posted April 15, 2014 11:32 AM            

I am not sure of the trine, sextile aspect- as I have yet to experience them.

I don't have this aspect natally , but I can assume that it can mean "suppressed anger".

I have this aspect with many people who have featured consistently in my life for many years. I don't feel indifferent to either of them and its hard to "cut" them out of my life.

The first is my ex. He has Saturn in Libra 21 Degrees conjunct my Mars in Libra 17 Degrees.

In the relationship with him, I was always so angry and acting like the "jealous" type.

I would scream and shout at him and be frustrated that he didn't respond in kind. It almost communicated to me that he just didn't care. And that riled me up to no end.

The second is with my friend for many years.

He also has his Saturn in Libra 10 Degrees conjunct my Mars in Libra 17 Degrees.

You'd think that this is too wide a conjunction to note, but I tell you that I behave in a similar fashion with him.

I want all his attention and can get easily angry at him for not giving it.

The 3rd one is also with a friend with the same aspect; Saturn in Libra 10 Degrees aspecting my Mars.

Our friendship ended, was revived and then ended and is now revived again. We are also far from being indifferent to each other and behave like we are an on/off couple.

With him, I tend to act very aggressively and don't like it when he gives others more attention than he does to me.

The last is with a potential guy who has his Mars in Scorpio 14 Degrees conjunct my Saturn in Scorpio 13.

In this case, being Saturn, I found him "childish", "selfish", "hot-headed" and "too much to deal with".

I am not indifferent to him either. In fact, sometimes I just want to beat him up so that he can "tow the bloody line".

I am extremely controlling of him and definitely treat him like I'm his "Daddy". Never mind the fact that we are both of the same age.

So, I just wanted to hear from you guys. Is this placement destructive?

posted April 15, 2014 12:25 PM            

I know another who has taurus mars oppose scorp saturn n from what I can see he's not destructive. I don't know heaps about his private life though..

in synastry, my s.o saturn opposes my mars n my saturn trines his mars. We had some pretty heated fights/arguments, but they never last long. Often they ended just as quickly as they started (I have great respect for his opinions and he's quite tolerating towards me). Mostly because of disagreements on how to deal with certain situation/circumstances. But we have quite a few squares n oppositions so...

Synastry with my best friend, my taurus mars trine her cap saturn. We've known each other since we were little n we have never fought. Same with my good cousin, my taurus mars trine her libra saturn.

posted April 15, 2014 12:25 PM            

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Originally posted by AscTaurus:

In the relationship with him, I was always so angry and acting like the "jealous" type.

I would scream and shout at him and be frustrated that he didn't respond in kind. It almost communicated to me that he just didn't care. And that riled me up to no end.

The second is with my friend for many years.

He also has his Saturn in Libra 10 Degrees conjunct my Mars in Libra 17 Degrees.

You'd think that this is too wide a conjunction to note, but I tell you that I behave in a similar fashion with him.

I want all his attention and can get easily angry at him for not giving it.

The 3rd one is also with a friend with the same aspect; Saturn in Libra 10 Degrees aspecting my Mars.

Our friendship ended, was revived and then ended and is now revived again. We are also far from being indifferent to each other and behave like we are an on/off couple.

With him, I tend to act very aggressively and don't like it when he gives others more attention than he does to me.

The last is with a potential guy who has his Mars in Scorpio 14 Degrees conjunct my Saturn in Scorpio 13.

In this case, being Saturn, I found him "childish", "selfish", "hot-headed" and "too much to deal with".

I am not indifferent to him either. In fact, sometimes I just want to beat him up so that he can "tow the bloody line".

I am extremely controlling of him and definitely treat him like I'm his "Daddy". Never mind the fact that we are both of the same age.

So, I just wanted to hear from you guys. Is this placement destructive?

Because, even though its not noted as one that is very volatile, in my experience, it seems to be both explosive(Mars) AND endearing(Saturn).

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posted April 15, 2014 12:48 PM            

I think they're afraid of being destructive, so they learn to be extremely self controlled.

1) same friend I mentioned has mars conjunct Saturn. He has harnessed it pretty well into fitness. Every single man I've met with a mars conjunct Saturn has a spectacular body. Not just nice, straight out spectacular. Impeccable self control but sometimes too much. A little letting go would be fun, you know.

2) mars square Saturn. Struggles with his masculinity. I mean, it's clearly there, but struggles with embodying it in a positive way. Too much self control because of fear.

posted April 15, 2014 03:33 PM            

I used to wonder,agonizing, why my first relationship didn't work out.

I mean , I knew that we didn't really click, but the feelings that we have for each other still linger on. I am not indifferent to him(nor he to me).

I think Saturn/Mars conjunct makes sense for one to have a spectacular physique. Saturn is commitment and Mars is drive and so, the two together can build something solid.

But I find the longevity of this aspect fascinating. I know that it is not listed as "desirable" , but I can't help but see its significance.

And I think, what I meant by "destructive" was purely because of the readings I sifted through.

Mars is action/energy and Saturn is restriction and control.

I wonder if couples who are violent with each other have the square? Or perhaps those who have challenging relationships with parents should look into Saturn squaring their Mars either nataly or in synastry?

I know that this is the negative side of this aspects as it also can suggest a strong sexual attraction(Mars) that lingers on and on(Saturn) in couples.

