posted May 16, 2014 01:45 PM            

Guess what my father is?

I have jupiter in capricorn in the 8th...guess who shares everything with me? Even a job?

Matters of the 8th are brought to the sixth house which is occupied by scorpio an saturn - who is the ruler of the 8th.

Guess what my jobs have been mostly? I'll give you a hint: insurance and collections.

posted May 16, 2014 03:21 PM            

My sun conjunct mercury and saturn in 10th.

My father worked as an engineer for a television station.

Once we moved to America, he worked at Walmart...

posted May 16, 2014 04:00 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
I didn't know neptune rules medicine.
But would that mean anyone with sun conjunct neptune has physician father? I don't think so.

My sun conjunct mercury and saturn in 10th.

My father worked as an engineer for a television station.

Once we moved to America, he worked at Walmart...

That said, my sister has sun conjunct mars in 10th. How are we explaining that...

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No...It means the father was either absent, addicted, experienced by the son in terms of dellusion or ideals, or inspiring, or a healer either in the arts or in medicine.

All the planets have positive and negatives...my father was primarily absent but he didn't abandon me...he simply had to work all the time.

I would say that sun conjunct mars would be a person who works as a cop, or manager early on...or had a father who has a prominent position and a place...so the manager of wall-mart..or was a disciplinarian...

posted May 16, 2014 04:01 PM            

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Originally posted by cappy1277:
My 4th house ruler is leo (sun) and my sun is in the 9th place. My mother is from another country overseas.

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posted May 16, 2014 04:59 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I have sun conj neptune and my father was not in medicine or anything like that.

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posted May 16, 2014 06:52 PM            

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Originally posted by cappy1277:
4th house is the mother, ruler of my 4th house is the sun which is placed in my 9th house (foreign cultures, higher education etc).

Using the house rulers and not the aspects and planets brings this conclusion.

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posted May 16, 2014 07:05 PM            

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Originally posted by AlexDern:
I have sun conjunct neptune with a wide orb: neptune rules medicine and the sun rules the father and they are in my 7th and 8th house.

Guess what my father is?

I have jupiter in capricorn in the 8th...guess who shares everything with me? Even a job?

Matters of the 8th are brought to the sixth house which is occupied by scorpio an saturn - who is the ruler of the 8th.

Guess what my jobs have been mostly? I'll give you a hint: insurance and collections.

Is this kind of strange? It's hard not to believe...yet it's also hard too believe.

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"I have sun conjunct neptune with a wide orb: neptune rules medicine and the sun rules the father and they are in my 7th and 8th house."

posted May 16, 2014 09:24 PM            

I have sun square neptune and Moon square neptune. Neptune rules my 4th. My dad is a cap sun with moon in virgo and I have sun in virgo in the 10th. My mom is a cap sun with moon in taurus (stubborn and controlling) with jupiter in pisces in the 10th; she is very religious.

My dad is a psychologist but had his own business that he inherited from his dad for a long time. He is again a psychologist.

My mom is a doctor and specialized most of her life with children...she has neptune and saturn in the 5th and CERES conjunct exact approaching her sun .

posted May 16, 2014 11:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
"I have sun conjunct neptune with a wide orb: neptune rules medicine and the sun rules the father and they are in my 7th and 8th house."

I also have Sun/Merc conjunct Neptune, Sun/Merc in 2nd and Neptune in 3rd....
My dad is a loser that never communicated enough to even call me n now I need medication for my head in order to feel secure?
There coming to take me away, haha there coming to take me away hohohehehaha....to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time

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posted May 16, 2014 11:26 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
My parents are both caps and both career oriented but my mom is a lot more driven and is the workaholic out of two. My dad balances home and work naturally and almost did not marry my mom bc he knew she was a workaholic and did not like this but he had a very intense spiritual experience that lead him to marry her. I am my dad's only biological daughter.

I have sun square neptune and Moon square neptune. Neptune rules my 4th. My dad is a cap sun with moon in virgo and I have sun in virgo in the 10th. My mom is a cap sun with moon in taurus (stubborn and controlling) with jupiter in pisces in the 10th; she is very religious.

My dad is a psychologist but had his own business that he inherited from his dad for a long time. He is again a psychologist.

My mom is a doctor and specialized most of her life with children...she has neptune and saturn in the 5th and CERES conjunct exact approaching her sun .

Add: from ages 10 throughout my teenage years bc of work my dad was absent a lot but he visited frequently. My parents are still married and have always been very committed.....two caps ofcourse!

