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Enneline
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posted May 01, 2014 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,

what aspects (natal, synastry) could indicate someone falls in love with the wrong kind of person? "Wrong" not in terms of "too different, incompatible cultural backgrounds/ties, etc." but in terms of "he is gay and you are a girl" or "he is the husband of your best friend AND sister".

Any experiences?

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Kerosene
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posted May 01, 2014 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the cool thing about synastry if its strong enough you can be attracted to anyone

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Enneline
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posted May 01, 2014 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's the point but what makes a synastry that strong that gays turn to girls, sensible women to their sister's husband?

I once had a crush with a gay man and he had feelings for me as well: we had the classic sun-moon conjunction in our synastry and venus-mars conjunction in our composite. Also we shared some aspects; both we "enjoyed" sun/moon square in our natal charts.

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Enneline
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posted May 01, 2014 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe venus in aspect with Uranus does let you choose "uncommon" partners?

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Faith
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posted May 01, 2014 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
the cool thing about synastry if its strong enough you can be attracted to anyone

Within limits.

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Faith
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posted May 01, 2014 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Enneline:
I once had a crush with a gay man and he had feelings for me as well: we had the classic sun-moon conjunction in our synastry and venus-mars conjunction in our composite. Also we shared some aspects; both we "enjoyed" sun/moon square in our natal charts.

There you go, you just (partly) answered your own question. What was Uranus doing in synastry/composite?

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Enneline
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posted May 01, 2014 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Uranus was opposite his Mars (ruler of his sun and his 7th house); furthermore we had Uranus sextile Pluto and my Venus did quintile his Uranus Orb and my Uranus did quintile his Moon and his Uranus did sextile my Sun. In our composite we had Uranus trine Sun, Mercury and Saturn.
Strong attraction, inappropriate attraction but we never dated.


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Enneline
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posted May 01, 2014 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anyone else with Uranus aspects to their personal planets and or angles?

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aquaguy91
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posted May 01, 2014 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry is not an excuse to be immoral.

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Enneline
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posted May 01, 2014 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
of course not but maybe an explanation

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Ceridwen
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posted May 01, 2014 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having a crush doesn`t mean to be immoral.
There is a difference between feeling and acting.

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posted May 01, 2014 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Synastry is not an excuse to be immoral.

Judgmental much?

By "inappropriate", do you also include those between people of same blood?

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Plutonian_Gal8
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posted May 01, 2014 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Having a crush doesn`t mean to be immoral.
There is a difference between feeling and acting.

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yellowelevator
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posted May 01, 2014 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yellowelevator     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately I have this exact situation going on, for like over a year now. It's awful because you just KNOW you can't ever be with that person. This person has made me feel emotions inside that are so intense whenever I see them that it almost feels too unreal, and it's so uncomfortable to be around them. We have some crazy aspects in synastry, and surprisingly they are not really your typical sexual intense attraction ones like Venus con. Mars or Venus/Pluto etc. The main reason I feel so drawn to him ever since I met him a couple of years ago was because I sensed this really weird, explainable feeling as if I just kind of know them already, like a karmic connection. And after getting his birth time, it was confirmed to me that what I was feeling could not possibly be utter bull. We have things like DSC con. ASC, ASC/DSC con. Nodal axis, Moon exact con. NN, NN con. Neptune, a bunch of my planets in his 8th, Vertex con. DSC in Composite and Davison, Compo. Karma con. South Node, etc.

Anyways, I was researching about a particular aspect we have which is Eros con. DSC and Vertex in Composite and Davison, and I've read before that that aspect can contribute to being attracted to someone you shouldn't be, like an incest thing/Husband and sister in law.


Eros in Synastry Aspect with the Angles

"Eros here, if the birth times are accurate, presents its significance in awareness and sensation on a very personal level. Eros seldom hides in this position and both people involved are likely to be pleasurable or painfully aware of each other in an erotic sense. Pleasurable while they pursue an intimate or creative relationship, painful if the taboos or circumstances make it difficult to acknowledge each other in that way.

Proximity or contact with each other can touch off a sense of self-awareness as well as sensitivity to the other creating a powerful impact on the couple. Any synastry aspect to the Ascendant effects attraction, especially the conjunction, and when this planet is Eros, it can feel like magic. When it happens between parent and child, grandparent and grandchild, husband and sister-in-law or teacher and student, it feels sometimes ambivalent and sometimes like a wicked curse. In this case, creative ingenuity is required.

