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LucieLemonade
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posted May 06, 2014 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus in Scorpio, but I'm not particularly jealous. I always give my SOs the freedom to do what they want and I expect the same thing.

If I have gotten jealous in the past is because I like someone who doesn't like me back. If I were to get jealous of an SO that would mean I didn't trust them and there would be no point in me being with them.

But it's good that you are learning to control your jealousy. Sometimes it is just a matter of trusting and letting go, knowing it's most likely in your own head.

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Gabby
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posted May 06, 2014 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
hehe niiice one…we are very very good at making games with each other, so this could be a part of a thing I could do, just doesn't hope the game is going too far :/

Don't let it, keep control of it by always bringing it back to you n him and don't focus on the other girls only about how sexy he is when your watching him!
Make him want to use the girls only to turn you on...they are nothing important in the game, only you and him! Make sure the way your looking at him as you watch him makes him want to run to you and forget all about her.

Then when he does tell him "No, go away, I just want to watch, but maybe I'll feel different later...if your good!"(your scorpio Venus/Pluto...this won't be hard for you)
Drive him crazy by not letting him have you while forcing him to flirt with others just so you can watch...n maybe eventually he can finally get you!

If you really want to drive him bonkers, mildly flirt with someone else as your playing the game with him.

If he doesn't get the game at first just keep trying and make it more obvious so he can't miss what's going on. If he still doesn't get it, then mention later when your alone how cute he was flirting with those girls n how it turned you on.
Then show him how much it turned you on(even if you have to fake it at first)
Eventually he will get it and this will turn the flirting problem into something fun n focused on you.
Even after/if you stop playing the game there will be good memories attached to it when you do see him flirting instead of it hurting you. This will help you learn to his flirting is just innocent/momentary and that's it's still all about you n him, alone! You get to keep your power instead if feeling like your losing it to some nobody girl and his love, desire and trust in you is strengthen instead of feeling like he can't make you happy.

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charlie
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posted May 06, 2014 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Ahhh, sometimes you just need new inputs from others and being social with other people?? of course your s.o. cannot satisfy your every need for human contact?:S

It's an aura of sorts. Unspoken words that only exist between two people that TRULY love eachother to death. It becomes a pact. Of course there should be input from social media and people but it stops there. These type of questions will never pop up in my ideal world. If they do, he and I are not a pact and will part ways.

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posted May 06, 2014 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I have Venus in Scorpio, but I'm not particularly jealous. I always give my SOs the freedom to do what they want and I expect the same thing.

If I have gotten jealous in the past is because I like someone who doesn't like me back. If I were to get jealous of an SO that would mean I didn't trust them and there would be no point in me being with them.

But it's good that you are learning to control your jealousy. Sometimes it is just a matter of trusting and letting go, knowing it's most likely in your own head.


how is your venus aspected and what house is it in? Sounds great that you're not jealous despite your scorpio venus… I'm not really the jealous type in friendships either, it has never really been a problem for me before I got into a longtherm relationship with a cheater… think he broke my trust in men a little

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posted May 06, 2014 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Don't let it, keep control of it by always bringing it back to you n him and don't focus on the other girls only about how sexy he is when your watching him!
Make him want to use the girls only to turn you on...they are nothing important in the game, only you and him! Make sure the way your looking at him as you watch him makes him want to run to you and forget all about her.

Then when he does tell him "No, go away, I just want to watch, but maybe I'll feel different later...if your good!"(your scorpio Venus/Pluto...this won't be hard for you)
Drive him crazy by not letting him have you while forcing him to flirt with others just so you can watch...n maybe eventually he can finally get you!

If you really want to drive him bonkers, mildly flirt with someone else as your playing the game with him.

If he doesn't get the game at first just keep trying and make it more obvious so he can't miss what's going on. If he still doesn't get it, then mention later when your alone how cute he was flirting with those girls n how it turned you on.
Then show him how much it turned you on(even if you have to fake it at first)
Eventually he will get it and this will turn the flirting problem into something fun n focused on you.
Even after/if you stop playing the game there will be good memories attached to it when you do see him flirting instead of it hurting you. This will help you learn to his flirting is just innocent/momentary and that's it's still all about you n him, alone! You get to keep your power instead if feeling like your losing it to some nobody girl and his love, desire and trust in you is strengthen instead of feeling like he can't make you happy.


sounds like an original idea! I'm gonna try at least… my s.o. is more into the intellectual flirt though… he has a gemini mars, and I can see he likes girls that is a bit smart in their mouth lol…

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posted May 06, 2014 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess it depends on how things are negotiated. I don't appreciate being lied to so if we agree we're not sleeping with other people and I find out he is, it's not cool. Honestly I can separate sex from emotions usually and don't try to trap ppl into commitments, so if things are "exclusive" just because he doesn't want me sleeping with other ppl but he can do whatever he wants, then it's just selfish.