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posted May 16, 2014 11:36 PM            

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Originally posted by AlexDern:
Sounds like very positive Neptunian aspects that presented a challenge! Did you ever feel pressure to go into the medical field?

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posted May 17, 2014 12:09 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Sun conj neptune in the 12th. Ruler of the 4th house - venus is also in the 12th. My parents are successful and driven. They both are interested in metaphysical studies. They were kinda "absent" throughout my childhood, both emotionally and physically.

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posted May 17, 2014 12:10 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by AlexDern:
[b] Sounds like very positive Neptunian aspects that presented a challenge! Did you ever feel pressure to go into the medical field?

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To be honest neuroscience and autonomy is not what I like spending hours reading...Its interesting but medicine would require more discipline from me that I want to engage in. [/B][/QUOTE]

Well neither was I. Good show I guess.

posted May 17, 2014 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by AlexDern:
Was he an English teacher, writer, or anything to do with the sea, water, or emotions?

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posted May 17, 2014 02:30 PM            

Mamihlapinatapei (Yagan, an indigenous language of Tierra del Fuego): The wordless yet meaningful look shared by two people who desire to initiate something, but are both reluctant to start.

Oh yes, this is an exquisite word, compressing a thrilling and scary relationship moment. It’s that delicious, cusp-y moment of imminent seduction. Neither of you has mustered the courage to make a move, yet. Hands haven’t been placed on knees; you’ve not kissed. But you’ve both conveyed enough to know that it will happen soon… very soon.

Yuanfen (Chinese): A relationship by fate or destiny. This is a complex concept. It draws on principles of predetermination in Chinese culture, which dictate relationships, encounters and affinities, mostly among lovers and friends.

From what I glean, in common usage yuanfen means the "binding force" that links two people together in any relationship.

But interestingly, “fate” isn’t the same thing as “destiny.” Even if lovers are fated to find each other they may not end up together. The proverb, “have fate without destiny,” describes couples who meet, but who don’t stay together, for whatever reason. It’s interesting, to distinguish in love between the fated and the destined. Romantic comedies, of course, confound the two.

Cafuné (Brazilian Portuguese): The act of tenderly running your fingers through someone's hair.

Retrouvailles (French): The happiness of meeting again after a long time.

This is such a basic concept, and so familiar to the growing ranks of commuter relationships, or to a relationship of lovers, who see each other only periodically for intense bursts of pleasure. I’m surprised we don’t have any equivalent word for this subset of relationship bliss. It’s a handy one for modern life.

Ilunga (Bantu): A person who is willing to forgive abuse the first time; tolerate it the second time, but never a third time.

Apparently, in 2004, this word won the award as the world’s most difficult to translate. Although at first, I thought it did have a clear phrase equivalent in English: It’s the “three strikes and you’re out” policy. But ilunga conveys a subtler concept, because the feelings are different with each “strike.” The word elegantly conveys the progression toward intolerance, and the different shades of emotion that we feel at each stop along the way.

Ilunga captures what I’ve described as the shade of gray complexity in marriages—Not abusive marriages, but marriages that involve infidelity, for example. We’ve got tolerance, within reason, and we’ve got gradations of tolerance, and for different reasons. And then, we have our limit. The English language to describe this state of limits and tolerance flattens out the complexity into black and white, or binary code. You put up with it, or you don’t. You “stick it out,” or not.

Ilunga restores the gray scale, where many of us at least occasionally find ourselves in relationships, trying to love imperfect people who’ve failed us and whom we ourselves have failed.

La Douleur Exquise (French): The heart-wrenching pain of wanting someone you can’t have.

When I came across this word I thought of “unrequited” love. It’s not quite the same, though. “Unrequited love” describes a relationship state, but not a state of mind. Unrequited love encompasses the lover who isn’t reciprocating, as well as the lover who desires. La douleur exquise gets at the emotional heartache, specifically, of being the one whose love is unreciprocated.

Koi No Yokan (Japanese): The sense upon first meeting a person that the two of you are going to fall into love.

This is different than “love at first sight,” since it implies that you might have a sense of imminent love, somewhere down the road, without yet feeling it. The term captures the intimation of inevitable love in the future, rather than the instant attraction implied by love at first sight.

Ya’aburnee (Arabic): “You bury me.” It’s a declaration of one’s hope that they’ll die before another person, because of how difficult it would be to live without them.

The online dictionary that lists this word calls it “morbid and beautiful.” It’s the “How Could I Live Without You?” slickly insincere cliché of dating, polished into a more earnest, poetic term.

