posted May 09, 2014 11:54 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Selene, I'm just curious, do you have something near Venus or Uranus, like other planet or important asteroid, so that a conjunction midpoint could form a tighter square? Also, do you have a geometrical configuration in which this square might be involved?

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posted May 09, 2014 01:06 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Ceri, don't you think that contraparallel (how close in orb?) and that midpoint situation should make your trine valid? Is the trine part of some midpoint/other astrobody closed configuration?

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I am pondering about this actually. However I DO think that the contraparallel on its own count for something. It is not quite the same as having a trine though.

posted May 09, 2014 01:15 PM            

Well, I still am not that much of a party-girl as this midpoint might make one inclined to think. But maybe the participants have to be taken into account, and Venus in Capricorn, Uranus in SCorpio and Jupiter in Pisces do not sound that much like "partystuff".

It still makes itself felt I suppose in that to fall in love I need that electric spark and enthusiasm and the "let`s embrace the world" kind of feeling.

posted May 09, 2014 03:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am pondering about this actually. However I DO think that the contraparallel on its own count for something. It is not quite the same as having a trine though.

I find the Uranus-Pluto-theme is supported though, as my Moon is in Aquarius AND parallel Uranus; Its dispositor is in Scorpio AND contraparallel Pluto.
So I would say yes, ther is a Moon-Pluto (uranus)-theme, which I have inherited by my parents btw, but no, it is not because of the wide orbed trine.
I might have counted the trine if Moon and Pluto were part of an aspect configuration, but they aren`t.
My rule of thumb is that I would maybe, just maybe, count a wide trine like this, if there was some other planets in degrees in between and nearer to the middle (aka between 9 and 17 degrees, but there aren`t. While tre is Neptune on 10 Sag and Saturn on 16.57 Cancer, there is nothing really going on on degrees between 11-15 in my chart, it is a blank, a black hole, an empty space, and i think that in itself is significant).

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posted May 10, 2014 09:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Selene:
No, i actually don't, that's the thing. Venus is conjunct Mercury, so Mercury squares Uranus by 6 degrees. And it is a closest aspect Uranus makes, apart from conjuncting Neptune, also by 6. Other than that, nothing. I don't believe that Aquarius NN and Moon, Jupiter & SN in 11th house could do the trick, just don't.

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posted May 10, 2014 10:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I also find that singletons show very strongly in one`s personality.

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Do you consider yourself Venusian?

posted May 10, 2014 11:31 AM            

"But now that I think about it, it will probably be activated, or more like reinforced, since you already have the theme, by someone putting something, let's say on the Moon (like an Aqua Sun? lol, just kiddin') closer in orb to Pluto, thus catching the Moon in the trine."
Yes, I think so, too.

I mean three of the performers I really do admire, though it feels more personal than simple admiration, have their SAPPHO conjunct my Moon.
The first one has it exactly on my Moon on 17 Aquarius (and falling onto his SN). It doesn`t catch the Pluto therefore.
The second one has it on 15 Aquarius, widely trine the Pluto probably, but actually is more emphasizing his Saturn on my Karma on 16 Gemini.

Mr Sag however - I always wondered why his Sappho was so widely connected.
His Sappho is on 13 Aquarius, and that is the exact midpoint of my 17 degree Moon and 9 degree Pluto (degree-wise, not in terms of signs; my Moon/Pluto-mp is on 13 Sagittarius).
Interestingly HIS Pluto is conjunct MY Sappho exact and widely trine my Moon (4 degrees). But without a doubt it is him I showed the most intense reaction to probably.

A fourth performer I admired has his Sappho on 21 Cancer, exact on my Vertex, Eros and Sun/Moon-mp square my own Sappho.

I am pretty sure the Sappho connections mean *something* and try to tell me something.
My own Sappho is on 21 Libra conjunct DNA and MUSA in my 10th house and obviously opposing my Chiron and squaring my Sun/Moon-mp, Vertex, Eros, DEstinn and the like.

Actually I remember one open air musical when one performer came down the stage and directly to me to kiss my hand, mumbling something about beauty and getting back on stage and continuing. Well of course it was part of the show, but it took me by surprise, and as a matter of fact several in the audience were later talking to me expressing some form of goodnatured envy.
It was just a joke, and it only later dawned on me, that this performer must have spotted me before, as it turned out we had been staying at the same hotel. Maybe he saw me there before, even though I did not take any notice of him. lol

Anyway, I am not telling this to show off in some way, but I was checking his chart once, and it turned out the guy had a triple conjunction of Venus-Mars-Sappho from 17-20 Gemini.

And a the time of this small event my pr Aphrodite was on 19 Libra (near my DNA and Sappho), my pr Mercury-Venus on 18 Aquarius.
While his pr Adonis was exactly conjunct my natal Aphrodite.

Well, I am pretty sure he is gay, but the astrological configuration was strong enough to ignite some spark of "attention", it seems.

But yeah, Sappho again, though I haven`t found Sappho to ONLY be important in terms of homosexuality, actually it seems like there is an intensely passionate sexual vibe coming with it, but refined somehow, expressed in artistic ways, or seeking creative expression.

"Regarding that Venus/Jupiter/Uranus on Jupiter/Uranus mdp, I think, based on your posts, that it really suits you, it even defines you somehow: you seem to need an "exhilarating" (Uranus/Jupiter) feeling to feel you fall in love "
Yes, that is true actually.
And I need someone to be more outgoing, more extrovert than I am, more carefree, maybe as a balance to my serious nature, which can get a bit too "dark" at times.

posted May 10, 2014 11:37 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Do you consider yourself Venusian?

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I donīt believe pure Venusian or Martian or whatever exists.

However I DO identify myself as Venusian-Saturnian, which fits the Venus in Capricorn. Actually I always wondered how that Venus can be SO strong in my personality, overshadowing even my Sagittarius-planets at times. She is definitely calling the shots in love-matters in my life.

But then I have Saturn in Cancer as singleton as well.

Oh and peregrine Sun and Moon and Uranus.

And angular Neptune and Pluto.

Sometimes it seems like very planet wants to play a quirky unique challenging major role in my life.

The only really integrated planet seems to be Mars and Jupiter sometimes, and Mars is in 12th house. lol

Sun and Mercure are a duet, unaspected.
Moon is unaspected though of course the quinkunx to Saturn makes itself felt so much, but traditionally it would be considered unaspected or peregrine (Noel Tyl`s definition).
Venus is not unaspected, but the only planet in earth - so singleton.
Saturn is the only planet on the Western hemisphere, the handle of my bucket - a singleton.
Uranus is unaspected, placed right on the cusp of 11th house - singleton.
Neptune is VERY aspected, and angular on ASC and NN.
Pluto is VERY aspected and angular on MC.

posted May 10, 2014 11:42 AM            

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I donīt believe pure Venusian or Martian or whatever exists.

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