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birdy Knowflake Posts: 1504 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 24, 2014 09:20 PM
Saw this article-http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/24/us/california-shooting-suspect/index.html?hpt=hp_t1Here it shows his birthdate in his manifesto: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638474/BREAKING-NEWS-Three-bodies-removed-apartment-gunman-California-shooting-rampage-revealed-22-year-old-wrote-plans-lure-victims-home-1 40-page-manifesto.html According to the second link- he was born July 24, 1991 in the morning in London.
Here is his chart(TIME NOT CONFIRMED-I just put 6 am): IP: Logged |
Leocassandra Knowflake Posts: 510 From: Poland Registered: Jan 2013
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posted May 25, 2014 04:29 AM
F**k!Not another one... I was born on 25th July 1991. He's only one day older than me. And there was another mass murder boy in Germany born on 26th of July 1991. I know that "our" Sun/Chiron conjunction opposite Saturn isn't fun. Jupiter square pluto-dogmatic views. Venus in fall, Moon in Capricorn, unaspected Mercury... but come on! he could be feeling down because t.Saturn was squaring his Jupiter. Nodes are still in square with his Sun. Neptune opposite Venus/Mars conjunctionIP: Logged |
birdy Knowflake Posts: 1504 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 25, 2014 11:36 AM
I looked at his progressed chart. Moon in Scorpio squaring Saturn and wide conjunction to Pluto. Venus and Mercury in Virgo in retrograde. Sun squaring Pluto. His natal has an exact Sun/Chiron conjunction. Chiron being in Leo also relates to sex, love, affection..it was his biggest wound. He had Mercury in conjunction to Jupiter. Ironically Jupiter in Leo in the summer could have dramatically lifted his spirits but obviously there was a serious mental affliction here. TSaturn was squaring his natal Jupiter, which dampened any hope. His solar return for 13/14 showed Moon in Aquarius square Saturn..again with the Moon/Saturn and fixed signs. Transit Neptune was opposing his Venus/Mars--Complete delusions about the opposite sex. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 55143 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 25, 2014 02:11 PM
Sun/Chiron is HUGE pain from the father and I have never seen such an exact conjunction.------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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starlitroad Knowflake Posts: 481 From: romania,Ns Registered: Feb 2014
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posted May 25, 2014 02:23 PM
Why moon in capricorn appears in almost all killers charts?meaaah...it'd depressing @.#IP: Logged |
birdy Knowflake Posts: 1504 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 25, 2014 02:25 PM
I read some of his writings, and there seems to be a lot of anger towards his father. (Sun).IP: Logged |
Leocassandra Knowflake Posts: 510 From: Poland Registered: Jan 2013
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posted May 25, 2014 02:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by starlitroad: Why moon in capricorn appears in almost all killers charts?meaaah...it'd depressing @.#
agree!  If anyone wonder, his Moon is conjunct both Liliths and Kaali IP: Logged |
meissieri Knowflake Posts: 1011 From: The Netherlands Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 25, 2014 02:52 PM
What surprises me is that he doesn't even have such a bad chart. True, Sun conj. Chiron opp Saturn sounds really bad - probably issues with his father. Some quincunxes, too.But look at those trines and sextiles! And Jupiter on the South Node - naturally blessed... though maybe it explains his expectations for life to go easy? Pluto singleton. I know many people have it, but it explains the vibe I got from his videos (I immediately thought strong Pluto afflictions). Neptune on the NN - developing more compassion as a goal in life for him? EDIT: And that Pluto singleton is Rx, too. O__O Duad-wise, I noticed his moon is in the Aquarius duad. Maybe it explains how detached he was from others, seeing them as just objects. Venus and Mars in the Scorpio duad in harsh aspect to Saturn. Doesn't sound easy either. IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3842 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2014 08:11 PM
oh birdy this is excellent! I was trying to think of how to rectify this chart but need a little more information. Birdy, how would you like to add transits and progressions? (no asteroids please, to crowded and hard to read) ------------------
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 55143 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 25, 2014 08:22 PM
venus conj Mars--charisma. I don't get why he was not appealing to women.That Chiron/Sun oppose Saturn sticks out to me as super, super hard ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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birdy Knowflake Posts: 1504 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 25, 2014 08:38 PM
