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Topic: The good, elligible men
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Dancing Maenad
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posted April 26, 2014 12:10 PM
  
Can we have an astrological portrait of what constitutes a good man? From experience/supposition? (I would prefer if you state which it is)I know the definition of a "good man" varies from person to person. I guess it would be good to state what a good man is to you, as well. Cleans after himself, opens the door, is supportive, offers multiple O, etc. The question is addressed to women and men as well. There, let's get started! ------------------
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manderin
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posted April 26, 2014 12:14 PM
Jupiter conjunct South Node is a great conjunction for promoting morality and conscience. It generally shows a good and moral person. Jupiter conjunct NN has the opposite effect.However this conjunction does not automatically make the person good for YOU and you can't tell everything from only one conjunction in a whole chart.
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Dancing Maenad
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posted April 26, 2014 12:16 PM
Interesting! I didn't mean re dating. Just in general. Would SN in Sag be similar? ------------------
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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 26, 2014 12:20 PM
I think it is very "customized", Dancing Maenad. Only by looking at your own chart, you can identify the good man for YOU.For example, if you check your 5th,7th,8th house rulers (house, sign, aspects, secondary houses), you can see which man makes you fall in love head over heals (5th house), which one is an ideal partner for you (7th) and which one is an ideal erotic partner (8th house). If you find a repetitive theme (like in my case, 5th/8th house ruler is the same), the better. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted April 26, 2014 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by manderin:
Jupiter conjunct South Node is a great conjunction for promoting morality and conscience. It generally shows a good and moral person. Jupiter conjunct NN has the opposite effect.However this conjunction does not automatically make the person good for YOU and you can't tell everything from only one conjunction in a whole chart.
What about Saturn conjunct SN, how would you interpret it, manderin? IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted April 26, 2014 12:44 PM
I think that depends what you want in a man.A partner, a provider, a lover, a friend? Maybe all?
But that's rare..
I guess you have to choose 1 or 2. IP: Logged |
Dancing Maenad
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posted April 26, 2014 01:31 PM
Eh. Not what I meant. ------------------
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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 26, 2014 01:45 PM
What do you mean then?  Because astrologically it should fit your chart. But if you ask me, I think the perfect man would have the whole chart activated, all the signs, he should have a planet/angle/major asteroid in each sign, an enlightened, perfect being  Possibly planets in domicile. For example, for me: Sun in Leo
Moon in Cancer
Mars in Scorpio
Venus in Taurus
Mercury in Aquarius
Jupiter in Aries
Saturn in Capricorn
Uranus in Libra
Pluto in Sagittarius
Neptune in Pisces
Ascendant in Virgo
Midheaven in Gemini all with nice aspects among them. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted April 26, 2014 01:55 PM
If you asked about favorite aspects in a man, for me it would be:intensity, especially Mars/Pluto
a deep emotional Moon - water
a sensual Venus - Earth, Cancer etc. or Venus in Aries
good cook or at least gourmand: Moon Uranus Jupiter, 6th house placements
a happy nature: Moon/Jupiter or at least his Moon in aspect to my Jupiter
reliable, stable: a prominent Saturn
open minded, nonconformist: something Uranian, like the node or ASC, or Uranus Mercury aspects, an Uranian mind
a dreamer/artist: Neptune to Moon and Venus, or in aspect with my Neptune
Fire and air for mind and action aspects and planets
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a lot of Scorpio everywhere
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next to neptune
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From: The Moon
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posted April 26, 2014 02:08 PM
Well I can recommend the pisces moon men, or men in general with pisces influence, cause they are genially nice and sweet and supportive…
---- cannot clean after themselves though!!!And libra influence in men is really a good partner, cause they totally want to satisfy YOU and yeah especially in bed too haha! I think good jupiter in the synastry makes for a supportive guy who would like you to be the best version of YOU but that's also just my opinion <3 IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted April 26, 2014 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I think good jupiter in the synastry makes for a supportive guy who would like you to be the best version of YOU but that's also just my opinion <3
Totally agree with this.
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charlie
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posted April 26, 2014 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by manderin:
Jupiter conjunct South Node is a great conjunction for promoting morality and conscience. It generally shows a good and moral person. Jupiter conjunct NN has the opposite effect.However this conjunction does not automatically make the person good for YOU and you can't tell everything from only one conjunction in a whole chart.