My mother has Saturn in Capricorn squaring my Mars in Libra (by 2 Degrees): She has been very instructive and involved in many choices/decisions in my life. My Dad is not at all hands on.In this regard the square is a positive influence.

posted April 15, 2014 04:49 PM              

I just really feel my body accurately represents me.

posted April 15, 2014 04:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Sandra018:
this guy I ve been seeing has his Saturn square my Mars.
now I m an aries, with an aries mars, conjuct to sun and oppo to pluto ( I m fiery lol)
his non-reaction would drive me WILD!!
I would flare up in an argument, and he would have no feedback/reaction..and that would further make me disrespected. BAD ASPECT IN SYNASTRY. I would stay away..matter of fact I d never entertain a person with these bad contacts in astrology again.

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I get your frustration. Since I have also experienced this-being the Mars person.

But once you are Saturn. Once you are the "parent" and being the "cool, calm, collected" party, it's not so easy to judge.

Saturn to Venus cools the charms or strengthens them.

If you are Venus in that scenario, you may feel "unloved" by Saturn as Saturn rarely seems to show you anything.

This is even worse if the individual concerned has Saturn aspecting Mercury/Venus/Moon or Sun nataly. They seem so "dead" to you.

On the other hand,you could also feel like the relationships is very serious and is likely to be for life; this is in the latter instance when Saturn is serious about sticking around and being your companion for life.

If you are Saturn, you bring "sobriety" to Venus and can crush or build the relationship.

You may find it hard to receive the affections of Venus openly; seeing them as "corny", "superfluous" and embarrassing".

But if you love the Venus individual, you'll have to make a conscious effort to really show that you care.

You don't have to wear your heart on your sleeve, but show that you also bleed.

With Saturn/Mars in synastry , it is similar. It can go either way:

The Saturn person can extinguish the fires of Mars person or help them burn productively (and this takes a very evolved Saturn person to do)

I was about to enter into a relationship where I was the Saturn person, and believe you me, I just was very hard on the Mars guy.

posted April 17, 2014 07:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Jinni:
Natal mars-saturn contacts can make an invidual rather harsh.

The girl I know who has this cannot stand weakness in others and is pretty ruthless towards people. She rarely shows any weakness herself either. She hasn`t had it easy in life but never complains so I think that`s why she cannot stand whiney or weak or too laid back people.

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posted August 31, 2018 03:42 AM            

Yes, I think they say that it's violent because Pars is knee jerk quick reactions that has to flow through narrow point. When it is thwarted, it loses it's clear line and misfired, causing hovock.

posted August 31, 2018 04:51 AM            

It's very Destructive.
But I guess it's destructive for ME not for others. Due to excessive suppression of anger physical and mental health affected.

posted August 31, 2018 12:45 PM            

You make a mistake, you throw away the whole sheet of paper. Or you become easily frustrated when results are slow to form.

My sister has the opposition and it can be self-sabotaging. In that Mars starts off with enthusiasm. But Saturn brings everything "down to earth" and things get really demoralizing for Mars.

In a relationship the Saturn person will be the one who is calm and even tempered. But the Mars person is likely to feel ill appreciated by Saturn or patronized.

Anger usually lingers on here for a while as arguments carry on and gain steady momentum without a "climax" point or showdown.

posted August 31, 2018 08:18 PM            

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Originally posted by sag_stellium:

I think they're afraid of being destructive, so they learn to be extremely self controlled.

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This.
I have Saturn opposition Mars natally.

If I feel that I am the aggressor in a relationship I retreat. Because it's not what I am ok to be.
I've had this issue once (or as I recorded it), this person has their Sun in square to my Mars.

posted August 31, 2018 08:43 PM            

Specifically, Saturn is challenging the person's ego impulses to use more restraint and allow the maturity of healthy Saturn energies to help the person learn patience, persistence, and taking responsibility for their own actions.

The underlying soul intention implied is constructive. How the person responds outwardly as a human being may not match the underlying need in soul development.

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"Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts

posted September 09, 2018 03:36 PM            

My aunt has this aspect (Mars square Saturn) and she is afraid of fights even if she hears someone shouting she gets scared. Till her 20s she would cry out of fear if someone shouted at her.

posted September 10, 2018 12:08 PM            

Also, fighting stresses me out (unless it's a friendly fight like sparring or something). Sometimes, I would say something out of anger and then feel bad later on because I was "too mean". My boyfriend always tells me to never apologize if I was right, but even then, it's hard not to.

posted September 11, 2018 07:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
In my experience, it is more restrictive than it is destructive. Like sometimes, I wanna do something, but end up not doing it because of a few imagined consequences.

Also, fighting stresses me out (unless it's a friendly fight like sparring or something). Sometimes, I would say something out of anger and then feel bad later on because I was "too mean". My boyfriend always tells me to never apologize if I was right, but even then, it's hard not to.

I have Mars in Libra opposite Saturn in Aries in a t-square with Neptune in Capricorn.

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posted September 11, 2018 07:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
My aunt has this aspect (Mars square Saturn) and she is afraid of fights even if she hears someone shouting she gets scared. Till her 20s she would cry out of fear if someone shouted at her.

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Yeah - they can be very afraid of their own anger. So it turns inwards and can become "self-destructive", i.e. lead to self-harm, depression, etc.

On the other hand, if it's outwardly expressed, it can be pretty harsh. More often than not, they're just as harsh on themselves as they are on others. Saturn can lead to a "slow burn" kind of anger that can be quite brutal when unleashed. Which is hwy some of them are afraid of anger and choose to suppress it (Saturn).

In a healthy expression, they could be able to sustain their energy to follow through on anything they take up.