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Super Biscuit
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posted May 19, 2014 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Super Biscuit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PLANET - HIM ----- I
SUN ---- Cap ----- Virgo
MOON --- Cap ----- Leo
ASC ---- Leo ----- Scorp
MERC --- Cap ----- Libra
VENUS -- Pisc ---- Libra
MARS --- Virg ---- Virgo

We met in March on a dating website, both looking for relationships and have been dating/not dating/hanging out as friends/ besties for two months now. We both deleted our dating site profiles.

My question is where is the confusion here? Were starting out as friends but does friendship ever turn into anything more? he talks to me about moving out together into a two bedroom and says one room will be the art room and the other our room. And then he says oh yes we are besties. We have both established that we like each other earlier on, he has been very persistent, has kissed me deeply while hanging out, and isnt dating anyone else.

Now I am a Virgo so theres a fine line between friends and romantic relationships for me so this blurred line is making me craycray. Do I hold his hand or not? Do we kiss or not?? People who are just friends make out?? Not to me, thats more on the romantic relationship side of the line.

Should I not be as black and white and just go with it?? I very well know friendship could turn into love but will it? I just hope we are both not wasting our times.

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Super Biscuit
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posted May 19, 2014 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Super Biscuit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also sometimes he is cold. ie. yesterday after i finished my marathon we spent the whole day at the city and then went to a historic ruins of a bathhouse to watch a sunset but no hugs, no cuddles, wouldnt even get close to me, nothing romantic but he held my hand throughout the day. What gives.

He will hold my hand out in public but thats it unless we are drunk then he will overpower me with kisses that arent very appropriate to PDA lol. I want to kiss and I want passion!! Not even when I sleep over.. Its so weird!!

Maybe hes testing the waters and maybe hes just not that into me...

Cap men and people who have dated Caps... Any similar experiences and how did it turn out?

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AqMoon
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posted May 19, 2014 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AqMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Super Biscuit:
PLANET - HIM ----- I
SUN ---- Cap ----- Virgo
MOON --- Cap ----- Leo
ASC ---- Leo ----- Scorp
MERC --- Cap ----- Libra
VENUS -- Pisc ---- Libra
MARS --- Virg ---- Virgo


First off happy for ya.

Second off while synastry wise thing's look good and bad,it's mostly good although i have no idea what outer influences you guys have.

Virgo/Cap makes thing's nice you both understand each-other which i feel when i read that you two act like besties.You being a Virgo i'm sure you have this tendency if you notice it yourself to wonder about thing's,over-thinking is a common mutable sign trait.

Your moons are Quincunx Leo/Cap not the best match Capricorn moons tend to be a bit more colder emotionally,Leo Moons like to make everything splash grand gestures grand kisses grand love and it's just not his style.

Is your Moon on his Asc...how far is the orb?

Your Moon is Quincunx to everything...except the Asc and Mars.Most likely you don't feel like your getting enough from him emotionally.

Scorpio Asc is square his Leo asc which is great actually...the harsher aspects usually tend to bring out the really hot sexual chemistry but it never means it'll be easy.It sextiles his Capricorn placements Trines his Venus that's a nice one,and even sextiles his Mars.

Mercury and Venus in Libra square his Capricorn Sun Mercury and Moon you too have very different personalities,emotionally mentally and inwardly you are at odds with each-other.If you feel like he's not being emotionally open you have to find ways of communicating that to him where he won't feel like your trying to start a fight or control him.

Venus qunicunx Venus if it's within the orb,not easy he's more quiet romantic and dreamy a bit out of touch while you like pretty gestures and a bit of over the top romance.It's not the same style.

Mars in Virgo is it conjunct? It could be good.

I think maybe you should go with the flow don't over think,don't over analyze and just go with what you feel is the right for you and him to be doing.Don't rush either...take it slow,yet i can understand you being a Virgo you need to know where thing's stand or else you just can't relax.