And that goes for anything physical too... I've had someone tell me "it wasn't really cheating" because they didn't actually have sex. Ummmm, no. It's still cheating.

Flirting I try not to get too intense about but it depends on the situation. Having an intellectual/emotional connection is more threatening to me than physical attraction. If someone is "hotter" than me I can get over it, but if he thinks they're more interesting or intelligent then I'll be jealous.. Basically my Aqua venus in 8th is detached for the most part, but if I feel strongly about someone and feel betrayed by them I can be just as crazy as anyone else lol

Honestly in your situation I wouldn't let him get away with it if it bothers you. Also I wouldn't pass the blame onto her even though it is really shady... I'm a Sag moon and don't go around shamelessly flirting with people right in front of their SO's... But he should take some responsibility for allowing it to happen if he wouldn't like you doing the same thing...

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posted May 06, 2014 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
sounds like an original idea! I'm gonna try at least… my s.o. is more into the intellectual flirt though… he has a gemini mars, and I can see he likes girls that is a bit smart in their mouth lol…

I get that, I have a gemini mars also, my exe had a gemini mars n we used to play games like that together. It drove him crazy if we'd plan to meet somewhere n I'd show up n look a little nerdish, glasses n hair up in bun, I always have a book with me because I love to read.

Then i'd go sit somewhere n ignore him, only looking up every once in awhile n if he caught my eye I'd smile n then quickly turn away quickly like I was embarrassed(of course this was after we both knew the game, I wouldn't do that without him knowing, he's think I was being rude)

Eventually I'd make sure he was watching n casually take the bun out n toss the hair around n then continue reading n ignore him, of course still glancing up n when was looking n then quickly looking away n smile.

Guys are such dorks, but he adored that. Typical of a gemini mars we love to be entertained n a unique way, anyone that's not typical peeks our curiosity and interest.
He had fantasies about teachers & librarians, lol, but that might have been his capricorn Eros on his AC?

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LucieLemonade
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posted May 06, 2014 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
how is your venus aspected and what house is it in? Sounds great that you're not jealous despite your scorpio venus… I'm not really the jealous type in friendships either, it has never really been a problem for me before I got into a longtherm relationship with a cheater… think he broke my trust in men a little

I have Venus in the 12th, conj asc, 8 deg orb opp to Saturn, then only minor aspects. Semi-square merc & moon and semi-sextile sun & Uranus.

Funny that you mention friends. When I was a teen, I used to get super jealous of my best friend. She had other friends and didn't include me. Of course I say "my" best friend. I wasn't her best friend. It was so hard for me that I eventually had to cut her out of my life until I could figure out how to deal with the jealousy. It took years. I kid you not!

Maybe that's why? I just learned how to deal with it when I was young or as you say, I didn't have a cheating BF (not that I know of and if one of them did I don't want to know now!)

It could also be that I used it as sort of a radar. If I DO feel jealous, there had to be a reason, and that was probably the person wasn't trust worthy and (I think I said), sometimes it happened when I have a crush on someone and they don't like me back.

Honestly though, I think if anyone in my relationships so far were going to cheat, it probably would have been me. I'm much more of a flirt than any of my BFs have been.

PS, Wait! Let me just say that when we talk about "letting my SO do what he wants, I mean that I trust him to not cheat on me. Not that I'm tolerant of any open relationship. As FireMoon says, if we are exclusive, I expect that's how it will stay. So I trust him to go out into the world freely and not be a lying jerk!

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LucieLemonade
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posted May 06, 2014 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I get that, I have a gemini mars also, my exe had a gemini mars n we used to play games like that together. It drove him crazy if we'd plan to meet somewhere n I'd show up n look a little nerdish, glasses n hair up in bun, I always have a book with me because I love to read.

Then i'd go sit somewhere n ignore him, only looking up every once in awhile n if he caught my eye I'd smile n then quickly turn away quickly like I was embarrassed(of course this was after we both knew the game, I wouldn't do that without him knowing, he's think I was being rude)

Eventually I'd make sure he was watching n casually take the bun out n toss the hair around n then continue reading n ignore him, of course still glancing up n when was looking n then quickly looking away n smile.