I ain't good. Jupiter conj. SN. I mean I have a very good heart but my brain is powerful and gets me in trouble, alot. IP: Logged |
Dancing Maenad
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posted April 26, 2014 02:50 PM
Thanks, what I meant is not about attraction or preference in relationships :/ Could we leave that aside for a second?What constitutes a good man, to YOU? It's not customized, or if it is, it's customized, for YOU. The answers I was hoping to receive were along the lines of.. I think a good man is such and such and has the astrological correspondence of such and such. I left you people to decide what you think is a good man. -_- Bad Mercury day? ------------------
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Dancing Maenad
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posted April 26, 2014 02:53 PM
Okay, let me give you an example of what a good man means to me. I think a good man has deep respect for women. Cherishes them, admires their femininity. Moon trine Jupiter, perhaps? Not sure about this but when I'll find one, I'll check his chart.
Etc. The traits and qualities you admire in men.
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next to neptune
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posted April 26, 2014 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by manderin:
Jupiter conjunct South Node is a great conjunction for promoting morality and conscience. It generally shows a good and moral person.
Ooohh… my boyfriend has his aqua north node opposite his leo jupiter, which means his south node is conjunct jupiter IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted April 26, 2014 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Okay, let me give you an example of what a good man means to me. I think a good man has deep respect for women. Cherishes them, admires their femininity. Moon trine Jupiter, perhaps? Not sure about this but when I'll find one, I'll check his chart.
What's wrong with bad boys? 
Just kiddin' Yes, it is a beautiful feature, what you are describing (men loving, respecting, understanding women), although I think it relates to harmonious aspects between Sun/Moon, Moon/Venus and Venus/Mars in his natal. Moon/Jupiter is more about having a happy, optimistic nature, but I could be wrong. OK, to go along your lines... I think a good, eligible man: has stable, deep, enduring feelings: a good Moon with strong aspects is mature enough not to have self-worth/self-control issues: this is usually the core problem of many relationship problems for men: an accomplished, integrated Saturn and Pluto has a sensitive, feminine side, his Anima is integrated: again, the Moon is the key here, I guess is hot in bed 
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manderin
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posted April 26, 2014 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What about Saturn conjunct SN, how would you interpret it, manderin?
This conjunction is more about a person's attitude towards work and towards social norms. It doesn't really tell you much about how they treat others. It MIGHT make a person a little more faithful to their partner because marriage is a social norm that provides security. This conjunction likes to search for security in restrictive patterns in social norms, but they often fail in achieving it. (marriage is a restrictive social norm in a sense because it means you are to be monogomous) Religion is another social norm that creates restriction. But overall this conjunction won't tell you much about whether a person is "good" or not. Jupiter is about morality so it's more of an indicator of how "good" a person is. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
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posted April 26, 2014 03:39 PM
I want someone who'd worship the me, what should I look for? ------------------
I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
ariestaurus
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posted April 26, 2014 03:52 PM
I consider my father the perfect partner. Now, I know how Freudian that sounds, but others agree. My mom is often told how lucky she is to have a great husband like my dad. He has Scorp sun in the 7th house
Venus conjunct Jupiter, Chiron, and Neptune in Libra.
Leo Moon conjunct Pluto
Mars conjunct Saturn in Cancer in the 4th house He treats my mother like gold. He NEVER yells at her, puts her down, etc. He treats her with the utmost respect, buys her flowers every month, does pretty much everything for his family. My mom is kind of crazy and has a bad temper, but he handles her well. He's also 13 years older than her, so I feel they have a parent-child kind of relationship in some ways, but he's not patronizing to her. He really hates conflict and compromises very easily (all that libra!). They've been married for 36 years, and they're inseparable. He's affectionate and warm towards her, and treats her like a princess. It's super cute!! IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted April 26, 2014 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by manderin:
This conjunction is more about a person's attitude towards work and towards social norms. It doesn't really tell you much about how they treat others. It MIGHT make a person a little more faithful to their partner because marriage is a social norm that provides security. This conjunction likes to search for security in restrictive patterns in social norms, but they often fail in achieving it. (marriage is a restrictive social norm in a sense because it means you are to be monogomous) Religion is another social norm that creates restriction. But overall this conjunction won't tell you much about whether a person is "good" or not. Jupiter is about morality so it's more of an indicator of how "good" a person is.
