posted April 11, 2014 08:22 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ But the moves we make are controlled by our past, religion, conditionings, laws, morality and what not. Are we really in control ?

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If that's what you truly believe - then that's what defines "your world". It's your choice. Nobody enforced that choice upon you (definitely - not the stars) - thus "free will".

- "the choices we made" in the past can affect our present, but we can always "chose" to change that
- religions are part of doctrines - meant for those who chose to live like sheep (more or less) - as it goes hand in hand with their comfort zone
- conditionings and laws were created or exist - as a necessity (for example - without the laws of physics - this Universe wouldn't be able to exist in this state) - for structure.
- morality is subjective (thus - a matter of choice in terms of moral standards - limited to our understanding of things - of people - of the world)

posted April 11, 2014 08:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Don't forget about your parents and their thinking/mindset/psychology, since they are your creators, their psychology will have an effect as well.

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NO, you've got it backwards.

You have the parents you have because that is the innate tenor of your Natal. Or perhaps what you are working on this time around.

posted April 11, 2014 09:25 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
If that's what you truly believe - then that's what defines "your world". It's your choice. Nobody enforced that choice upon you (definitely - not the stars) - thus "free will".

- "the choices we made" in the past can affect our present, but we can always "chose" to change that
- religions are part of doctrines - meant for those who chose to live like sheep (more or less) - as it goes hand in hand with their comfort zone
- conditionings and laws were created or exist - as a necessity (for example - without the laws of physics - this Universe wouldn't be able to exist in this state) - for structure.
- morality is subjective (thus - a matter of choice in terms of moral standards - limited to our understanding of things - of people - of the world)

If those are your believes - then you have less control than others, i give you that.

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posted April 11, 2014 09:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:

NO, you've got it backwards.

You have the parents you have because that is the innate tenor of your Natal. Or perhaps what you are working on this time around.

People always get it backwards.

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posted April 11, 2014 10:08 PM            

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Number one, your attitude and the way you conduct yourself and the thoughts you have concerning the future and even state of mind have effect on the outcome of this at the time.

The future is determined by how you respond to these Transits and choices you make at that time.

So in a way you predestine yourself, but it is fully from your own acts.

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So then is the entire chart past life karma, or just the nodes??

My pMoon is currently in Pisces and along with pMercury conjunct pJupiter your quote is the sum total of what I'll take away.

I'm in an environment where I can see an astrological/past life* connection between me and everyone else.

1. There are a couple people who share the same birthdate as old friends.

2. People whose natal chart is the pChart of exes with whom I have unfinished business. (ex and I had a fling when ex was 18yo, the new person was born 18 days after ex, thus I'm working with the same chart/energy). I've lost count of how many people I've run into like this. Even see it with school age rivals from when I was 10yo (last day of school rival was 11yo, recently met colleague who was born 12 days after rival). Prior to this I was spying on fb to see how rival's life turned out.

3.I believe it works with names too. Not that long ago I sent lots of naughty energy to someone I'll call yxx - it didn't work. At present, and for a while now there's someone with the same name whose very keen to "have something" with me. They're so persistent you'd think I sent and called them or something.

4. I remember when I purchased my first car. I had exacting specifications; year, color, features, and how much I was going to pay - and I found it. When I ran the chart of the person who sold it to me, they were born a month ahead of me. Their progressed chart however, was exactly conjunct my natal chart. As is to be expected things ran smoothly - it was such a magical day.

5. Once upon a time I drew up an astrological & numerological profile of my ideal mate: Sun, Moon, Mars, lifepath, & birthday #. Super eager when I ran into 'em, which I didn't mind, but I didn't like their personality. Ouch! They were not happy about that reception - I may still be feeling the fallout from that one.

*I use the term loosely.

posted April 11, 2014 11:42 PM            

The connection between a clock and a natal chart is too obvious to ignore... But as we move into the age of Aquarius I think ppls ideas about spirituality and how things are ordered and "designed" in the world are changing. This is kind of a random tangent but I always found it disturbing that many Christians consider astrology "satanic", yet if you look into the history of Christianity it is tied strongly to astrologers and astrology itself. Also... why is there an entire sign (Pisces) representative of "God"? Call it a higher power or whatever you want, but imo it has very Christian themes, and the "age of Pisces" was centered around Christianity.