I'm saying give him a chance to open up more...it could be that he's still getting to know you and feeling comfortable and such.

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AqMoon
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posted May 19, 2014 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AqMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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sag_stellium
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posted May 19, 2014 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sag_stellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The non astro answer is this:

You like him so you are investing hope in his ability to suddenly manifest into your kind of relationship. Things like this don't happen. He has shown you who he is. He wants a friends with benefits situation and even worse, living together simultaneously. Maybe he won't see others. So what? He's not trying to lock you down either. No PDA is one thing. Not wanting to call you his GF while desiring living together is a jack@ss move. He can like you and disrespect you Al in one shot.

You know deep in your heart that this isn't boyfriend behavior. This type of situation doesn't lead to longterm commitment... even if he's down for saving money on rent while getting laid simultaneously. If I were a guy, I would do this too.

Now maybe this will frustrate you enough to go have a talk with him. That's not the wise approach. A man knows whether he wants you or doesn't really want you. They always know this inside their heads. If they're confused and "need time to think about it" or "wants to test out the situation by living together" or "is not the commitment type" you're not the one they really want.

I veto this guy (with all the Internet stranger authority I have haha). He doesn't have your best interests at heart.

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mir
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posted May 19, 2014 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very recognizable.. haha.
That's the heavy virgo in me (not Sun).

What I would do in your case (to reduce the doubt) is look at the progressed synastry for some longterm potential. I need at least some proof and reassurement that my focus will be worth it.
I don't get a bad vibe with this guy hence my advice.

Here are some links..
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012875.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/207655.html

I can look for you if you want but then I need birth data.


A big fan of the progressions here.

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3333
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posted May 19, 2014 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3333     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Super Biscuit:
PLANET - HIM ----- I
SUN ---- Cap ----- Virgo
MOON --- Cap ----- Leo
ASC ---- Leo ----- Scorp
MERC --- Cap ----- Libra
VENUS -- Pisc ---- Libra
MARS --- Virg ---- Virgo

We met in March on a dating website, both looking for relationships and have been dating/not dating/hanging out as friends/ besties for two months now. We both deleted our dating site profiles.

My question is where is the confusion here? Were starting out as friends but does friendship ever turn into anything more? he talks to me about moving out together into a two bedroom and says one room will be the art room and the other our room. And then he says oh yes we are besties. We have both established that we like each other earlier on, he has been very persistent, has kissed me deeply while hanging out, and isnt dating anyone else.

Now I am a Virgo so theres a fine line between friends and romantic relationships for me so this blurred line is making me craycray. Do I hold his hand or not? Do we kiss or not?? People who are just friends make out?? Not to me, thats more on the romantic relationship side of the line.

Should I not be as black and white and just go with it?? I very well know friendship could turn into love but will it? I just hope we are both not wasting our times.



Comparing your charts and take only the sun signs well i see a relationship made in heaven!!!!Well Capricorn and Virgos are so similar as personalities they both are hard working and you both think logical so that means that you will understand each other Now considering your whole chart i see some interesting aspects first of all your moon seems to conjuct his asc,this aspect also might help you with your friendship bound(i have the exact same aspect with my best friend) now your mars which is in virgo(mars in women also show the type of man that woman prefer)so if i am right you are attracted by a man that he is down to earth,logical,serious,a mature and responsible person and his feelings are stable,as ii understand by his chart he might be what you are looking for he is logical and down to earth (4 personal planets in earth signs ) very stable and at the same time generous(asc in leo ) with ra lot of fantasy(pisces) but sometimes he might be a little be snoby(leo and capricorn) but he seems a very mature guy...now his venus which is in pisces(venus in a man's chart show what type of woman attracted him) so pisces as a romantic sign attracted by women which are also romantic but at the same type they have a strong personality just like you (virgo sun,moon in leo and scorpio asc) you have a also mercury in libra(which is also a romantic sign,especially women)Well your chart has a lot of good aspects for your relationship but i can explain it right now :/ well i hope i helped and in my opinion you dont waste your time:if he loves you and you love him why not ? I know a lot of successful relationships between a capricorn and a virgo in my personal life and general.Last but not least i wish you with all my heart good luck

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charlie
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posted May 19, 2014 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Leo Moon will never be able to handle his Cap Moon IMO.

