looks like we're all mental x

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moonstruck87
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posted February 24, 2014 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstruck87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the feed back everyone and the candid responses

Mercury definitely seems to be a big indicator then

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Originally posted by moonstruck87:
Thanks for the feed back everyone and the candid responses

Mercury definitely seems to be a big indicator then


What in your chart makes you so mad then lunatic eyes?x

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Moon is Lunatic
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posted February 24, 2014 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon is Lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Eyesofmystery:
What in your chart makes you so mad then lunatic eyes?x

Are you talking to me? Lol

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moonstruck87
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posted February 24, 2014 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstruck87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Eyesofmystery:
What in your chart makes you so mad then lunatic eyes?x

No, he's talking to me lol

He's a brat

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posted February 24, 2014 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstruck87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Eyesofmystery:
What in your chart makes you so mad then lunatic eyes?x

Idk you have my chart, take a look & let me know ^_^

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posted February 24, 2014 09:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by moonstruck87:
Idk you have my chart, take a look & let me know ^_^

thrown it out along with all the naughty pics x

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posted February 24, 2014 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read that Moon opposite Pluto was one indication of bipolar.

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posted February 24, 2014 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercury89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FruityLlama:
I read that Moon opposite Pluto was one indication of bipolar.


Could be. But not by itself. That aspect isolated only points a controlling mother and women in your life that are controlling. That also means that you loose control your feelings that are very intense.


Mercury/Pluto/Moon can give bipolarity... example: Moon opposition Pluto and both squaring Mercury... and specially if it is Uranus involved.

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posted February 24, 2014 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstruck87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Eyesofmystery:
thrown it out along with all the naughty pics x

In your dreams sweetie pie

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted February 24, 2014 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oppositions and what Mercury and the moon are up to.
Oppositions involving planets over the ascendant to the descendant.

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posted February 24, 2014 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lifefullofwords     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a mood disorder that involves a lot of depression and anxiety as well as some elevated moods. I mostly attribute it to my Moon/Mercury/IC conjunction in Leo. Mercury is in the 3rd and the Moon in the 4th so between that and being conjunct an angle they're both super powerful in my chart. The conjunction is square Pluto, trine Saturn, and sesquiquadrate Jupiter. Mercury is also sesqui. Uranus and quincunx Neptune and my Moon is contraparallel Neptune. Having inner planets contacting all or almost all of my outer planets can be quite difficult, although it does come with some rewards.

Since I also have a Cancer Sun my Sun and Moon are in mutual reception and in my chart they're parallel as well. I've read the combination of fire and water can be unstable several times so I think that plays a role too. My Cancer Sun is in a very close contraparallel with Neptune (tightest aspect in my chart). I identify soooo much with Sun-Neptune descriptions. I love Neptune but I do think having a strong Neptune creates very real issues with escapism.

I also have my Sun opposite my Cap Mars and I think it causes some problems with irritability and anger. It definitely helps that I have my Mars in contained Cap but I still have a horrible temper (I think my Leo planets are partly to blame though).

My ex has borderline personality disorder and a Pluto singleton (only planet in the 1st qudrant) opp. an 8th H Taurus Sun. So I can only assume Pluto plays a massive role in mental illness given that we both have luminaries afflicted by Pluto.

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theunknown
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posted February 24, 2014 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ascendant, Mars, mercury square moon.

It's very tough.

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Randall
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posted February 25, 2014 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good info.

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NeptunianSag
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posted February 26, 2014 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune and Uranus in 3rd retrograde mars in cancer in 9th opposite Neptune and Uranus. Neptune Uranus and mars square my libra ascendant. Mercury squares my Neptune and Uranus. Moon in Virgo 11th inconjunct Saturn in 4th. I have to be careful with anxiety, I'm only anxious in public spaces because I absorb way too much info. I suffered with social anxiety in the past, I sometimes still do but not to extremes.

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summerlite
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posted February 26, 2014 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would think it's a scattered chart with lots of planets in opposition and planets are not conjunct in same sign or house. Inner planets squaring Neptune would cause them to doubt themselves and those opposition aggravates the situation.

Not sure though. Chart examples of real bipolar cases would be valuable.

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moonstruck87
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posted February 26, 2014 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstruck87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by summerlite:
I would think it's a scattered chart with lots of planets in opposition and planets are not conjunct in same sign or house. Inner planets squaring Neptune would cause them to doubt themselves and those opposition aggravates the situation.

Not sure though. Chart examples of real bipolar cases would be valuable.


Yes, I would agree about the chart examples

I look at celebrity charts often and sometimes famous criminals' charts but haven't thought to search for one specifically related to bipolar or another mental issue

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