Forelsket: (Norwegian): The euphoria you experience when you’re first falling in love.

This is a wonderful term for that blissful state, when all your senses are acute for the beloved, the pins and needles thrill of the novelty. There’s a phrase in English for this, but it’s clunky. It’s “New Relationship Energy,” or NRE.

Saudade (Portuguese): The feeling of longing for someone that you love and is lost. Another linguist describes it as a "vague and constant desire for something that does not and probably cannot exist."

It’s interesting that saudade accommodates in one word the haunting desire for a lost love, or for an imaginary, impossible, never-to-be-experienced love. Whether the object has been lost or will never exist, it feels the same to the seeker, and leaves her in the same place: She has a desire with no future. Saudade doesn’t distinguish between a ghost, and a fantasy. Nor do our broken hearts, much of the time.

posted May 17, 2014 03:37 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:

Saudade (Portuguese): The feeling of longing for someone that you love and is lost. Another linguist describes it as a "vague and constant desire for something that does not and probably cannot exist."

It’s interesting that saudade accommodates in one word the haunting desire for a lost love, or for an imaginary, impossible, never-to-be-experienced love. Whether the object has been lost or will never exist, it feels the same to the seeker, and leaves her in the same place: She has a desire with no future. Saudade doesn’t distinguish between a ghost, and a fantasy. Nor do our broken hearts, much of the time.

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Though it's not only about love, it's also about a place, a home, a country, friends, family, being and belonging.

posted May 17, 2014 07:30 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by amelia28:
[b]
Saudade (Portuguese): The feeling of longing for someone that you love and is lost. Another linguist describes it as a "vague and constant desire for something that does not and probably cannot exist."

It’s interesting that saudade accommodates in one word the haunting desire for a lost love, or for an imaginary, impossible, never-to-be-experienced love. Whether the object has been lost or will never exist, it feels the same to the seeker, and leaves her in the same place: She has a desire with no future. Saudade doesn’t distinguish between a ghost, and a fantasy. Nor do our broken hearts, much of the time.

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Though it's not only about love, it's also about a place, a home, a country, friends, family, being and belonging.

Thanks for the link! [/B][/QUOTE]

That is one of the words that I can relate to the most as someone with moon in pisces in the 4th that is also part of a tsquare with neptune and sun. Neptune rules my 4th and Sun rules my 9th....

Thanks for pointing out that word does not just refer to romantic love but also to home, country, friends and family bc that is how it is for me.

I guess the closest word in English would be nostalgia in relation to loss and longing what has been lost......

posted May 17, 2014 11:39 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
AlexDern You said you love learning new words so I am sharing some words I stumbled upon that I find fascinating with you:

Mamihlapinatapei (Yagan, an indigenous language of Tierra del Fuego): The wordless yet meaningful look shared by two people who desire to initiate something, but are both reluctant to start.

Oh yes, this is an exquisite word, compressing a thrilling and scary relationship moment. It’s that delicious, cusp-y moment of imminent seduction. Neither of you has mustered the courage to make a move, yet. Hands haven’t been placed on knees; you’ve not kissed. But you’ve both conveyed enough to know that it will happen soon… very soon.

Yuanfen (Chinese): A relationship by fate or destiny. This is a complex concept. It draws on principles of predetermination in Chinese culture, which dictate relationships, encounters and affinities, mostly among lovers and friends.

From what I glean, in common usage yuanfen means the "binding force" that links two people together in any relationship.

But interestingly, “fate” isn’t the same thing as “destiny.” Even if lovers are fated to find each other they may not end up together. The proverb, “have fate without destiny,” describes couples who meet, but who don’t stay together, for whatever reason. It’s interesting, to distinguish in love between the fated and the destined. Romantic comedies, of course, confound the two.

Cafuné (Brazilian Portuguese): The act of tenderly running your fingers through someone's hair.

Retrouvailles (French): The happiness of meeting again after a long time.

This is such a basic concept, and so familiar to the growing ranks of commuter relationships, or to a relationship of lovers, who see each other only periodically for intense bursts of pleasure. I’m surprised we don’t have any equivalent word for this subset of relationship bliss. It’s a handy one for modern life.

Ilunga (Bantu): A person who is willing to forgive abuse the first time; tolerate it the second time, but never a third time.

Apparently, in 2004, this word won the award as the world’s most difficult to translate. Although at first, I thought it did have a clear phrase equivalent in English: It’s the “three strikes and you’re out” policy. But ilunga conveys a subtler concept, because the feelings are different with each “strike.” The word elegantly conveys the progression toward intolerance, and the different shades of emotion that we feel at each stop along the way.

