posted April 25, 2014 04:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Plutonian_Gal8:
LeeLoo2014

[b]My ex-boyfriend was a pathological flirt and cheater. He had Moon, Venus, Mercury in Aquarius, all squared by Uranus, Sun in Cap square Uranus. But the real reason for his cheating was all his planets, Sun in the middle opp. by Saturn in the 11th house: a pathological need to prove himself as worthy of love, popular in groups etc.

Sounds eerily like my ex Very similar placements. That clown doesn't know what he wants, but will tell it on the highest mountain he SO desires a wife [Capricorn Sun] it's purely to have that traditional pretense! But that Moon/Ven Aqua in the 5th squaring Uranus and opposing Saturn in the 11th. The man will marry for financial gain and image. Other than that, fidelity is not in his make-up.[/B]

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posted April 25, 2014 04:36 PM            

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Originally posted by ariestaurus:
Who is who?

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posted April 25, 2014 04:42 PM            

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Originally posted by ariestaurus:
Who is who?

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She's inside.

Ok...it's interesting....hard to tell.

First of all, the man has a lot of stability placements: Venus/Mercury in Taurus plus 4th conjunct Vesta, Vesta conjunct Sun sextile Juno, Saturn on DSC (takes relationships very seriously, but he is hard to commit though), Mars sextile Pluto, ASC/DSC on Capricorn/Cancer axis, Moon in 2nd (though in Aries), MC in Scorpio conjunct NN: ambitious, committed to his goals (this could come between you though), Mars in Leo 7th, the man is loaded with stability.

Mars conjunct Saturn too, although this could become tricky, the out of sign plus Saturn in sensitive and insecure Cancer in combination with Leo Mars in need of showing off: the problem here is Chiron, namely his Mars/Uranus/Chiron T-square and your Venus falls into it. I'd say if this man cheats, it's because of some sexual problems or sexual fantasies in need of accomplishment. He could become a good tantrist though, if spiritually enlightened. You trigger his Chiron a lot, for good or ill. Another reason for this man to cheat would be his Juno on his 8th house cusp: this man has some ideal sex goddess in his mind, in his fantasies and he might think about looking for her from time to time.

I can see your relationship started as a sexual one, it was a big deal for you (the Yod involving your Uranus and NN, with his Venus, your Mars on his SN), you have good erotic aspects (Venus/Mars DW, 8th house overlay, Venus, Mars on angles).

However, it is not impossible for you to be the other woman or another woman to be involved, because Lilith ( a sign for "the other woman", the lover, the temptation) is right on your DSC and your Lilith on his ASC and falling in his 12th house (hidden). But it doesn't mean it is so, it could very well mean passion.

The real problem with this synastry, IMO, is that he doesn't seem to be in love, I mean the love, romantic aspects are kinda missing. Of course, I might be wrong You are very attracted to him, your Venus right on his ASC, but it could be just physical attraction. There are not many indications of forming a couple on all levels, not just erotic.

posted April 25, 2014 04:52 PM            

I have 5 Cancer planets in 11H.
Mars conj Asc
Venus (11) sq Uranus(3H)
Moon in 5H

I have almost all my planets and asteroids in Cardinal signs and Fixed houses. Lilith is in Aries 8H and completes a Cardinal Cross of sorts although asteroids aren't used. But my Sun, Moon, Pluto and Lilith in a square? Not fun...

My Pchart consists of Sun, Venus, Mercury, Mars conj Asc (in the 12H) Virgo. All angles are Mutable.

I have empty 7H Pisces in both charts.

posted April 25, 2014 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I have cheated many times. For various reasons I don't care to talk about.

I have 5 Cancer planets in 11H.
Mars conj Asc
Venus (11) sq Uranus(3H)
Moon in 5H

I have almost all my planets and asteroids in Cardinal signs and Fixed houses. Lilith is in Aries 8H and completes a Cardinal Cross of sorts although asteroids aren't used. But my Sun, Moon, Pluto and Lilith in a square? Not fun...

