posted April 26, 2014 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by ariestaurus:
I consider my father the perfect partner. Now, I know how Freudian that sounds, but others agree. My mom is often told how lucky she is to have a great husband like my dad.

He has Scorp sun in the 7th house
Venus conjunct Jupiter, Chiron, and Neptune in Libra.
Leo Moon conjunct Pluto
Mars conjunct Saturn in Cancer in the 4th house

He treats my mother like gold. He NEVER yells at her, puts her down, etc. He treats her with the utmost respect, buys her flowers every month, does pretty much everything for his family. My mom is kind of crazy and has a bad temper, but he handles her well. He's also 13 years older than her, so I feel they have a parent-child kind of relationship in some ways, but he's not patronizing to her. He really hates conflict and compromises very easily (all that libra!). They've been married for 36 years, and they're inseparable. He's affectionate and warm towards her, and treats her like a princess. It's super cute!!

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posted April 26, 2014 04:23 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Just be yourself, Cappy, you are adorable anyway But I would look for his Venus in aspect to your Neptune, his planets in your 1st, planets to ASC, the classical Sun/Venus and Aphrodite aspects. And, of course, Amor, Valentine, Cupid aspects.

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Lol, you just described my synastry with my celeb crush.

posted April 26, 2014 04:35 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Thanks, manderin. So I understand Saturn/SN needs traditional structures to feel secure? But since he's moving away from his SN to his NN, couldn't this mean he rejects them?

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posted April 26, 2014 05:06 PM            

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Originally posted by manderin:
Ok LeeLoo I found an example of Saturn conjunct South Node. Tom Cruise. Remember how I said this conjuction makes people want to find security through restrictive structures like work and religion? Tom wanted to be a priest before he became an actor and after getting into acting he got heavily involved in scientology. He has spent millions trying to get others involved in the religion as well. He wants the security that restrictive structures can provide, but SN means he often fails in obtaining what he wants because there is a subconscious detachment towards these things. So he'll try give scientology a wider scope, but he's likely to fail in this because his view is distorted. Just like someone with venus conj SN will try to find true love, but is likely to fail for the same reason.

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Interesting example, with Tom Cruise. He really seems to be like an epitome for this aspect. Like looking for structures outside because you are neurotic and control-freak inside. The same with Venus, a bit like a bad Venus/Saturn: desperately looking for love outside to make up for lack of self-love.

But I still believe Saturn/SN could also mean inheriting some structures you want to overpass. I think for example it could be an aspect for someone born in prison or some sort of confinement or restrictive situation he needs to break free from.

posted April 26, 2014 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by ariestaurus:
Her Venus is conjunct his Sun and DC in Scorpio
Her Neptune conjunct his DC
His Venus sextile her Sun
Her Neptune conjunct his Sun
His Neptune sextile her Sun
His Pluto trine her Sun, Her Pluto sextile her Sun
His Pluto square her Venus
His Saturn trine her Mars
Her Saturn trine his Moon, sextile his VEnus
His Venus, Jupiter, Neptune, Chiron trine her Ascendant
His Moon trine her Sun
Her Sun, Moon, Mercury in his 8th house

and in composite, they have a Moon/Venus/Neptune conjunction in Libra and Sun on the Descendant.

My dad is pretty much incapable of being mean, rude, or selfish, so everyone likes him!

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posted April 26, 2014 07:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Can we have an astrological portrait of what constitutes a good man? From experience/supposition? (I would prefer if you state which it is)

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Ok - From experience - men with social sign influence: Leo/Virgo/Libra/Scorpio are "good"lol
Personal signs are too self-centred and transpersonal signs are disinterested in dating/relationships.

The exceptions are: Virgo Suns - because I see them more as 'just friends'.. and Virgo Mercuries because they are too realistic for me. With my Pisces influence, I'm a dreamer.
Other than that - Any mix of personal planets in Leo, Virgo, Libra and/or Scorpio works for me!

posted April 26, 2014 07:52 PM            

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Originally posted by maira:
manderin, based on that logic, wouldn't the SN/Jupiter person desperately want and try to be 'good', moral, etc, but fail? I seem to recall that ketu is malefic in vedic astrology...

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No, you must remember that these conjunctions come with both good and bad effects. Venus+Ketu is generally bad for relationships, but great for artistic expression and it often makes the native very like-able.

posted April 26, 2014 08:10 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

But I still believe Saturn/SN could also mean inheriting some structures you want to overpass. I think for example it could be an aspect for someone born in prison or some sort of confinement or restrictive situation he needs to break free from.

