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Topic: 12th House Mars - Synastry
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MorpHnStorM
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posted March 27, 2014 12:09 AM
  
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sag_stellium
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posted March 27, 2014 12:29 AM
One of my exes has Mars, Sun, Venus in my 12th all conjunct my NN. I was always a bit scared of what he could see in me. I created silly but big situations that made him need to lie to me to keep the peace. Kinda like what DeepFreeze said about his ex. In hindsight, I take the responsibility for my actions. Maybe some people are deceptive in your 12th, but mostly they see things in us that we don't. It's not a true or false contest. If we have to say anything concrete about the 12th, it's that 12th house can not really be factualized. It's an ocean. In its depths are both predators and food for the soul. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 27, 2014 12:45 AM
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Originally posted by sag_stellium:
It's not a true or false contest. If we have to say anything concrete about the 12th, it's that 12th house can not really be factualized. It's an ocean. In its depths are both predators and food for the soul.
Very well put!!
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ash20
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posted March 27, 2014 12:49 AM
I've experienced someones mars & mercury in my 12th and he was very passive aggressive with me. He did talk about me to others but not in a degrading way from what I was told. When it was someones venus in my 12th he cheated and lied to me constantly. IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted March 27, 2014 01:04 AM
Some of the things about 12th house synastry such as "mystical" and "otherworldly" don't really ring true for us. We do share interests such as astrology n some of the occult though. And our story has a few interesting twists. My sun/venus/merc/uranus/neptune is in my s.o's 12th house. When I 1st started to read about 12th house synastry I saw some articles which says that it may lead to cheating. So far, I haven't cheated on him, and not planning to. IP: Logged |
Thefish
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posted March 28, 2014 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
Wow... The twelfth house is so "obscure" and it has all of these "mystical" and "beautiful" adjectives attached to it and let me tell you guys a thing or two.. I decided to find out for myself. I've been in a 4 month relationship with someone that has their mars in my twelfth.Lies, deceit, backstabbing, undermining, back biting, trash talking, meanwhile, in your face they may say I love you... They're stabbing you in the back. What's worse is that once they've been found out, they keep going about it and doing their dirty deeds upfront is not something that THEY are willing to do nor are comfortable doing. Everything from sexual interests that are unknown to you.. Such as masturbation, porn, all of that.. For some reason, they feel a need to do it away from you. Behind your back. And nothing can move their natal planet out of that. I just wanted to post this to flat out give the twelfth house some illumination... Don't delude yourselves. It isn't spiritual. It isn't beautiful. Just flat out, DON'T DO IT!!! They hide anger.. The hold it in and seethe with resentment. They unleash it to everyone around you except you. Don't be surprised if you find yourself the talk of the town and being gossiped about with someone that has their mars in your twelfth. They actively do things to undermine you. Point and simple.
So what you're saying is you are into sweeping generalizations? Synastry is little more involved than the house a planet falls into ... I say this as Mars in 12th conjunct ASC in Capricorn (3 deg 45 mins) who is sextile Ven us and Jupiter in Pisces. For good measure throw in netpune in Sag sextile mercury. I'm about as honest as it gets and that has to do with placements and aspects. All the behaviors you described sound like hard aspects as well as afflicted planets and it also certainly goes beyond Mars in 12. I'd be curious where neptune falls because I'd e willing to bet neptune probably has some hard aspects to either the sun, mercury, mars. IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade
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posted March 28, 2014 02:35 PM
I have Venus and Mars in the 12th house. I don't lie, I don't cheat, I don't snoop, I don't talk **** about other people. And I've never had anyone do that to me either. I've never been in prison. I don't even know anyone that has been arrested for anything never mind being in prison. My mars falls ON my X's asc, depending on how accurate our birth times it could go either way into the 1st or 12th. Our relationship is nothing at all like you describe. IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade
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posted March 28, 2014 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
Sorry to burst your bubble. I'm actually pretty well versed and know my astrology. Hi, I'm c1nd3r. Before posting this, I ask that you take my word for it and take into account that I have done my reading and extensive research. If your mate had mars in your twelfth, believe me, it's not "familiar".. It's delusion.
I love it when people say others are delusional. It seems to be a bit of a theme in the astrology world. 