My Pchart consists of Sun, Venus, Mercury, Mars conj Asc (in the 12H) Virgo. All angles are Mutable.

I have empty 7H Pisces in both charts.

Not sure I can help with this.

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posted April 25, 2014 04:58 PM            

I notice your uranus is square his asc, so maybe you wouldn't be as interested in him if he wanted a relationship. Whenever I have this in synastry with someone, I find that I only like the person when the relationship is exciting and undefined, but get bored when things get too settled.

posted April 25, 2014 05:08 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
She's inside.

Ok...it's interesting....hard to tell.

First of all, the man has a lot of stability placements: Venus/Mercury in Taurus plus 4th conjunct Vesta, Vesta conjunct Sun sextile Juno, Saturn on DSC (takes relationships very seriously, but he is hard to commit though), Mars sextile Pluto, ASC/DSC on Capricorn/Cancer axis, Moon in 2nd (though in Aries), MC in Scorpio conjunct NN: ambitious, committed to his goals (this could come between you though), Mars in Leo 7th, the man is loaded with stability.

Mars conjunct Saturn too, although this could become tricky, the out of sign plus Saturn in sensitive and insecure Cancer in combination with Leo Mars in need of showing off: the problem here is Chiron, namely his Mars/Uranus/Chiron T-square and your Venus falls into it. I'd say if this man cheats, it's because of some sexual problems or sexual fantasies in need of accomplishment. He could become a good tantrist though, if spiritually enlightened. You trigger his Chiron a lot, for good or ill. Another reason for this man to cheat would be his Juno on his 8th house cusp: this man has some ideal sex goddess in his mind, in his fantasies and he might think about looking for her from time to time.

I can see your relationship started as a sexual one, it was a big deal for you (the Yod involving your Uranus and NN, with his Venus, your Mars on his SN), you have good erotic aspects (Venus/Mars DW, 8th house overlay, Venus, Mars on angles).

However, it is not impossible for you to be the other woman or another woman to be involved, because Lilith ( a sign for "the other woman", the lover, the temptation) is right on your DSC and your Lilith on his ASC and falling in his 12th house (hidden). But it doesn't mean it is so, it could very well mean passion.

The real problem with this synastry, IMO, is that he doesn't seem to be in love, I mean the love, romantic aspects are kinda missing. Of course, I might be wrong You are very attracted to him, your Venus right on his ASC, but it could be just physical attraction. There are not many indications of forming a couple on all levels, not just erotic.

It's just an opinion, take it with a grain of salt and if you really really want to know if he is married, and you take this seriously, please hire a detective

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I will hire a detective if it gets that serious! you are right, he is serious and stable. He's just not that forthcoming with information. I've tried to break it off many times because I don't feel it coming together as couples normally do, but he always finds a way back. It's not even me, it's him. What would be some love indicators? Other asteroids?

I really appreciate you taking a look by the way. It's amazing the information one can get from charts. The cheating was just my own (rational/irrational) thoughts. I actually have no evidence. It stemmed from knowing/feeling as though there are sides to him that I don't know. He's got children out of wedlock, living outside of our state. His goals, that you mentioned that are important, I'm not even familiar with them. So I guess it's those things, not knowing the real person, that makes me feel unconnected

posted April 25, 2014 05:15 PM            

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Originally posted by vintagesoul:

I will hire a detective if it gets that serious! you are right, he is serious and stable. He's just not that forthcoming with information. I've tried to break it off many times because I don't feel it coming together as couples normally do, but he always finds a way back. It's not even me, it's him. What would be some love indicators? Other asteroids?

I really appreciate you taking a look by the way. It's amazing the information one can get from charts. The cheating was just my own (rational/irrational) thoughts. I actually have no evidence. It stemmed from knowing/feeling as though there are sides to him that I don't know. He's got children out of wedlock, living outside of our state. His goals, that you mentioned that are important, I'm not even familiar with them. So I guess it's those things, not knowing the real person, that makes me feel unconnected

Any suggestions on other asteroids, I will try them. Thanks again!

