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ReachingForTheStars
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posted May 24, 2014 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReachingForTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/personal/02/11/lw.programmed.to.marry.parents/

According to this ^ article, people tend to pair with others who resemble a parent for reasons that remind me of why we draw soulmates into our lives. It really gives insight into the astrology of our psychology, and maybe even our karma.

My husband and father have similar charts. Their angles are conjunct by 4 degrees with their chart rulers in the same sign, conjunct the same angle. I think it's a pretty striking similarity.

My father in on the inner wheel, and husband on the outer:

Anyone have similar experiences?

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posted May 24, 2014 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seekinglight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to psychology, you would end up marrying someone resembling a parent you have more troubled relationship with, or if it happens to be both, the one which is worst.

Oh well, I am sure we can break the curse somehow. There's fate but we create our own destiny.

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posted May 24, 2014 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Disturbing.

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posted May 24, 2014 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha. Some do but some want the opposite of their parents because they don't want to be reminded of their traits.
Some might even marry outside their race just to escape some unsavory characteristics they grew up with that remind them of negative experiences.

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ReachingForTheStars
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posted May 24, 2014 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReachingForTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by seekinglight:
According to psychology, you would end up marrying someone resembling a parent you have more troubled relationship with, or if it happens to be both, the one which is worst.

Oh well, I am sure we can break the curse somehow. There's fate but we create our own destiny.


Oh god! That would be my mother. I read somewhere people with the same sun signs don't get along well, and we have the same ascendant, sun, mercury, venus, and mars. Well I think I'm totally awesome, there is no way I would date someone like my mom!! No way!! What a nightmare.

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Disturbing.

Tell me about it! I was in awe when I seen the charts.

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posted May 24, 2014 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReachingForTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Haha. Some do but some want the opposite of their parents because they don't want to be reminded of their traits.
Some might even marry outside their race just to escape some unsavory characteristics they grew up with that remind them of negative experiences.

That's a good idea. I have a sag descendant, I should try someone foreign.

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posted May 24, 2014 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interestingly enough - the men I love most and have the best relationships with.. have a combination of the placements in the charts of the people who were closest to me in my formative years.

eek ^ #longsentence

mum: Leo/Gemini Moon/Leo Merc/Libra Ven/Scorpio Mars

grandma: Libra/Scorpio Moon/Libra Merc/Scorpio Venus/Scorpio Mars

grandpa: Virgo/Libra Moon/Libra Mercury/Libra Venus/Leo Mars

My best and longest relationships were with:

1) Libra/Cap Moon/Scorpio Mercury/Libra Venus/Virgo Mars

and..

2) Leo/Gemini Moon/Cancer Merc/Virgo Venus/Scorpio Mars

My closest male friends for the past few years in my life:

1) Leo/Scorpio Moon/Leo Merc/Cancer Venus/Libra Mars

2) Libra/Leo Moon/Scorpio Merc/Scorpio Venus/Libra Mars

So it's almost *always* a combination of three or more signs in the charts of my family members.

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posted May 24, 2014 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Incestuous .

They are supposed to be our soulmates (mostly karmic), so going by this theory, I think it’s quite normal to want to marry someone similar to our soulmates.

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posted May 24, 2014 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marandana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope I can totally break that curse, cause I got big father issues so the last I want in my life is another man like my dad, and actually I'm always interested in men that don't resemble my dad at all.

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posted May 24, 2014 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Marandana:
I hope I can totally break that curse, cause I got big father issues so the last I want in my life is another man like my dad, and actually I'm always interested in men that don't resemble my dad at all.

ALL OF THIS. Just 'not being like my dad' is already a huge perk in my eyes X)

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posted May 24, 2014 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Marandana:
I hope I can totally break that curse, cause I got big father issues so the last I want in my life is another man like my dad, and actually I'm always interested in men that don't resemble my dad at all.

thirded. gambling, wife beating alcoholics please take a number

my father was extremely hard working and tough. are about the only admirable things i can gauge about him. i definately do seek these qualities in others. we dont have much of a relationship. he treated my mother like crap and guys often act disrespectful towards me. im always like 'this is a ******* stitch up'. people just want to challenge me. its annoying but they dont scare me

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posted May 24, 2014 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what happends when the father is dead and I have no clue what he was like, does it stil apply?

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posted May 25, 2014 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I think it will. Maybe you get attracted to guys who are unavailable physically or emotionally .

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posted May 25, 2014 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starlitroad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
God forbid!! I am quite needy , even if I do not show it:)
I did his chart anyway..he was a cappy sun , aquarius moon and venus in scorp...cappy and aquarius do the click for me, (but they can be quite cold and detached)so I hope for a loyal aries man :D:D

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posted May 25, 2014 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starlitroad:
So what happends when the father is dead and I have no clue what he was like, does it stil apply?



It doesn't apply in my case. My parents got a divorce pretty early on. I like my dad overall but I see him as a distant friend - rather than a close friend. I saw him a couple of times per year while growing up.
He is Aqua/Aqua Moon- Cap Merc-Aqua Venus and Aqua Mars. I like Aquarius guys.. but they don't really figure in my romantic life.

On LL I do flirt with Aqua Guy though hahaha Maybe I play out my daddy issues online

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Not always actually... Some people complete their karma with parental issues so they get the chance to reach to a healthy relationship. This goes for troubled relationships with their parents. I went through it and my ex helped me rebuild my communication with my father. They had so many similarities in their character and lives that was freaky. Thankfully, I completed my karma and broke up, but he didn't manage to get along well with his mother. So his karma continues and he still searches for his "mother"...