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Delilah423
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posted March 28, 2014 02:52 PM
Um, I have Mars in the 12th and none of what you said describes me, even on a bad day. I'm pretty sure no one who knows me would agree with your description, either.IP: Logged |
fireopal09
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posted March 28, 2014 03:27 PM
Manfriend of 4+ years has his Leo Sun/Mars in my 12th. If anything he has protected me from hidden enemies. We have had others try to passive aggressively start **** between us. It never works because we both are very Sagittarius/Jupiter influenced, therefore compulsively honest with each other. Believe me, I am too old and too battle scarred to have the luxury of idealism.------------------
Claire
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Liliya
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posted March 28, 2014 03:53 PM
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez, 12th House Mars is NOTTT about cheating, it's about bringing YOUR emotions out. I am a 12th Houser, 12th House Ruler sextiles Neptune, my Sun is in 12th house as well, so does Neptune (also makes aspect to my Venus/Asc) lol My fiance's Mars falls into my 12th House... "Wooo trouble!!!" But you know what??? He brings out the best (and worst) in me, that's' what it is. Do you research before you act so negatively towards others! I am a very closed "mysterious" person. But he is able to open me up, and make me rape myself emotionally. I see and understand myself better. IP: Logged |
summerlite
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posted March 28, 2014 05:37 PM
12H is that weird house that nobody lets you talk about.I don't think people really know what it is about. They think they do, but it's quite the illusion. When the murky water settles, that's when you see the 12H. It can get ugly. ------------------
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greatquincunx
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posted March 28, 2014 11:12 PM
Yeah, that 12th house synastry is bothersome especially with hard aspects. What house does mars rule in your chart? I find the method of viewing synastry like a transit interesting. Also using house to house. Ex: mars rules your 6th and in synastry your partner puts mars in your 12th. 6th from the 6th. Thanks for stopping by  C1NDER IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 28, 2014 11:31 PM
The 12th is murky water and difficult for those who are not used to it.
But if you get two "fish" who have learned to thrive in it, like "catfish" then they know just how to navigate the murky water together. IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade
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posted March 29, 2014 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by summerlite:
12H is that weird house that nobody lets you talk about.I don't think people really know what it is about. They think they do, but it's quite the illusion. When the murky water settles, that's when you see the 12H. It can get ugly.
Oh. There's the illusion/delusion again.  Sure, it can get ugly, it can be beautiful and it can be just normal.
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Violets
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posted March 29, 2014 12:00 PM
Hmm. I think it really depends on the person and how they're using their energy, as well as the synastry. There could be good or bad synastry between two people, but if one or both people are using their energies positively, it becomes less of a big deal (imo).My mother in-law has her Mars in my 12th, and I have felt all of the gossipy, back stabbing, undermining qualities that are talked about by the OP. But my husband's step-mother also has her Mars (and Moon) in my 12th, and I don't feel that way about her, and I never say a negative word about her. I can't say the same about my husband's mother. It's always felt like an unwanted competition for me, although I think it's gotten better. They are very different people, however. I have a difficult Chiron contact with my mother in-law, and a positive NN/Sun conjunction with my husband's step-mom, and Sun/Moon conjunct. My husband and my mom both have their Sun in my 12th, and my husband has his Venus in my 12th as well. My mom is difficult.
But my husband and I have a strong, healthy spiritual connection with each other, and a deep commitment.
We separated briefly during our first year with each other, but I was the one seeing other people, not him. My Neptune is in his 12th. My dad also has his Mars in my 12th, and on paper it would look as though we have terrible synastry together (squares and oppositions from Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury...) but we have a really spiritual connection and get along great. Might be his Pisces Moon conjunct my Sun, both in 8th house (our ACs are conjunct as well). The people I tend to have the best relationships with tend to not be negative in general, so they're using their energy positively.
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Violets
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posted March 29, 2014 12:02 PM
^ Man...I don't know why I always feel compelled to write novels when I post here, but sorry for the long post.
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fireopal09
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posted March 29, 2014 12:13 PM
Violet, I enjoy your novels.:-)------------------
Claire
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Violets
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posted March 29, 2014 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by fireopal09:
Violet, I enjoy your novels.:-)
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LucieLemonade
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posted March 29, 2014 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by fireopal09:
Violet, I enjoy your novels.:-)
I do too. But to make her feel better, they are not novel, just a very big font. It happens to me too and I'm going to stick with the big font story. 
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Violets
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posted March 29, 2014 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I do too. But to make her feel better, they are not novel, just a very big font. It happens to me too and I'm going to stick with the big font story.
Ha ha. Yes, it's just the large font. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 30, 2014 03:19 AM
I was looking for asc in 12th synastry overlay, which I didn't find yet. I did find this which I found to be really interesting.
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StubbornOne
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posted March 30, 2014 07:54 AM
Natal Mars in 12th (apex T-Square), can relate to the anger repression. But not sure about synastry. She had her Mars 2 degree from my ASC but I don't think it counts. Transit Venus was in her 12th though.That said, if someone lies and cheats, he/she will do the same to a different partner without 12th house synastry. People are conditioned to be passive-aggressive these days, even "straightforward" people play games. Plus, your planets can fall into someone's 12th too, but you wouldn't do those things. Cheer up IP: Logged |
Insilver
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posted March 30, 2014 12:37 PM
My love's Mars, Venus, Sun, Merc and Chiron are in my 12th and while it is intense, it's just what I need. He is a sweet spicy soul without a negative bone in his body. Rarely have I heard him say an unkind word about anyone, when he has it's been work-related. We've been together nearly 3 years and it only gets better. If we argue it's about which one of us is sexier. There are so many variables it just doesn't work the same across the board for everyone. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted August 12, 2023 11:09 AM
Nope, it's the house person who does things to the Mars person. I have this with a guy. He talks to me and acts friendly when his girlfriend isn't around. And when she is he ignores me. IP: Logged |
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