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posted April 25, 2014 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
She's inside.

Ok...it's interesting....hard to tell.

First of all, the man has a lot of stability placements: Venus/Mercury in Taurus plus 4th conjunct Vesta, Vesta conjunct Sun sextile Juno, Saturn on DSC (takes relationships very seriously, but he is hard to commit though), Mars sextile Pluto, ASC/DSC on Capricorn/Cancer axis, Moon in 2nd (though in Aries), MC in Scorpio conjunct NN: ambitious, committed to his goals (this could come between you though), Mars in Leo 7th, the man is loaded with stability.

Mars conjunct Saturn too, although this could become tricky, the out of sign plus Saturn in sensitive and insecure Cancer in combination with Leo Mars in need of showing off: the problem here is Chiron, namely his Mars/Uranus/Chiron T-square and your Venus falls into it. I'd say if this man cheats, it's because of some sexual problems or sexual fantasies in need of accomplishment. He could become a good tantrist though, if spiritually enlightened. You trigger his Chiron a lot, for good or ill. Another reason for this man to cheat would be his Juno on his 8th house cusp: this man has some ideal sex goddess in his mind, in his fantasies and he might think about looking for her from time to time.

I can see your relationship started as a sexual one, it was a big deal for you (the Yod involving your Uranus and NN, with his Venus, your Mars on his SN), you have good erotic aspects (Venus/Mars DW, 8th house overlay, Venus, Mars on angles).

However, it is not impossible for you to be the other woman or another woman to be involved, because Lilith ( a sign for "the other woman", the lover, the temptation) is right on your DSC and your Lilith on his ASC and falling in his 12th house (hidden). But it doesn't mean it is so, it could very well mean passion.

The real problem with this synastry, IMO, is that he doesn't seem to be in love, I mean the love, romantic aspects are kinda missing. Of course, I might be wrong You are very attracted to him, your Venus right on his ASC, but it could be just physical attraction. There are not many indications of forming a couple on all levels, not just erotic.

It's just an opinion, take it with a grain of salt and if you really really want to know if he is married, and you take this seriously, please hire a detective

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posted April 25, 2014 05:29 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You're welcome Try the love asteroids: Valentine, Amor, Lust, Eros, Psyche, Cupid. Karma too, to see where it falls.

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Is there love now?

When would a chart like this be used? Does it relate the same as synastry? Again, I'm on the inside.

posted April 25, 2014 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by ariestaurus:
His chart doesn't look too bad.. His Aries moon looks well-aspected, and he has many stable placements as LeeLoo mentioned

I notice your uranus is square his asc, so maybe you wouldn't be as interested in him if he wanted a relationship. Whenever I have this in synastry with someone, I find that I only like the person when the relationship is exciting and undefined, but get bored when things get too settled.

I agree with LeeLoo that there is a lack of loving aspects, and his saturn is opposite your venus which isn't too fun..

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What does his saturn opposite my venus mean? How he responds to me? I've had to adjust, so many times, since getting involved with him. He'll call me out when he thinks I'm acting aloof and I feel like I want to be a better person so I adjust. Not exactly for him but because the things he tells me, I recognize my same behaviors in other situations. So as far as not wanting or wanting the relationship, I know he helps me grow but it's never gotten to the settled point.

posted April 25, 2014 08:23 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You're welcome Try the love asteroids: Valentine, Amor, Lust, Eros, Psyche, Cupid. Karma too, to see where it falls.

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Hi again! I'm just full of curiosity about these charts and he they relate. So say hypothetically I am the other woman, is there a way to interpret Lilith on this Davison chart? Or are the charts that show both people better for comparison when not an actual "couple?"

