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Topic: 12th House Mars - Synastry
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C1ND3R
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posted March 26, 2014 10:13 PM
 
Wow... The twelfth house is so "obscure" and it has all of these "mystical" and "beautiful" adjectives attached to it and let me tell you guys a thing or two.. I decided to find out for myself. I've been in a 4 month relationship with someone that has their mars in my twelfth.Lies, deceit, backstabbing, undermining, back biting, trash talking, meanwhile, in your face they may say I love you... They're stabbing you in the back. What's worse is that once they've been found out, they keep going about it and doing their dirty deeds upfront is not something that THEY are willing to do nor are comfortable doing. Everything from sexual interests that are unknown to you.. Such as masturbation, porn, all of that.. For some reason, they feel a need to do it away from you. Behind your back. And nothing can move their natal planet out of that. I just wanted to post this to flat out give the twelfth house some illumination... Don't delude yourselves. It isn't spiritual. It isn't beautiful. Just flat out, DON'T DO IT!!! They hide anger.. The hold it in and seethe with resentment. They unleash it to everyone around you except you. Don't be surprised if you find yourself the talk of the town and being gossiped about with someone that has their mars in your twelfth. They actively do things to undermine you. Point and simple. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 26, 2014 10:19 PM
As a Mars 12th....
Don't blame that please.
Sign, aspects, synastry all matter. I've been exactly a you describe with someone before and now I'm absolutely not. We both have 12th natally and in synastry which I think helps a lot. It's familiar. It was something with her that made me feel that way. Then when she got upset it made me angry by feeling judged. In the end I just realized that our connection sucked and I wasn't really attracted to her. Which is no ones fault.... It was just not a good match for either of us.
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C1ND3R
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posted March 26, 2014 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
As a Mars 12th....
Don't blame that please.
Sign, aspects, synastry all matter. I've been exactly a you describe with someone before and now I'm absolutely not. We both have 12th natally and in synastry which I think helps a lot. It's familiar. It was something with her that made me feel that way. Then when she got upset it made me angry by feeling judged. In the end I just realized that our connection sucked and I wasn't really attracted to her. Which is no ones fault.... It was just not a good match for either of us.
Sorry to burst your bubble. I'm actually pretty well versed and know my astrology. Hi, I'm c1nd3r. Before posting this, I ask that you take my word for it and take into account that I have done my reading and extensive research. If your mate had mars in your twelfth, believe me, it's not "familiar".. It's delusion. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 26, 2014 10:26 PM
Well....
You can read what you want. But I'm telling you as a person with it... From lifelong experience that it's not that easy as to simply read about it.
My Mars is in her 12th (and mine) and I assure you I'm not anything like that with her. Post the synastry...
My Mars conjuncts her sun and moon, Jupiter
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C1ND3R
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posted March 26, 2014 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
As a Mars 12th....
Don't blame that please.
Sign, aspects, synastry all matter. I've been exactly a you describe with someone before and now I'm absolutely not. We both have 12th natally and in synastry which I think helps a lot. It's familiar. It was something with her that made me feel that way. Then when she got upset it made me angry by feeling judged. In the end I just realized that our connection sucked and I wasn't really attracted to her. Which is no ones fault.... It was just not a good match for either of us.
http://psychologytoday.com/blog/happiness-in-world/201012/how-admit-youre-wrong IP: Logged |
vickymadness
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posted March 26, 2014 10:27 PM
It depends on the planet, some planets -like mars- bring turbulence to the relationship. I felt all my energy was sucked in that synastry. Some planets -like moon or Venus - make the relationship telepathic and extraterrestrial when in 12th house.IP: Logged |
Comatoes
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posted March 26, 2014 10:30 PM
Wait what are we talking about, Mars in 12th or Mars in someone else's 12th?IP: Logged |
C1ND3R
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posted March 26, 2014 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
It depends on the planet, some planets -like mars- bring turbulence to the relationship. I felt all my energy was sucked in that synastry. Some planets -like moon or Venus - make the relationship telepathic and extraterrestrial when in 12th house.
I've experienced those as well... Venus cheats. Or is already involved. Moon is telepathic.. Very in-tune. Just as easily as it can be good... You find out the rest. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted March 26, 2014 10:31 PM
I wouldn't blame all the craziness in your relationship on just one aspect and house. It's the whole thing, all synastry that creates that. I think it helps if both parties have 12th natally because they're more aware of it and not afraid of the darkness that can come with it. The 12th is definitely not for the weak. IP: Logged |
C1ND3R
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posted March 26, 2014 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by Comatoes:
Wait what are we talking about, Mars in 12th or Mars in someone else's 12th?
Mars in someone else's twelfth. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted March 26, 2014 10:32 PM
He and I have 12th house synastry together and natally. He has 12th house mars natally. I loooove 12th house synastry. It's very misunderstood and a lot deeper than what people think. IP: Logged |
C1ND3R
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posted March 26, 2014 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I wouldn't blame all the craziness in [b]your relationship on just one aspect and house. It's the whole thing, all synastry that creates that. I think it helps if both parties have 12th natally because they're more aware of it and not afraid of the darkness that can come with it. The 12th is definitely not for the weak. [/B]
Uh, actually.. The synastry is pretty harmonious. The only thing sticking out like a sore thumb is the mars. I wonder why people are so quick to be skeptical and not trust that perhaps some people do know what they're talking about..? IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted March 26, 2014 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
Uh, actually.. The synastry is pretty harmonious. The only thing sticking out like a sore thumb is the mars. I wonder why people are so quick to be skeptical and not trust that perhaps some people do know what they're talking about..?