Ami- I watched some of his videos, read some of his writing, and this guy was obsessed with blonde, tall, "beautiful" women. He had a VERY particular type. I think he could have easily got someone but his attitude deterred this from happening. Im guessing he had a snobby air about him which made it difficult to approach. If you weren't perfect, blonde, and beautiful, he didn't care.IP: Logged |
birdy Knowflake Posts: 1504 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 25, 2014 08:44 PM
Here is his progressed chart(AGAIN-Time not confirmed):
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lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3842 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2014 08:50 PM
quote: venus conj Mars--charisma. I don't get why he was not appealing to women...Ami
my thoughts exactly also I read somewhere (I thought it was this thread ) that he had Lilith conjunct the Sun. That could play a part. ------------------ "For all those who believe, expect a miracle.” Linda Goodman 1925-1995 IP: Logged |
birdy Knowflake Posts: 1504 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 25, 2014 08:53 PM
I almost think that a Leo ASC would be very possible ASC for him.Here is his relocation chart: IP: Logged |
birdy Knowflake Posts: 1504 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 25, 2014 08:55 PM
Lala- His Lilith was 9 degrees Capricorn.IP: Logged |
babybull82 Knowflake Posts: 209 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 25, 2014 09:04 PM
I'm glad someone decided to start a discussion about this. http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/ohmystars/2014/05/ the-astrology-of-elliot-rodger-and-birth-charts-without-souls.html This article put his birth time at about 8am and leads him to have Sun, Mercury, and Jupiter in his 12th house. IP: Logged |
babybull82 Knowflake Posts: 209 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 25, 2014 09:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: venus conj Mars--charisma. I don't get why he was not appealing to women.That Chiron/Sun oppose Saturn sticks out to me as super, super hard
Venus in Virgo would probably explain a lot of why there was a lack of relationships. There is just something about this placement that makes it very hard for people to connect with others on a romantic level. This guy to a certain extent was reminding me of someone (not necessarily his words or mannerisms) Something I can't grasp, but it reminded me of an ex who indeed had virgo venus and mars like this guy. Also had quite a few planets in the 12 and sun conjunct saturn. I'm telling you man that Venus Virgo is ROUGH and if you don't have the capacity to deal with the bouts of loneliness and periods of solitude it could literally be the end of you.
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MoonWitch Moderator Posts: 1649 From: The Beach Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2014 10:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by birdy: Ami- I watched some of his videos, read some of his writing, and this guy was obsessed with blonde, tall, "beautiful" women. He had a VERY particular type. I think he could have easily got someone but his attitude deterred this from happening. Im guessing he had a snobby air about him which made it difficult to approach. If you weren't perfect, blonde, and beautiful, he didn't care.
That was the impression I got as well.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 55143 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 25, 2014 10:39 PM
Leo asc works But what time would get Chiron conj the ASC. He was gorgeous and sexy. He had to have something making him be warped. I would say Chiron conj the ASC is always severe bullying ime and so I think Chiron would be nearer the ASC. Does anyone want to fool around with the times. I am a Libra ASC and am lazy  ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3842 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 25, 2014 10:51 PM
Thank you birdy for the Lilith info.I can't post charts so I'll give a time instead. 11:52 AM London, England. This gives a 10*13" Libra Ascendant. T. Mars was still in the 12th house which I believe shaped his decisions plus being so close to the Ascendant made him aggressive. The Nadir is 13*20"56' Capricorn. This is a critical degree and sits between N. Uranus @ 11*02" Capricorn and N. Neptune @ 14*57" Capricorn. Transiting Pluto is critical @ 13 Capricorn. The Nadir must be challenged in the death chart. This describes the "end of life" The events leading up to his death are pretty much described by Uranus, unexpected and a shocking. Neptune, his delusional reasons for committing this crime, (lack of) sex and a specific type of partner (Neptunian perfection) Transiting Pluto(4), T. Mars (Asc), T. Uranus (7) triggered the event. Using the Asc/Desc this chart also triggers a Grand Square. What I didn't like about this chart was Taurus ruling the 8th house, I don't quite see how that describes his death unless it has to do with love/sex and then his Natal Venus is conjunct Mars. ------------------ "For all those who believe, expect a miracle.” Linda Goodman 1925-1995 IP: Logged |