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posted April 26, 2014 04:23 AM            

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Originally posted by vintagesoul:
Hi again! I'm just full of curiosity about these charts and he they relate. So say hypothetically I am the other woman, is there a way to interpret Lilith on this Davison chart? Or are the charts that show both people better for comparison when not an actual "couple?"

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posted April 26, 2014 05:22 AM            

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Originally posted by ariestaurus:

PErsonally, I have an Aries Moon.We tend to think before we act, and we want instant gratification.

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Did you mean ... Act before Think?

posted April 26, 2014 07:55 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Composite and Davison just show the dynamics of the couple. Have you met through work?

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posted April 26, 2014 10:07 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyKitty:
Did you mean ... Act before Think?

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posted April 26, 2014 10:57 AM            

My former FWB has been cheating on his long term girlfriend of 8 years for what seems like forever. He has:
- Sun conjunct Moon in Libra
- Both disposed by Venus in Virgo conjunct Jupiter
- Sun/Moon square Uranus/Neptune

I had another ex who too was a cheat. He has none of the so-called 'cheating' aspects. Contrarily, he has the 'stable' aspects:
- Sun conjunct Saturn in Scorpio
- Moon in Capricorn
- Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio
What I felt was that he wanted a 'trophy' girlfriend(s). He was the kind who could never be happy with one woman.

I'm not sure why I often voluntarily and/or unknowingly end up being the other woman.
I guess it's because

- I'm idealistic and have this thing for 'bad boys' who will change for me.
Astrologically, blame that on my Ascendant ruler in the 12th conjunct Neptune, Moon trine Uranus/Neptune, Juno square Ura/Nept.

- Also, I've been told that I project a 'loose' image which attracts 'loose' men. To be precise, I'm experimental and tend to speak my mind. 'Loose' image could be....I don't know....maybe Sagittarius Venus/Mercury in the 10th sextile Aquarius Ascendant, Scorpio Jupiter square Ascendant. Pluto in the 10th.

posted April 26, 2014 11:06 AM            

Whether they are more likely to be unfaithful than others- yes there are indicators of this. Some indicators include:

Rahu in the first.

Ketu in the first.

Rahu conjunct venus.

Ketu conjunct venus. (in western this is known as south node conjunct venus)

All these are indicators of a cheating spouse. Keep in mind that though these natives do tend to cheat they cheat for different reasons which I won't get into here. Someone with Rahu in the first will cheat for different reasons than someone with Ketu in the first, but they both tend to cheat.

Ketu (or south Node) conjunct venus is especially bad for a male native when it comes to relationships. This is because venus is the karaka for women so it damages a man's value towards women. He has trouble valuing long-lasting relationships. This conjunction creates a great artist however. Many actors and writers have this conjunction in their chart. Robin Williams also has this conjunction and his career as an artist is legendary, but he's also been married three times and all his marriages broke as a result of his extra-marital affairs.

posted April 26, 2014 11:17 AM            

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I had another ex who too was a cheat. He has none of the so-called 'cheating' aspects. Contrarily, he has the 'stable' aspects:
- Sun conjunct Saturn in Scorpio
- Moon in Capricorn
- Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio
What I felt was that he wanted a 'trophy' girlfriend(s). He was the kind who could never be happy with one woman.

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Originally posted by vintagesoul:
This is a chart with my ex husband (on the outside) who was unfaithful.

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posted April 26, 2014 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
From my experience, Venus in leos and virgos have proved themselves to be very unfaithful :s
I m not saying all venus in leos and virgos are unfaithful, but from what I have witnessed, Venus in leos often find that the attention from their significant other is not enough, where as Venus in virgos have shown curiousness of opposite sexes other than their partner. In addition, Venus in Virgos seemed to be constnatly trading up. I have seen many Venus in Virgos that would be in a relationship with someone that they didn't care for, while their were looking to trade up

oops I guess I was supposed to talk about aspects, sorry I am not there yet in terms of expertise

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fascinating post. Thanks! I have seen this with venus in virgo, too lol

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