How would you really know though? What you think to be harmonious could be the opposite when actually experiencing it. Maybe it just doesn't work out for you because there's only 1 planet there. IP: Logged |
pocaloca
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posted March 26, 2014 10:35 PM
very often people with Mars in 12th end up in jail..at least one time in life as my observations showed me.IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 26, 2014 10:35 PM
 I know how to apologize.
I've experienced that kind of frustrating relationship before but have matured. I apologize and follow through with action, change. (1st house Pluto? Idk) I'm just saying....
You can read anything but it's what people do with said energies... Their maturity with it. Aspects, synastry, etc. I've changed over the years. I know you are frustrated about it but sorry to burst YOUR bubble... It's not so cut and dry. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 26, 2014 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by pocaloca:
very often people with Mars in 12th end up in jail..at least one time in life as my observations showed me.
After 37 years I never have and don't do anything that could. IP: Logged |
C1ND3R
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posted March 26, 2014 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
How would you really know though? What you think to be harmonious could be the opposite when actually experiencing it. Maybe it just doesn't work out for you because there's only 1 planet there.
It's pretty simple... It's usually seen as a trine. Compatible elements in the chart. Conjunctions, trines, suns, moon, venus.. Composite Saturn making trine to sun. As I said, their mars in my twelfth is the only thing sticking out like a sore thumb... IP: Logged |
C1ND3R
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posted March 26, 2014 10:39 PM
By all means, if anyone is curious to find out firsthand... Go ahead.I do encourage you to snoop.
I never have before.. Something told me to. It's the only reason I ever found out what I did. Mars will NOT be forthcoming. Period. IP: Logged |
pocaloca
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posted March 26, 2014 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
After 37 years I never have and don't do anything that could.
Well I hope this never happen to you but I really often saw it ..especially if Mars badly aspected from other planets Deep..I have a friend who is very successful and serious person with mars in 12 but he told to me ( after I asked him) that he was in trouble for wrong reasons when teenager and that he spent because of that few days in prison...and he is not the only example I met and know about. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted March 26, 2014 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
It's pretty simple... It's usually seen as a trine. Compatible elements in the chart. Conjunctions, trines, suns, moon, venus.. Composite Saturn making trine to sun. As I said, their mars in my twelfth is the only thing sticking out like a sore thumb...
I know what it means I'm asking logically. We happen to have it and it's the greatest relationship either of us has ever had. 12th house is not at all frowned upon. Its something else going in that person's chart that's caused all of that. You can't put the blame on one thing you think to be the problem without having the proof that others have had the same problem. It could be many others that are causing the issues. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 26, 2014 10:55 PM
My Mars natally is in 12th square moon, conjunct mercury. My Venus is 12th too. Square Neptune My Mars and mercury asc in HER 12th. Her sun, moon, Jupiter in mine.
No problems.
We even have Mars square Pluto (I'm pluto)which is supposed to be this nasty, violence provoking aspect but it's only made things hot. You have to look at the WHOOOOOLE chart.
I've never cheated. (was the cheatee once)
Never spent a night in jail. Never any real trouble. Some speeding.
No drugs.. Don't smoke, don't really drink. I've been totally different to different people when in relationships. Partly due to synastry, partly due to maturing, and partly due to recognizing my issues and dealing with them. My point is... Don't target a single aspect. Any astrologer worth listening to will tell you that. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted March 26, 2014 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
By all means, if anyone is curious to find out firsthand... Go ahead.I do encourage you to snoop.
I never have before.. Something told me to. It's the only reason I ever found out what I did. Mars will NOT be forthcoming. Period.
Not true.
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DeepFreeze
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posted March 26, 2014 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
By all means, if anyone is curious to find out firsthand... Go ahead.I do encourage you to snoop.
I never have before.. Something told me to. It's the only reason I ever found out what I did. Mars will NOT be forthcoming. Period.
I was like that with one person. Unfortunately I don't know her birth time.
But I was that way because I felt that I had to be. She very clearly didn't "get me". We danced to a different drum beat.
I felt I was to be someone I'm not. It was not good and she was very fake to "outsiders". Basically everyone else. I'm very forthcoming myself. (Leo sun?) But OK....
I don't see the need to debate it any further.
Clearly you've made your mind up. Maybe WE'RE a special case but still... That means that there ARE exceptions IP: Logged |
C1ND3R
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posted March 26, 2014 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I know what it means I'm asking logically. We happen to have it and it's the greatest relationship either of us has ever had. 12th house is not at all frowned upon. Its something else going in that person's chart that's caused all of that. You can't put the blame on one thing you think to be the problem without having the proof that others have had the same problem. It could be many others that are causing the issues.
Denial. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted March 26, 2014 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
Denial.
What would I benefit from denying it and lying about it? IP: Logged |
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