Guys are such dorks, but he adored that. Typical of a gemini mars we love to be entertained n a unique way, anyone that's not typical peeks our curiosity and interest.
He had fantasies about teachers & librarians, lol, but that might have been his capricorn Eros on his AC?


Ok. I'm not usually into games even these types of fun games, but that's really cute!

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posted May 06, 2014 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Whatever he wants" is such a broad term.

So's flirting. Many people assume that just politely acknowledging someone's existence is a form of flirting while others don't think it's flirting until it approaches sexual harassment territory. I'd very much encourage the former (as otherwise he would come off as not caring about anyone unless he could get something out of the deal for himself and thus constantly looking for the ulterior motive to every nice thing he said or did) but not put up with the latter (unless it's obviously being silly). That said, all my Sag (including Eros) means I'm open to the idea of things like threesomes and polyamory (though I'd have some ground rules)...

Generally speaking I'm pretty laid back. I think it's all my Sag and not wanting to be smothered myself and expecting others to be trustworthy (if they're not then goodbye) and to have their own life so they don't get stale. I don't want to be a constant shadow or have a constant shadow. Which might also explain why I have to trust someone.

And I am inclined to trust (my 6H Cappie Lilith not withstanding) so that one cheater got away with it for a very long time simply because it took a hell of a lot for me to even suspect, and I assumed positive intentions for a lot of suspicious behavior that only became clear in hindsight.

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posted May 06, 2014 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
What in the natal or in the synastry indicates that you are willing to let your partner do whatever he wants and never being jealous at him or anything?

I feel this way. I put it down to Neptune/Pisces influence... Maybe my Mars conj Neptune in the 7th.

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posted May 06, 2014 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
What about him flirting with someone in front of you? Would you shrug at it?


Personally, I would shrug.

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posted May 06, 2014 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by happyaskings:
My mom is like this and she has a lot of Capricorn (sun/merc/venus) and Pisces (moon/mars) in her chart. Maybe her Sag ascendant has something to do with it.

Oh interesting! I have the same Pisces/Capricorn combination of signs, with a Gemini AC.

The reason I feel this way is that I want the people around me to be reasonably happy while they're alive, at least in as far as their happiness is in my hands.
I don't like causing dramas and emotional pain for others. Making an issue out of flirting seems petty to me.
It's such a small thing, when so many seriously painful things happen in life. Why sweat the small stuff?
Sexual/Romantic things in general seems like "small stuff" to me(unless we are talking about rape or abuse). I don't worry about it. I just let things unfold.

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next to neptune
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posted May 09, 2014 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I get that, I have a gemini mars also, my exe had a gemini mars n we used to play games like that together. It drove him crazy if we'd plan to meet somewhere n I'd show up n look a little nerdish, glasses n hair up in bun, I always have a book with me because I love to read.

Then i'd go sit somewhere n ignore him, only looking up every once in awhile n if he caught my eye I'd smile n then quickly turn away quickly like I was embarrassed(of course this was after we both knew the game, I wouldn't do that without him knowing, he's think I was being rude)

Eventually I'd make sure he was watching n casually take the bun out n toss the hair around n then continue reading n ignore him, of course still glancing up n when was looking n then quickly looking away n smile.

Guys are such dorks, but he adored that. Typical of a gemini mars we love to be entertained n a unique way, anyone that's not typical peeks our curiosity and interest.
He had fantasies about teachers & librarians, lol, but that might have been his capricorn Eros on his AC?


It was really a wonderful advice and it worked!
I analyzed her behavior a little and tried to act more like she did… actually I found out that my boyfriend wasn't really impressed by that lol. He kind of got annoyed with her in the end, because she was a bit "too touchy" I think. He didn't say that, but it was clearly that he began to avoid her and was sticking by my side all the time:P I tried to act more free and didn't care at all, and it really worked so damn much. Whenever he was walking away and talking with someone else, I just began talking with other guys and impressed them easily, and that made him curious and clingy lol! I think it was sweet, and nice that we can give each other total trust and let each other talk with whoever we want, but still knowing that we both think we are "the greatest pair" and it is the most interesting to be by each others side…
Of course I was not out to make him jealous by talking with other guys, I just wanted to test how he reacted and he gave me a lot of attention overall so I don't think this girl is any thread at all and not anyone else either… I really love my man, he is amazing <3

It was a wonderful advice, I really think I have learned how to handle this now

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