Ilunga captures what I’ve described as the shade of gray complexity in marriages—Not abusive marriages, but marriages that involve infidelity, for example. We’ve got tolerance, within reason, and we’ve got gradations of tolerance, and for different reasons. And then, we have our limit. The English language to describe this state of limits and tolerance flattens out the complexity into black and white, or binary code. You put up with it, or you don’t. You “stick it out,” or not.

Ilunga restores the gray scale, where many of us at least occasionally find ourselves in relationships, trying to love imperfect people who’ve failed us and whom we ourselves have failed.

La Douleur Exquise (French): The heart-wrenching pain of wanting someone you can’t have.

When I came across this word I thought of “unrequited” love. It’s not quite the same, though. “Unrequited love” describes a relationship state, but not a state of mind. Unrequited love encompasses the lover who isn’t reciprocating, as well as the lover who desires. La douleur exquise gets at the emotional heartache, specifically, of being the one whose love is unreciprocated.

Koi No Yokan (Japanese): The sense upon first meeting a person that the two of you are going to fall into love.

This is different than “love at first sight,” since it implies that you might have a sense of imminent love, somewhere down the road, without yet feeling it. The term captures the intimation of inevitable love in the future, rather than the instant attraction implied by love at first sight.

Ya’aburnee (Arabic): “You bury me.” It’s a declaration of one’s hope that they’ll die before another person, because of how difficult it would be to live without them.

The online dictionary that lists this word calls it “morbid and beautiful.” It’s the “How Could I Live Without You?” slickly insincere cliché of dating, polished into a more earnest, poetic term.

Forelsket: (Norwegian): The euphoria you experience when you’re first falling in love.

This is a wonderful term for that blissful state, when all your senses are acute for the beloved, the pins and needles thrill of the novelty. There’s a phrase in English for this, but it’s clunky. It’s “New Relationship Energy,” or NRE.

Saudade (Portuguese): The feeling of longing for someone that you love and is lost. Another linguist describes it as a "vague and constant desire for something that does not and probably cannot exist."

It’s interesting that saudade accommodates in one word the haunting desire for a lost love, or for an imaginary, impossible, never-to-be-experienced love. Whether the object has been lost or will never exist, it feels the same to the seeker, and leaves her in the same place: She has a desire with no future. Saudade doesn’t distinguish between a ghost, and a fantasy. Nor do our broken hearts, much of the time.

Reference http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/23Cz7H/bigthink.com/ideas/41152?page=all/?_notoolbar

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Amelia28...what beautiful words! I've read them all. The first word was particularly intense. I have felt that sort of tension before I believe as a youngster (I'm probably still kind of young but not a youngster for certain).

I am book marking this page. Each word above is a different spark off the Eternal Lovers' Eternal Tryst. It dips in every culture and creates artifacts of light in all shapes and hues of the romance rainbow.

I find it particularly interesting that many of these words contain embedded concepts which help expand self-awareness and awareness of others which we sorely lack in English. It makes me long to learn the language over many lives and experience the intense romance with the same soul over and over gain in a different country each time.

It's interesting how when we read the words and their meanings, our minds constellate too, shedding light and illuminating forgotten aspects of our selves or our romantic natures.

As for fate and destiny...I'll post about that in your other thread.

As I said...I'm going to bookmark this thread and re-read these words periodically. Each one is an entire myths of the forces between two people...as the Eternal Lovers manifest with our mortal minds.

And might I say you write as fine and as elegant as you have said I write well in a different way.

posted May 18, 2014 12:38 AM            

His hope for me was to enter the medical profession...I didn't have the neurons for that.

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4th house is the mother, ruler of my 4th house is the sun which is placed in my 9th house (foreign cultures, higher education etc).

Using the house rulers and not the aspects and planets brings this conclusion.

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I always thought either 10th or 4th houses could represent either parent.

Siblings.

The 3rd house is supposed to represent siblings. With 4th house for mom, 6th house will be her siblings. 12th house for dad.

My mom has three siblings; Capricorn, Virgo, & Gemini. My dad has a cluster of Cancer siblings, Virgo, Leo, & Scorpio.

-I have no planets in the sixth, Aquarius/Pisces there in, with house ruler Uranus in Scorpio.

-I have Saturn in the 12th, Leo/Virgo therein, with house ruler Sun in Gemini