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Yes I think so too. The nodes are not simple. I know there is a belief that RAhu is where we are going and SN is where we came from, but that can be a little misleading because as you said- both are malefics and putting to much focus on either can turn out badly. I like how this website article put it:

posted April 27, 2014 04:07 AM            

But Moon/Venus trine usually makes someone empathetic and understanding of females and thereby "good" in their eyes.

But my Dad has this aspect in earth signs and it makes him a seducer of women , but not necessarily a "good" man in the strict sense of the word. He is quite slimy.

Jupiter involved anywhere can bring on self-righteousness and a "better than others" attitude-if unchecked. I don't think that this constitutes a "good" person per se, unless you are really into judgmental "preacher" types?

Neptune aspecting Asc/Moon/Sun/Mars can make one self-sacrificial- but this can go both ways.It can also make one deceptive.

I don't think there are any such aspects that make one "good" or "bad". We each have our own struggles and,depending on how well we deal with them, we learn empathy/apathy.

If you want someone who has strong values that they stick by doggedly, look at the sign on the 2nd house cusp; Capricorn, Taurus,Cancer,Scorpio,Virgo,Aquarius and Leo.

posted April 27, 2014 06:32 AM            

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Originally posted by manderin:
Yes I think so too. The nodes are not simple. I know there is a belief that RAhu is where we are going and SN is where we came from, but that can be a little misleading because as you said- both are malefics and putting to much focus on either can turn out badly. I like how this website article put it:

"Some authors interpret the Nodes as "where we've been" and "where we should be going." This can be misleading. The Nodes are primarily an opposition! The goal of any opposition is synthesis -- to turn the enemies into allies, to combine the best of both into a golden mean. Talking about one Node as your "future" and the other as your "past" encourages people to fall into polarization and projection -- exactly the problems to which the Nodes are susceptible! Both Nodes relate to past lives and polarities we are striving to balance. Both Nodes relate to the future which can be bright when we achieve a pleasing synthesis!"
http://www.astrology.com/another-look-nodes/2-d-d-5023

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posted April 27, 2014 06:42 AM            

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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
"Good" is relative as not all people share the same morals.

But Moon/Venus trine usually makes someone empathetic and understanding of females and thereby "good" in their eyes.

But my Dad has this aspect in earth signs and it makes him a seducer of women , but not necessarily a "good" man in the strict sense of the word. He is quite slimy.

Jupiter involved anywhere can bring on self-righteousness and a "better than others" attitude-if unchecked. I don't think that this constitutes a "good" person per se, unless you are really into judgmental "preacher" types?

Neptune aspecting Asc/Moon/Sun/Mars can make one self-sacrificial- but this can go both ways.It can also make one deceptive.

I don't think there are any such aspects that make one "good" or "bad". We each have our own struggles and,depending on how well we deal with them, we learn empathy/apathy.

If you want someone who has strong values that they stick by doggedly, look at the sign on the 2nd house cusp; Capricorn, Taurus,Cancer,Scorpio,Virgo,Aquarius and Leo.

But then again,you may not agree with what their value system comprise of and see them as "not so good".

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posted April 27, 2014 06:49 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Interesting post, AscTa, how you pointed out the negative side of all planets, including the "benefics". All planets and aspects have a dark side, therefore there are no good aspects per se. If we look at the chart of Stalin, the most profilic European mass murderer, we see a very nice Grand Trine between Mercury/Uranus/Neptune: which could have been a sign of a enlightened, visionary mind, Jupiter conjunct NN in 11th house: a leader that brings something good into the world, Jupiter trine Moon in Libra (the most peaceful Moon), Sun conjunct Venus on MC. All these aspects could have been the aspects of someone bringing a lot of good into the world, but in reality all these supportive aspects helped him kill 20 million people and destroy lives and countries for dozens of generations.

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posted April 27, 2014 07:32 AM            

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Originally posted by manderin:
Yes I think so too. The nodes are not simple. I know there is a belief that RAhu is where we are going and SN is where we came from, but that can be a little misleading because as you said- both are malefics and putting to much focus on either can turn out badly. I like how this website article put it:

"Some authors interpret the Nodes as "where we've been" and "where we should be going." This can be misleading. The Nodes are primarily an opposition! The goal of any opposition is synthesis -- to turn the enemies into allies, to combine the best of both into a golden mean. Talking about one Node as your "future" and the other as your "past" encourages people to fall into polarization and projection -- exactly the problems to which the Nodes are susceptible! Both Nodes relate to past lives and polarities we are striving to balance. Both Nodes relate to the future which can be bright when we achieve a pleasing synthesis!"
http://www.astrology.com/another-look-nodes/2-d-d-5023

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Oh, Manderin, thank you for the article, my Moon on South Node feels much more hopeful.