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meissieri
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posted May 26, 2014 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I know from others born around that time that they have their Nessus around 15-16 Libra. Maybe it's a few degrees further for him, but it'll likely be around that degree.

So he may have Nessus square Uranus and Neptune?

edit: checked ephemeris. It says 11 Libra, so an exact square to Uranus. O_O

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IndigoDirae
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posted May 26, 2014 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forgive me, but I'm really growing a bit tired of Elliot Rodger.

That being said, his chart has some clear similarities to Bundy, which I feel are worth studying.

I'll likely return to this in a few days. I need a respite.

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posted May 26, 2014 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by birdy:
Ami- I watched some of his videos, read some of his writing, and this guy was obsessed with blonde, tall, "beautiful" women. He had a VERY particular type. I think he could have easily got someone but his attitude deterred this from happening. Im guessing he had a snobby air about him which made it difficult to approach. If you weren't perfect, blonde, and beautiful, he didn't care.

I will make this one point - if I may.

It's doubtful that was his 'type'. You're more likely to find that he felt the initial 'betrayal' by one who fit that type.

But then this is Los Angeles. That's ... ubiquitous.

I DO feel his narcissism disallowed him from connecting to anyone he did not feel was 'worthy' of him. The fact that so many sorority girls snubbed him is unsurprising. There's an increasing culture of young women who are raised like spoilt princesses and won't deign to give anyone less than the most 'eligible bachelor' types the time of day.

Rodger should have fit that, given his status. I feel the autism and stilted air was simply too difficult for these rather - well, vapid - women to decipher.

And thus, sexualised rage became violent acting out.

Absolutely tragic.

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posted May 26, 2014 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for page one     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indigo, are you and birdy actually suggesting that these women SHOULD have given him the time of day?

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Ami Anne
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posted May 26, 2014 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel that Sun/Chiron seems to belong on an angle.

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posted May 26, 2014 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Page one- ehhh what? I didnt say such a thing. I have no idea what you're talking about. This guy obviously had a mental illness. I dont really want to change the subject off Astrology so I will leave it at that.

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Ami Anne
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posted May 26, 2014 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Sun is almost Unaspected. It makes one opposition to Saturn, which is a close one. Chiron does not count toward Unaspected. The Unaspected Sun has a buried ego that he must unearth in order to really shine and he can then really shine. In this case, there seems to be some bizarre twist of this in that he did shine and want to shine but it was in a nefarious way. I am gonna write an article on it if I don't have too many clients in the next week. I think Algol must come into play here, too.

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posted May 26, 2014 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by birdy:
Page one- ehhh what? I didnt say such a thing. I have no idea what you're talking about. This guy obviously had a mental illness. I dont really want to change the subject off Astrology so I will leave it at that.

Just ignore when someone baits you

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posted May 27, 2014 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Celestica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
Considering how much he hates women, it's strange to not see harsh aspects with venus and moons.

Leo pride...,



I don't think its strange. The positive reception between his Mars/Venus conj and Moon show that their attitudes support one another. That conj. with Venus in fall shows a blunted romantic affect. Not being able to properly express feelings of love and sensuality but at the same time having the inter drive (Mars) that desires to express Venus, especially in an open and public way. The Moon in Cap is very cold and neglects ones own emotions (at least it can, I'm being very negative with these interpretations). The trines between them shows that his own emotional neglect and barren inner world supports his feelings of sexual inadequacy and the feeling of being unable to obtain love. The Sun/Chiron conj in Leo at 0 degrees is very telling as well. That opposition to Saturn in Aquarius tells themes of learning the restrictions of society, learning lessons about how one fits into a whole and the Chiron pain makes this very negative. Having a very hurt ego that feels isolated and cut off from the rest of society.

TL;DR the misogyny stems from his own hurt ego and feelings of isolated and 'not fitting in' combined with a barren inner world that is supported by inability to express sensuality and sexuality.

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posted May 27, 2014 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I will make this one point - if I may.

It's doubtful that was his 'type'. You're more likely to find that he felt the initial 'betrayal' by one who fit that type.

But then this is Los Angeles. That's ... ubiquitous.

I DO feel his narcissism disallowed him from connecting to anyone he did not feel was 'worthy' of him. The fact that so many sorority girls snubbed him is unsurprising. There's an increasing culture of young women who are raised like spoilt princesses and won't deign to give anyone less than the most 'eligible bachelor' types the time of day.

Rodger should have fit that, given his status. I feel the autism and stilted air was simply too difficult for these rather - well, vapid - women to decipher.

And thus, sexualised rage became violent acting out.

Absolutely tragic.


He was just as vapid, though. And racist. He hated that a hot blonde was in the seat next to an Indian young man, in a car that wasn't nearly as expensive as his own. He wanted women to starve to death in concentration camps, and to turn his apartment into a torture chamber (hence the dead roommates who would have been in the way of his accomplishing that). It goes on and on.

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posted May 27, 2014 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron in Leo, not feeling recognised, I know his pain.
Or at least an unconscious need to be recognised and praised. Combine that with other bad placements and your going to feel internally tormented.

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meissieri
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posted May 30, 2014 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His moon is very early in the sign. Is it possible with his dob he could be a Sagittarius moon?

I'm feeling really uncomfortable with sharing my sun/moon combo with a shooter.


Edit: checked. No, even 0.01 a.m. puts his moon in Cap (0 degrees though).
I'm voting for Virgo Rising then. Venus in his first house. He was very materialistic and Venus in H1 can lead to only caring about appearance - something he definitely did. Plus, it would give his Venus an extra blow from being in the first house, where it's in detriment. Then that Scorpio duad.

Still just baffled how he can't have any Pluto afflictions. Maybe parallels?

Edit 2: He has an exact square from Mercury to asteroid Tantalus (Taurus). Well, his thoughts and mindframe did hurt his chances.
And Venus square Medusa under 1 degree.

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Ami Anne
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posted May 30, 2014 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has an exact square from Mercury to asteroid Tantalus (Taurus). Well, his thoughts and mindframe did hurt his chances.


This is VERY interesting

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