yellowelevator Knowflake Posts: 94 From: Michigan, Neptune, and sometimes Pluto Registered: Nov 2013
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posted May 25, 2014 11:25 PM
I just took the 11:52 a.m. time that lalalinda gave and his solar return for this year shows Pluto in the 12th square Uranus (by 5 deg.) in the 2nd, opposite Mercury in the 6th. ASC in Capricorn. Moon trine Mars exact. South Node trine Vertex by 2 degrees, and square to Mars. Saturn inconjunct Uranus exact. Saturn exactly conjunct the Midheaven at 16 degrees Scorpio. Hmmm....IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5108 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 25, 2014 11:31 PM
I'm reading his manifesto..- visual memory - emotional, maybe even an empath(yeah it can happen, good empath gone bad)
quote: For preschool, I was enrolled at Dorsett House, an upscale all-boys private school in the countryside, near where we lived. I was forced to wear a uniform, which I hated because I had to wear uncomfortable socks up to my knees. I was very nervous and I cried on my first day there. I can remember two friends I made by name, George and David. I would always play in the sandpit with them. I didn’t like school at Dorsett House very much. I found the rules to be too strict. My least favorite part of it was the football sessions. I never understood the game and I could never keep up with the other boys in the field, so I always stood by the goal-keeper and pretended to be the “second goal-keeper”. My favorite part was playing in the woods after lunch. There was a particular climbing structure that I had a lot of fun with. My preschool class once went on a field trip to the park, where I had the misfortune of getting lost. As my class was eating lunch, I ventured off to another area of the park, and when I returned, my class had moved on. I remember panicking and asking strangers for help. It was a terrifying experience for me. I was eventually led to my class by the strangers I talked to. I remember one funny incident when we were taking school pictures. They forced us to sit cross-legged, which I hated doing, so I absolutely refused to sit that way for the picture. The teachers eventually conceded, and the picture was taken with me being the only one sitting differently.
I expect an outer planet in first house or in hard aspect to ASC, possibly uranus or neptune or chiron, not pluto. - Moved to US at 5, look at the transits. - He has a very good visual memory, should've been a writer instead. IP: Logged |
babybull82 Knowflake Posts: 209 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 25, 2014 11:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Leo asc works But what time would get Chiron conj the ASC. He was gorgeous and sexy. He had to have something making him be warped. I would say Chiron conj the ASC is always severe bullying ime and so I think Chiron would be nearer the ASC. Does anyone want to fool around with the times. I am a Libra ASC and am lazy 
He was diagnosed with high functioning Aspergers syndrome when he was 5. Not sure if that would give a clue as to why he was so messed up. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 6158 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 26, 2014 06:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by birdy: Ami- I watched some of his videos, read some of his writing, and this guy was obsessed with blonde, tall, "beautiful" women. He had a VERY particular type. I think he could have easily got someone but his attitude deterred this from happening. Im guessing he had a snobby air about him which made it difficult to approach. If you weren't perfect, blonde, and beautiful, he didn't care.
He claims to be the perfect man, but I also have Sun/Chiron tightly conjunct, and I've had all sorts of anxiety and insecurity, due to several things that happened in my life (and more recently, things at home). I can be my own worst enemy, and I think he really didn't think so well of himself, otherwise he wouldn't have shown off so much money-wise. He looks like he's trying too hard, trying to project an image.
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 6158 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 26, 2014 06:38 AM
Where is transiting Saturn? I see that it's squared his progressed Sun and Jupiter at some point (several months back?). Neptune opposed progressed Mercury/Venus - they're also retrograde. Pluto is conjunct natal Uranus. Saturn is on his natal pluto, but both of those are generational transits, too. I remember a former member saying that Pluto conjunct Neptune was hard for her, but I think it was also conjunct her Sun - I'm not sure. All of that capricorn and Leo - I think he really wasn't living up to the way he saw himself, or wanted to be, and couldn't deal with that, so he pushed blame outward. IP: Logged |