Thanks, manderin. So I understand Saturn/SN needs traditional structures to feel secure? But since he's moving away from his SN to his NN, couldn't this mean he rejects them?
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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 26, 2014 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I want someone who'd worship the me, what should I look for?
Just be yourself, Cappy, you are adorable anyway But I would look for his Venus in aspect to your Neptune, his planets in your 1st, planets to ASC, the classical Sun/Venus and Aphrodite aspects. And, of course, Amor, Valentine, Cupid aspects. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted April 26, 2014 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by ariestaurus:
I consider my father the perfect partner. Now, I know how Freudian that sounds, but others agree. My mom is often told how lucky she is to have a great husband like my dad. He has Scorp sun in the 7th house
Venus conjunct Jupiter, Chiron, and Neptune in Libra.
Leo Moon conjunct Pluto
Mars conjunct Saturn in Cancer in the 4th house He treats my mother like gold. He NEVER yells at her, puts her down, etc. He treats her with the utmost respect, buys her flowers every month, does pretty much everything for his family. My mom is kind of crazy and has a bad temper, but he handles her well. He's also 13 years older than her, so I feel they have a parent-child kind of relationship in some ways, but he's not patronizing to her. He really hates conflict and compromises very easily (all that libra!). They've been married for 36 years, and they're inseparable. He's affectionate and warm towards her, and treats her like a princess. It's super cute!!
That's cute! What are the love aspects between them? IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted April 26, 2014 04:09 PM
Yah agreeable ideas but bad boys are just for fun you know.I mean it's like keeping a shark in an aquarium it's just for the Novelty we don't actually love it And interact with it too much. As for being respectful that's relative IP: Logged |
ariestaurus
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posted April 26, 2014 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
That's cute! What are the love aspects between them?
Her Venus is conjunct his Sun and DC in Scorpio
Her Neptune conjunct his DC
His Venus sextile her Sun
Her Neptune conjunct his Sun
His Neptune sextile her Sun
His Pluto trine her Sun, Her Pluto sextile her Sun
His Pluto square her Venus
His Saturn trine her Mars
Her Saturn trine his Moon, sextile his VEnus
His Venus, Jupiter, Neptune, Chiron trine her Ascendant
His Moon trine her Sun
Her Sun, Moon, Mercury in his 8th house and in composite, they have a Moon/Venus/Neptune conjunction in Libra and Sun on the Descendant. My dad is pretty much incapable of being mean, rude, or selfish, so everyone likes him! IP: Logged |
manderin
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posted April 26, 2014 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thanks, manderin. So I understand Saturn/SN needs traditional structures to feel secure? But since he's moving away from his SN to his NN, couldn't this mean he rejects them?
YES it does reject them, but only subconsciously. Consciously he moves towards them and wants them.
When it comes to marriage I'm going to use Venus conj SN as an example because it's easier. Saturn conj Ketu is more about work and restrictive structures like religion etc.. I'll see if I can come up with an example for Saturn conj Ketu in a bit. So lets look at venus+ SN. Now this conjunction is considered bad, especially for men because it usually means the person has a hard time staying in a committed relationship. You might think that someone who has a hard time doing this does not actually want a committed relationship and has no interest in true love. But this is not the case. In fact the REASON why the native has so much trouble with finding true love is because he wants it TOO much. He has a distorted view of what true love really is. So when he meets someone he likes he sees her as a goddess. As someone amazing and he worships her... but eventually he comes to realize that she is no goddess. That she is human and therefore has flaws. Then he thinks to himself- Oh I made a bad choice! This is not my true love. My true love must be else where! So he finds another woman and it happens again... so he finds another woman and it happens again. This is why people with this conjunction often cheat after marriage. They want true love so badly and they keep chasing after it! But once they have their love for a while, they reject it. The native THINKS that it's because of the other person that it didn't work out, but in reality it was the native himself that detaches himself from true love. He doesn't realize that it's his unrealistic view of what real love this is to blame. So you can see how a person can reject something subconsciously while also moving desperately towards it in a conscious manner. IP: Logged |
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