The two may find artistic ways of expressing their passion for each other through a common theme, or they may not. If the later is the case, and the association ongoing, the situation can become quite uncomfortable.

Parent/offspring relationships with this contact, especially the MC and IC conjunctions, can be fraught with sexual undertones and intense passions. Without objectivity, this synastry aspect can wreck havoc on an unsuspecting family. Weather these powerful feelings can be channeled into creative projects or not, the first step is to acknowledge the conflicting emotions involved without blame or guilt. Sometimes the recognition of such an aspect alone can trigger very useful dialog in a counseling or therapeutic situation.

The contact with the Ascendant/descendant axis seems to favor the creative outlet approach to relating, especially when sexual intimacy is extremely taboo or impossible. They may unite their ideas and collaborate in an artistic, therapeutic or literary sense making potent contributions in their field of creativity. They may also, if greater physical intimacy is explored, find the depths of sexual union the medium of their exploration. These contacts hold true for Eros conjunct or opposite the Ascendant, Descendant, MC and IC rulers as well."


After seeing that, I was like....crap, that's exactly the situation lol. so IMO, I think Eros can have something to do with sometimes.

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Enneline
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posted May 01, 2014 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AscTaurus:
Judgmental much?

By "inappropriate", do you also include those between people of same blood?


Yes

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posted May 01, 2014 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yellowelevator:
Unfortunately I have this exact situation going on, for like over a year now. It's awful because you just KNOW you can't ever be with that person. This person has made me feel emotions inside that are so intense whenever I see them that it almost feels too unreal, and it's so uncomfortable to be around them. We have some crazy aspects in synastry, and surprisingly they are not really your typical sexual intense attraction ones like Venus con. Mars or Venus/Pluto etc. The main reason I feel so drawn to him ever since I met him a couple of years ago was because I sensed this really weird, explainable feeling as if I just kind of know them already, like a karmic connection. And after getting his birth time, it was confirmed to me that what I was feeling could not possibly be utter bull. We have things like DSC con. ASC, ASC/DSC con. Nodal axis, Moon exact con. NN, NN con. Neptune, a bunch of my planets in his 8th, Vertex con. DSC in Composite and Davison, Compo. Karma con. South Node, etc.

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This sounds pretty tough.

I mean there must be an astrological explanation why stepbrother and stepsister or even halfbrother and halfsister can*t take their hands off...and why a straight man kisses a guy. You know what I mean, don*t you?

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barbriallen
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posted May 01, 2014 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for barbriallen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in 12h?

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barbriallen
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posted May 01, 2014 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for barbriallen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in 12h?

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posted May 01, 2014 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus/Uranus aspects in the composite or synastry - can signal the start of a strange, socially unacceptable, rebellious - attraction or relationship.

"Appropriate" sounds like Saturn... and "inappropriate" sounds like Uranus or maybe Pluto.

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what makes a synastry that strong that gays turn to girls

I have a gay friend who is into me. His Venus is exactly conj my Pluto.

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Marandana
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posted May 01, 2014 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marandana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think there's something in the chart that could actually pinpoint something like that, I mean, the chart wouldn't show: "He's forbidden to you cause he's married" for example, astrology doesn't go that far, I believe.

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Kerosene
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posted May 01, 2014 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^
Maybe he's bisexual

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Odette
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posted May 01, 2014 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well ^ I also think he might be bi.... but he won't admit to it.
I don't want to push the issue, because I'm happy being just friends anyway.
He is generally very into men and only wants to have a relationship with a man.

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yellowelevator
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posted May 01, 2014 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yellowelevator     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Enneline:
This sounds pretty tough.

I mean there must be an astrological explanation why stepbrother and stepsister or even halfbrother and halfsister can*t take their hands off...and why a straight man kisses a guy. You know what I mean, don*t you?


It is, but thankfully he lives in another state so I only see him like 3 times a year or so. But it's still intense when I do. But yeah I know what you mean lol. :/

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Kerosene
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posted May 02, 2014 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
Well ^ I also think he might be bi.... but he won't admit to it.
I don't want to push the issue, because I'm happy being just friends anyway.
He is generally very into men and only wants to have a relationship with a man.

Hmm now that I think about it I know of a lot of gay boys who have sex with their female friends....
Yeah the one I knew was a serious top though.. if both of them want to get laid by someone they trust than I guess whatever it does not seem inappropriate to me because hey it feels good.
Also satan and aids..


However a romantic relationship would be unlikely unless he was bi

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posted May 02, 2014 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kibriana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in 12th. Definitely Venus in 12th.

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