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Super Biscuit
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posted May 19, 2014 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Super Biscuit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mir:
Very recognizable.. haha.
That's the heavy virgo in me (not Sun).

What I would do in your case (to reduce the doubt) is look at the progressed synastry for some longterm potential. I need at least some proof and reassurement that my focus will be worth it.
I don't get a bad vibe with this guy hence my advice.

Here are some links..
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012875.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/207655.html

I can look for you if you want but then I need birth data.


A big fan of the progressions here.


Hey there!

HIS: January 17th, 1980
MINE: September 19th, 1987

I cant remember his Birthtime, it was like 6am in California. Mine is 11am in Cali aswell

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Super Biscuit
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posted May 19, 2014 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Super Biscuit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sag_stellium:
The non astro answer is this:

You like him so you are investing hope in his ability to suddenly manifest into your kind of relationship. Things like this don't happen. He has shown you who he is. He wants a friends with benefits situation and even worse, living together simultaneously. Maybe he won't see others. So what? He's not trying to lock you down either. No PDA is one thing. Not wanting to call you his GF while desiring living together is a jack@ss move. He can like you and disrespect you Al in one shot.

You know deep in your heart that this isn't boyfriend behavior. This type of situation doesn't lead to longterm commitment... even if he's down for saving money on rent while getting laid simultaneously. If I were a guy, I would do this too.

Now maybe this will frustrate you enough to go have a talk with him. That's not the wise approach. A man knows whether he wants you or doesn't really want you. They always know this inside their heads. If they're confused and "need time to think about it" or "wants to test out the situation by living together" or "is not the commitment type" you're not the one they really want.

I veto this guy (with all the Internet stranger authority I have haha). He doesn't have your best interests at heart.


These are exactly my fears. He wants the milk but not the heffer (hahaha). Trust me Im not a dumb girl and have thought this over thoroughly because I know myself and how I become emotionally attached to people I trust w/ all my Libra placements. But this is how I get hurt so I am trying to be smart about it.

For now I will keep him as a friend.. I want to see other people but I know he will be mad if I do. Hes def the jealous type

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Super Biscuit
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posted May 20, 2014 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Super Biscuit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So.. We were texting earlier and he asked if hed see me today and I had to decline because my tummy has been feeling icky and tell him I will be in bed all day trying to recover.. So I get a knock at the door a few minutes ago and ask "Who is it?" No response and I go to the door and find that no one is there and something on the floor catches my eye..

He left a 6pack of ginger ale and organic chicken noodle soup at my door step... Lol. At first I thought it must be for my mother (I moved in in March to help her while she recovers for surgery) because no one ever does nice things for me and then I connected all the pieces...

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sag_stellium
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posted May 20, 2014 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sag_stellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Super Biscuit:
These are exactly my fears. He wants the milk but not the heffer (hahaha). Trust me Im not a dumb girl and have thought this over thoroughly because I know myself and how I become emotionally attached to people I trust w/ all my Libra placements. But this is how I get hurt so I am trying to be smart about it.

For now I will keep him as a friend.. I want to see other people but I know he will be mad if I do. Hes def the jealous type


Glad to hear that. Be safe. Have fun. Hopefully it turns out well. If not, you still will have your gut to guide you!

It was sweet of him to leave you stuff because you're sick. A positive indicator

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mir
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posted May 20, 2014 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haihai,

Ok here we are with the results.

Although nothing is set in stone (remember) I will be honest with you. The progressions are not impressive for the longterm.

I looked at the Sun, Venus and Mars in all dimensions as I think they're all relevant.


