posted May 11, 2014 03:57 PM            

Or just believing in love without labels?

posted May 12, 2014 06:13 AM            

Personal examples I know of:
A man with Venus opposite Pluto (Pluto in 8H)
A woman with Mars square Pluto (Pluto also possibly in 8H)

posted May 12, 2014 07:09 AM            

It always, always, always comes up consistently-without fail.

The inability to recognize "boundaries", adhere to societal "rules" and conform to "norms" is how people are labeled "different". And are condemned for it.

But I think that this is due to human conscious evolution and the desire to break boundaries and not conform.(The Adam and Eve synopsis played over and over again).

Sexuality, however, is one "difference" that the world has chosen to focus on now. There will be others-as we evolve- I assure you.

It could be any aspects, any at all. As each can yield a conscious desire to do away with boundaries.

These aspects are;

Mars aspects to Asc, Sun, Moon and Venus:
"I do what I want and I follow my own passions".

In women, these aspect will make them appear "different" and stand out as being "troublesome" because they often can be challenging and are accused of assuming the roles of males.

In men,it can create a sort of domineering "alpha male" personality.

This may also filter out to sexuality/ same sex attraction; as there are rules and regulations to be adhered in this area too that the individual will rebel against.

Neptune aspects to Asc,Sun Moon,Venus,Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus: "There is no "you" and no "me". Only "US" "

Neptune can dissolve all things that make up reality; including societal norms and rules.

Uranus aspects to Asc, Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn:"Can we do something different for a change?"

Perhaps the strongest of all indicators of someone who really doesn't care to conform. Even to societal norms of sexuality and attractions.

posted May 13, 2014 04:23 PM            

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Originally posted by lifefullofwords:
Uranus contacting Venus or Mars, in one of the relationship houses, or in aspects to the rulers of those houses.

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Originally posted by lifefullofwords:
Also, in terms of asteroids, Sappho, Diana, Minerva and sometimes Pallas and Athena are often prominent in the chart of bisexual and lesbian women. I've read Eros and Ganymede are common in the charts of gay and bi men but I haven't checked enough charts to be sure that's true.[/B]

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Actually, Pluto aspects to Venus or Mars, as well as 8H placements can also indicate that.

Personal examples I know of:
A man with Venus opposite Pluto (Pluto in 8H)
A woman with Mars square Pluto (Pluto also possibly in 8H)

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
This topic will never catch a break

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It always, always, always comes up consistently-without fail.

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The inability to recognize "boundaries", adhere to societal "rules" and conform to "norms" is how people are labeled "different". And are condemned for it.

But I think that this is due to human conscious evolution and the desire to break boundaries and not conform.(The Adam and Eve synopsis played over and over again).

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That basically eliminates no-one. All the populations of the world are "different". But , unfortunately for those who are the collective "repulsive" different(gays, feminists,"soft" men,reformists and revolutionists etc) the world burns those at the stake.

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posted May 13, 2014 04:39 PM            

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That's true. I think everyone is bisexual in some way- if they're 99% straight, there's that other 1%. And the world may burn those progressivists, but these revolutionaries are also the ones that light up the world...

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Sigmund Frued made the theory that all human beings are born bisexual and based on environmental influences, the baby will then become heterosexual, homosexual or just remain bisexual. I agree with this theory.

posted May 13, 2014 09:23 PM            

Honestly, I've tried looking into charts of people with "abnormal" sexual orientation but no, there's nothing similar.

posted May 13, 2014 10:28 PM            

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posted May 13, 2014 11:00 PM            

Pluto in scorpio definitely indicates a generation that is far more in tune with raw human sexuality than others.
As Pluto in Scorpio is Domicile.

Being gay-bi- or whatever is for the most part natural occurrence for Pluto in Scorpio, not something that needs to be considered positive or negative, but just is...

to be blunt.. I like everything lol and my Pluto is a singleton and so is my domicile mars so my sexuality is more raw and prominent and not closed to certain ideals.
So in turn Ive never need to explain or question my sexuality it just is what it is and it's in your face.

I noticed people who have Pluto in signs other than scorpio tend to box anything other than heterosexuality as abnormal and needs to be something of intrigue, speculation, and controversy lol

However a prominent pluto can change this .

My mother has Scorpio moon/neptune and pluto conjunct north node and square SUN/ASC
and my dad has Mars-Mercury-Venus conjunct pluto. and North node in Scorpio

posted May 13, 2014 11:20 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
I don't go by typical indicators such as Uranus aspects Venus/Mars/Relationships houses because it's much more complicated than that. I have Venus opposite Uranus, Mars trine Uranus/Neptune, Uranus trine 5th etc but I don't identify with Pansexual, bisexual or homosexual. I identify with the idea that sexuality is more fluid than stagnant.

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posted May 14, 2014 12:01 AM            

If someone is gay or bi etc and has some outer planet aspects makes it a lot easier because they themselves are able to accept their sexuality which disrupts the norm than someone who has zero contacts and is probably very closeted or insecure about being different.

I have Mars square neptune and uranus within 1 degree.
and inconjunct Pluto

Venus square Jupiter within 1 degree

which all definitely helps because i never felt the need to hide my preferences because I have very progressive ideals for love and sexuality, if people are curious I'll usually tell them the truth even if it may be a disadvantage to me.

and my s.o has Venus square Uranus-Neptune 1-2 degrees
and Mars square Jupiter.. 3 degrees

posted May 14, 2014 10:13 AM            

For example, today (May 14th, 2014) Venus is aspecting Uranus, that's like saying all babies born today will be gay, bi or may have a chance of being LGBT, and that's not true.

I know many people with Mars/Uranus and Venus/Uranus aspects who aren't gay... The real question becomes: Would they try experimenting with the same-sex because of those aspects? We don't know!

posted May 14, 2014 01:24 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:

Honestly, I think a lot more people would be bi/homosexual if we were socialized to know that it's completely normal and ok. Unfortunately, we are not. For our entire childhood, we only see heterosexual couples. Women are even socialized into dreaming about weddings and bring mothers.

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posted May 14, 2014 01:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Libracorn:

I know many people with Mars/Uranus and Venus/Uranus aspects who aren't gay... The real question becomes: Would they try experimenting with the same-sex because of those aspects? We don't know!

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posted May 14, 2014 03:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Libracorn:
Yeah, I don't really agree with the Venus/Uranus, Mars/Uranus aspects at all, or just aspects pointing to LGBT period.

For example, today (May 14th, 2014) Venus is aspecting Uranus, that's like saying all babies born today will be gay, bi or may have a chance of being LGBT, and that's not true.

I know many people with Mars/Uranus and Venus/Uranus aspects who aren't gay... The real question becomes: Would they try experimenting with the same-sex because of those aspects? We don't know!

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posted May 14, 2014 04:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Libracorn:
Yeah, I don't really agree with the Venus/Uranus, Mars/Uranus aspects at all, or just aspects pointing to LGBT period.

For example, today (May 14th, 2014) Venus is aspecting Uranus, that's like saying all babies born today will be gay, bi or may have a chance of being LGBT, and that's not true.

I know many people with Mars/Uranus and Venus/Uranus aspects who aren't gay... The real question becomes: Would they try experimenting with the same-sex because of those aspects? We don't know!

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