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amelia28
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posted May 31, 2014 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
I really really don't think any of these placements would make you a night owl except maybe moon conjunct mc. 5th house is a fire sign house, and house OF the sun, Mars conjunct sun definitely doesn't make you want to stay up late. If anything that is a morning bird's aspect. What other placements do you have? Water or Earth. Any scorpio?

I like were you are going with this...break it down for us your thoughts on the matter.

What aspects contribute to early bird and night owls IYO???

I think uranus influence involving the 12th house ruler seems to involve people who prefer to stay up later and wake up later if they had the option...and pluto/scorpio I think as well does this.

Uranus wants to set their own time perhaps rebel a bit agains't schedules and expectations of sleep or the energy from uranus just tends to stay up.

So far I am leaning towards uranus/aqua and pluto/scorpio in connection to ruler of the 12th or 12th house planets equalling in people who prefer to stay up later than they should and wake up later than they are suppose...bc of how our society is structured.

I would love to hear your theories!! specially your early bird theories.

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Brendan34
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posted June 09, 2014 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definite night owl, time of posting should indicate that. Cancer Ascendant I think may have something to do with it. Moon is in 8th House in Cap. I have a lot of Pisces in my chart, Sun, Venus, Jupiter, MC.

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posted June 09, 2014 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Supreme cT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
I like were you are going with this...break it down for us your thoughts on the matter.

What aspects contribute to early bird and night owls IYO???

I think uranus influence involving the 12th house ruler seems to involve people who prefer to stay up later and wake up later if they had the option...and pluto/scorpio I think as well does this.

Uranus wants to set their own time perhaps rebel a bit agains't schedules and expectations of sleep or the energy from uranus just tends to stay up.

So far I am leaning towards uranus/aqua and pluto/scorpio in connection to ruler of the 12th or 12th house planets equalling in people who prefer to stay up later than they should and wake up later than they are suppose...bc of how our society is structured.

I would love to hear your theories!! specially your early bird theories.


I agree 100% im scorp sun sextile uranus aqua rising nd moon my chart ruler is in 12th house also, i think its the uranus energy that keeps me up i hate waking up early and just like to stay up late and wake up late i hate having a schedule that everyone else has i just cant maintain waking up early and sleeping early

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posted June 09, 2014 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mareaire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have flip flopped with this most of my life. if i have no reason to wake up early, i end up going to bed very late. and sleeping in. i used to work a baking job that started at 2am....loved it.

i am struggling with waking up early right now. it's driving me crazy, it's impossible to get out of bed before 9am and i feel like i am wasting so much time.

i guess i need a good reason to get up early, and some more will power. because when i do wake up early i LOVE mornings. i think my lazyness is a transit or something, and my sleeping in is a by product.

i also do better with less sleep. and i'm totally oversleeping right now. Not Good!

mars conj asc and sun (12th) gemini
all opp uranus-jupiter
moon in cap 8th
born at sunrise

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posted June 09, 2014 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Night Owl.

Most of the Planets below the Horizons.

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amelia28
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posted June 09, 2014 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Night Owl.

Most of the Planets below the Horizons.


What do you mean below the horizon??

Like the first and second quadrant??

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posted June 09, 2014 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ascendant is the Eastern Horizon.

Descendant is the Western.

Where the Sun Rises and Sets.

Anything from First to Sixth is below (Nighttime.)

Seventh to Twelfth is above (Daytime.)

Above is the Day (when the Sun is in the Sky,) Below is the Night (when the Sun is below the Earth.)

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posted June 09, 2014 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sailor Gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Night Owl. I blame my Gemini/Air Dominance.

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posted June 09, 2014 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Ascendant is the Eastern Horizon.

Descendant is the Western.

Where the Sun Rises and Sets.

Anything from First to Sixth is below (Nighttime.)

Seventh to Twelfth is above (Daytime.)

Above is the Day (when the Sun is in the Sky,) Below is the Night (when the Sun is below the Earth.)



Interesting, thank you.

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Ellynlvx
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posted June 09, 2014 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Ascendant is the Eastern Horizon.

Descendant is the Western.

Where the Sun Rises and Sets.

Anything from First to Sixth is below (Nighttime.)

Seventh to Twelfth is above (Daytime.)

Above is the Day (when the Sun is in the Sky,) Below is the Night (when the Sun is below the Earth.)


I knew this, but what didn't make sense to me is the 12th is this mystical and/or house filled with self-undoing, prison, etc. Great things too but as is natural with most people the bad stands out.