DECLINATIONS;

- His progressed Venus in an applying parallel to your natal Mars.
- Your progressed Sun in an applying contra-parallel to his natal Mars.

HELIO;

- Your progressed Earth/Moon in an appl. conjunction (0,5 degr.) to his natal Venus.
- Your progressed Venus in a separating trine (0'15) from his natal Sun.


But all ^^ will separate within a year. And I don't see any strong indicators for the near future. But yea.. this upcoming year could be an intense one .. but after that I'm afraid there's not very much left.. I can only advice you to stay very close to your inner Self. I believe if we do, we will make the right choices despite any progression.

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Super Biscuit
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posted May 20, 2014 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Super Biscuit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mir:
Haihai,

Ok here we are with the results.

Although nothing is set in stone (remember) I will be honest with you. The progressions are not impressive for the longterm.

I looked at the Sun, Venus and Mars in all dimensions as I think they're all relevant.


DECLINATIONS;

- His progressed Venus in an applying parallel to your natal Mars.
- Your progressed Sun in an applying contra-parallel to his natal Mars.

HELIO;

- Your progressed Earth/Moon in an appl. conjunction (0,5 degr.) to his natal Venus.
- Your progressed Venus in a separating trine (0'15) from his natal Sun.


But all ^^ will separate within a year. And I don't see any strong indicators for the near future. But yea.. this upcoming year could be an intense one .. but after that I'm afraid there's not very much left.. I can only advice you to stay very close to your inner Self. I believe if we do, we will make the right choices despite any progression.


Interesting. Thanks. We were supposed to move in together in a few months but this puts it all in perspective so thanks for the astrological heads up. It will definitely help me think clearly without rose colored glasses on.

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Super Biscuit
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posted May 20, 2014 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Super Biscuit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
Your Leo Moon will never be able to handle his Cap Moon IMO.

Is he too serious for my Leo moon?

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charlie
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posted May 20, 2014 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Super Biscuit:
Is he too serious for my Leo moon?

Caps are actually goofy and funny BUT there will also be an aloofness that most of all do not understand. Leos tend to need more warmth and attention, Caps perhaps not so much, especially not a Cap Moon. But again, aspects to other planets might alter this.

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Venusian Moon
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posted May 20, 2014 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Super Biscuit:
Also sometimes he is cold. ie. yesterday after i finished my marathon we spent the whole day at the city and then went to a historic ruins of a bathhouse to watch a sunset but no hugs, no cuddles, wouldnt even get close to me, nothing romantic but he held my hand throughout the day. What gives.

He will hold my hand out in public but thats it unless we are drunk then he will overpower me with kisses that arent very appropriate to PDA lol. I want to kiss and I want passion!! Not even when I sleep over.. Its so weird!!

Maybe hes testing the waters and maybe hes just not that into me...

Cap men and people who have dated Caps... Any similar experiences and how did it turn out?



Just go with the flow. Some people are more shy and sometimes alcohol helps them open up more lol. I know lots of people like that. Once they have a drink they get wild lol.

P.s - sometimes u gotta put that astro crap aside and take risks. U will never know until you try. And if u get hurt just keep loving with an open heart. Dont follow transits and progressions and base your daily life on it. Anyone who does that seriously needs to get a life. Not specifically u but you know what i mean.

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Super Biscuit
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posted May 20, 2014 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Super Biscuit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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mir
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posted May 20, 2014 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Dont follow transits and progressions and base your daily life on it. Anyone who does that seriously needs to get a life.

Progressions are no joke. Unless you believe in a next life together with the best progressed synastry in the world. Dream on V-moon.

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Venusian Moon
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posted May 20, 2014 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Progressions are no joke. Unless you believe in a next life together with the best progressed synastry in the world. Dream on V-moon.

Progressions are only a joke when people take things way too seriously. It seems to me like you would rather see her alone, old, and closed off. People get hurt and thats life. You live and you learn. No need to grow cob webs on your ***** because of it.

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