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Faith
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posted March 28, 2014 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ever have an experience where you're hanging out with a couple, and later one of them (or both) tell you that they can get along better with their partner when YOU are there?

Maybe your Mercury is conjunct their composite sun or Venus, so you embody and facilitate communication for them?

Or have you ever felt that you simply dislike a couple and wish they would break up...then you look and see that your sun is conjunct their composite Saturn? So you are like Saturn personified to their relationship?

I have.

Specifically, my ex and his girlfriend both wanted me to hang around with them because those two got along so much better when I was there. Odd, isn't it? Yet their composite moon was conjunct my moon. Their composite Jupiter was almost exactly conjunct my Mars. Maybe I increased their luck.

Wondering if anyone else has experienced and looked into this, and what you've found.

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Ceridwen
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posted March 28, 2014 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven`t quite checked it, but I notice that I LOVE talking about Mr Sag to you.
In a way you seem to have clearer view than I have myself, and seem to grasp the connection even better than I do.

Something like this?

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Faith
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posted March 28, 2014 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ceri! Yes, kind of like that...I love you two as a couple (my Venus conjunct your Mars-ASC and his Mercury) so I guess my natural enthusiasm is right where a lot of your synastry with him is taking place.

Symbiosis!

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posted March 28, 2014 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love that you are so positive towards thsi.

BTW interestingly your Venus is also conjunct his ex-girlfriend`s Chiron (and Mars) and opposing her Saturn.

Interestingly our first meeting chart had ASC conjunct this as well.

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fairaqua
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posted March 28, 2014 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My cousin and her husband fight like cats and dogs.. But when the SO and I are around they harmonize very well.
Its not the "Im putting the fake smile to make us look happy" happy either.

Ive seen them cut each other down in a way the SO and I had to step in and say "enough of that is enough, yall will never get through it talking like that to each other"

I couldnt even begin to tell you whats going on between all the charts (would you make a synastry between the two composites?), but yes, I do believe people can help harmonize certain aspects when they step into the picture

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Jo B
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posted March 28, 2014 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's just a normal psychological thing.

Couples with no outside communication with third parties can be as lonely as being a single person with no-one to communicate with. Familiarity can sometimes breed contempt.

Couples need that outside party not just for stimulation but for validation of their own connectedness, and seeing their partner in a new perspective by observing how they relate with other people.

I know for me I find it immensely attractive when I see my boyfriend interacting well with other people. With strangers it reminds me of what I saw in him in the first place, and with friends I can see they bring out other aspects of him I might have neglected.

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Faith
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posted March 28, 2014 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Ceri:

quote:
Interestingly our first meeting chart had ASC conjunct this as well.

I knew something else was significant, just couldn't remember. Also, my Vertex is most likely in Sag. To use your expression, I might just be feeling some of the emotional resonance generated by you two.

@fairaqua:

Yes, that's what I mean! I've just looked at some composite charts against my natal, but I wonder if other astrologers have a method for mapping out the dynamic between multiple parties.

@Jo B

Good points, and I agree. Thank you.

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posted March 28, 2014 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
@Ceri:
Also, my Vertex is most likely in Sag. To use your expression, I might just be feeling some of the emotional resonance generated by you two.


And it is turning your world upside down.

I doubt though it would be that impressive.


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Desiring Shadows
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posted March 28, 2014 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Part of me says: To me thats just wrong. Third wheeling on a whole new level.

ANOTHER part says:

quote:
Originally posted by Jo B:
"Couples need that outside party not just for stimulation but for validation of their own connectedness, and seeing their partner in a new perspective by observing how they relate with other people."

My turn:
I have a friend who I'm not dating but when we are with the other friend I feel like we are whole. & we all just get along so much better.
She probably affects our composite chart. So yeah!

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posted March 28, 2014 04:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

I would think they have a lack of Mercury-aspects in synastry so yeah your planets boost their composite "communcation".

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Faith
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posted March 29, 2014 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Ceri

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And it is turning your world upside down.

@DS:

Yeah, I think it's just inevitable. People are like ingredients that you can combine to make a new recipe.

@summerlite:

Right. The Mercury person might act like a translator, amplifier, or muffler according to the aspects. Just a theory for now, though....

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Faith
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posted March 29, 2014 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taking this in a different direction: Angelina's natal (appearing as transits) versus Brad and Jennifer's composite chart~~

"You destroy us"

I had wondered, before I even checked these charts, if Angie's Uranus was square their composite sun. It is.

Also, Angie's moon is actually at 13 Aries, conjunct her 10 Aries Mars. Widely square to Brad and Jennifer's composite 8 Cap moon, and conjunct their Venus-Jupiter conjunction. See:

Some other stuff I find interesting here:

- Brad and Jen had a composite 3H sun, Mercury, Eros...and Angie is a Gemini.

-Angie's Neptune on their composite Juno: fogging things up for their marriage?

-Angie's sun-Juno falls into their (empty) 7th house, and her moon-Mars-Jupiter falls into their 5th house ---> and if that doesn't say "I (Angie) am going to bring children into your lives" I don't know what would!

Still exploring this....

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Kerosene
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posted March 29, 2014 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah one time..

My best friend in hs was dating this guy that I basically hooked her up with.

And I became their mediator in their relationship and he would like invite me to hang out with them often and my friend and I were like wtf at first but than she became dependent on me because she was so into him.

One time he kissed me and was I remember my reaction was like
YOU'RE STUPID.
basically suggested A 3some..

I told my friend and she had the normal reaction but later was like yeah about that 3some.
I was like you have no self respect.

but yeah after that I do not get involved with other peoples relationships.
I do not want to meet my friends lovers or get friendly with them.

My Venus conjuncts their Mercury
My mars conjuncts their asc from the 12th
My mercury conjuncts their SN

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Faith
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posted March 29, 2014 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here, Jen's birth info is shown as the "transit" to Brangelina's composite:

Isn't that fascinating? Brad and Angie have a DSC-Vertex-Mercury-Chiron in early Aries, conjunct Jen's Chiron-NN and Venus!

And her SN-Jupiter in Libra is conjunct their composite Uranus-ASC. Jen's Pluto is conjunct their composite NN.

Her Saturn and Venus falling into their 7H, like a ghost of her Venus hardship haunting them.

And as you can see, Jen's outer planets are conjunct their composite outer planets because she was born around the midpoint between their birthdays. Pretty wild.

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Faith
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posted March 29, 2014 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:

but yeah after that I do not get involved with other peoples relationships.
I do not want to meet my friends lovers or get friendly with them.

It can be a slippery slope to disaster, you're right.

quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
My Venus conjuncts their Mercury
My mars conjuncts their asc from the 12th
My mercury conjuncts their SN

Interesting! Thanks for posting the chart.

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