It's above the horizon. It makes sense to me that that type of house would be below...? I'm not saying it is. But is it like, others see our 12th but it escapes the owner of it because it's just outside of the asc.. The self? How does that work?


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Ellynlvx
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posted June 09, 2014 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's kind of divided into a Self half, and Others half.

The bottom relates to the inner world and the top the outer.

I do agree about the Pisces House, but that's where the Sun rises...

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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
I think it's kind of divided into a Self half, and Others half.

The bottom relates to the inner world and the top the outer.

I do agree about the Pisces House, but that's where the Sun rises...


Thanks!

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LaFatale
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posted June 10, 2014 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaFatale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Night owl for 10 years since I was 17. I usually sleep around 4AM to 6AM and wake up around noon to 2pm. I blame this on my moon in cancer & mercury opposition pluto. I resonate with the moon so much.

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posted June 10, 2014 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
I really really don't think any of these placements would make you a night owl except maybe moon conjunct mc. 5th house is a fire sign house, and house OF the sun, Mars conjunct sun definitely doesn't make you want to stay up late. If anything that is a morning bird's aspect. What other placements do you have? Water or Earth. Any scorpio?

Check to all of those others you mentioned: Moon in Pisces conj MC, Sun in Scorpio

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posted June 10, 2014 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrettyVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
I get so depressed if I leave bed later than 8am that my day is usually ruined after that :-/ My favorite time is taking a stroll in forest between 530-6am, have a coffee by 730 and then get on with the rest. There's something extremely serene with very early mornings and I have been known to wake up around 4am and head out for a run.

I was born early as hell and don't need much sleep-mars conj asc??

I also like having most sex in the mornings. Actually, I like everything to be done in the mornings!

Don't know what other aspects to mention...I have sun (cancer) opposite moon (cap-5H).


mars conjunct asc… you're soooo lucky. Beyonce has mars in her 1st house and they say she doesn't sleep at all. Always working.

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posted June 10, 2014 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Night born but I love the morning.

Birds singing, sunrises, calmness..


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posted April 10, 2016 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm fire dominant and I'm definitely an early bird. From what I have noticed, fire and earth dominant people are more likely to be early birds, air and water dominant people are more likely to be night owls.

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posted April 10, 2016 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XzaultaX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im a teen everyone atmy age likes to stay up late.

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posted January 29, 2019 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PrettyVirgo:
mars conjunct asc… you're soooo lucky. Beyonce has mars in her 1st house and they say she doesn't sleep at all. Always working.


Her Mars is in the 1st degree of Leo (1'28) and they had her listed as a Leo Ascendant back then. Out of 29'59 degrees, it is very likely that her Leo Rising was after the first degree, so her Leo Mars would have to have been in the 12th House.

However, they've changed her birth time from 4:37AM to 10AM giving her a Third Decan Libra Rising with a Libra Stellium of Mercury, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn placed in the 2nd House as opposed to the 3rd House (Leo ASC). What do you think?

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posted January 29, 2019 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRVM614K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn conjunct asc in 12th sounds accurate. Night owl

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posted January 30, 2019 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a night owl. I think it's a combo of my Leo sun and Cancer moon. Cats are naturally nocturnal so I think Leos do inherit some of those traits. Also, the Moon does rule the night time and I feel more energized at night than during the day. I don't like sleeping in for too long, however. I like to get some sunlight during the day.

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hypatia238
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posted January 30, 2019 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But Leo is ruled by the sun so loves daylight.

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Hikaru29
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posted January 31, 2019 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a night owl. Neptunian... I need a lot of sleep. 😴

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Mariamne Mara
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posted February 01, 2019 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mariamne Mara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was born close to 12 p.m. and can't stand the sunlight. Afternoon is the lowest point of energy to me. The worst hour. My natal Aqua Mars is in 12th house, so I prefer that moment of the day during the sunset or before sun rising. I feel more energized.

I like sleepping a lot. I go to bed at 00:00 a.m. or 1:00 a.m. on weekends. I like to get up early but just for having a little time with me, having breakfast alone while the sun hasn't rised yet and nobody is in the streets is paradise for me.

I love storms, rain, cloudy and dark weather. Maybe is my Uranus conjunct my MC.


I only can stand direct sunlight if I'm in the swimming pool or in the beach and even in those circumstances, I go swimming when the sun starts down or is the dawn time. Always wearing sunglasses, even if it's cloudy. Oh, I love cloudy days and darkness.


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