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I'm so cappy
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Assuming I'll be in a relationship...If one day I wake up and realize the man lying next to me is more similar than not to my father, I'll shoot myself

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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Interesting... That might explain my interest in a guy. He is a Taurus with Virgo Moon. My father is a Virgo with Taurus Moon. He also has Moon conjunct Chiron, which my mother also has. I'm f*****!

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posted May 25, 2014 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh. This is crap psychology. I hate it when respected publications use crap psychology.

"Anecdotal evidence also suggests that a parent's physical or intellectual traits may have some influence. A Hungarian researcher studied the facial features of 52 families and found a significant correlation between the appearance of men and their fathers-in-law and those of women and their mothers-in-law."

First of all, 52 families is a TINY sample size for a psychological study. Second of all, if this Hungarian researcher completed this study in his own country, I would wager that yes, most of the people look similar because I'm guessing that Hungary has a more homogenized population, than say, the US, so it's not super surprising that their mates are more likely to look similar.

"And in a survey of approximately 2,700 "high-achieving" men -- those in the top 10 percent of their age income bracket and/or with an advanced degree -- a University of Iowa researcher found they are likely to marry women with education levels and careers that mirror those of their moms."

Ok, better sample size. HOWEVER, it does note that this only includes "high-achieving men," read: white and upper class. Of COURSE they are going to marry someone with a similar education level and possibly career similar to their moms because those in the upper class often tend to value money more highly than anything (and education comes along with this). As a result, both the men and the women are going to end up in similar fields and they are going to marry those in similar fields because that is who they are exposed to and that is what they value. It's not rocket science.

In this case, I would actually be more interested in hearing about how people's spouses' astrological placements are also similar to their parents' astro placements.

I personally have not dated anyone who 1) looked like my father, 2) acted like my father and 3) had my father's (or mother's) astrological placements. In fact, when I have dated, it's been much more based on my chart placements. My father is a cardinal sign with a heavy base of fixed planets, and my mom is a fixed sign with a heavy base of cardinal planets. I have neither one of these configurations, as almost all of my planets are mutable (with a fixed rising and a cardinal moon). Almost everyone I've dated has been a mutable sign (with the exception of a couple of cardinal signs that snuck in there). Granted, none of them stuck, but still...

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posted May 26, 2014 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by seekinglight:
According to psychology, you would end up marrying someone resembling a parent you have more troubled relationship with, or if it happens to be both, the one which is worst.

Oh well, I am sure we can break the curse somehow. There's fate but we create our own destiny.


Could this stem from our own conditioned sense of low self worth?

I consider my self-esteem to be quite healthy; given that I am attracted to people who are easy to love on every level; physically good looking and with a personality to boot.

My relationship with my Father was quite difficult and I used to get so angry at him all the time.

But I always seem to attract/be drawn to a relationship with someone who resembles the closeness I desire.

My relationships are very sentimental, passionate and emotional. Not at all like my Dad.

I am gay btw.

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posted May 26, 2014 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by enchantress299:
Ugh. This is crap psychology. I hate it when respected publications use crap psychology.

"Anecdotal evidence also suggests that a parent's physical or intellectual traits may have some influence. A Hungarian researcher studied the facial features of 52 families and found a significant correlation between the appearance of men and their fathers-in-law and those of women and their mothers-in-law."

First of all, 52 families is a TINY sample size for a psychological study. Second of all, if this Hungarian researcher completed this study in his own country, I would wager that yes, most of the people look similar because I'm guessing that Hungary has a more homogenized population, than say, the US, so it's not super surprising that their mates are more likely to look similar.

"And in a survey of approximately 2,700 "high-achieving" men -- those in the top 10 percent of their age income bracket and/or with an advanced degree -- a University of Iowa researcher found they are likely to marry women with education levels and careers that mirror those of their moms."

Ok, better sample size. HOWEVER, it does note that this only includes "high-achieving men," read: white and upper class. Of COURSE they are going to marry someone with a similar education level and possibly career similar to their moms because those in the upper class often tend to value money more highly than anything (and education comes along with this). As a result, both the men and the women are going to end up in similar fields and they are going to marry those in similar fields because that is who they are exposed to and that is what they value. It's not rocket science.

In this case, I would actually be more interested in hearing about how people's spouses' astrological placements are also similar to their parents' astro placements.

I personally have not dated anyone who 1) looked like my father, 2) acted like my father and 3) had my father's (or mother's) astrological placements. In fact, when I have dated, it's been much more based on my chart placements. My father is a cardinal sign with a heavy base of fixed planets, and my mom is a fixed sign with a heavy base of cardinal planets. I have neither one of these configurations, as almost all of my planets are mutable (with a fixed rising and a cardinal moon). Almost everyone I've dated has been a mutable sign (with the exception of a couple of cardinal signs that snuck in there). Granted, none of them stuck, but still...


Bravo! So well said.

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posted May 26, 2014 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also read that people are attracted to others that look like themselves. I don't remember if they discussed actually personality, just physically.

If you look at the photos in that article all four of them look quite similar.

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posted May 26, 2014 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m not sure whether psychology is really psychology or just another name for statistics.

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posted May 26, 2014 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seekinglight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Haha. Some do but some want the opposite of their parents because they don't want to be reminded of their traits.
Some might even marry outside their race just to escape some unsavory characteristics they grew up with that remind them of negative experiences.

One way to break the family karma is to move away from them as far as you could, possibly moving interstate or overseas. Of course, relationships with people of contrasting cultures will certainly complement. Eg. one coming from an emotionally muted conservative culture might benefit from meeting someone whose culture is more open to demonstrative emotional affections.

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