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Astro keen
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posted June 01, 2014 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said Gabby!

I have been told umpteen times that I was a queen in Ancient Egypt, (Kleopatra, meaning Egyptian royal, on Saturn exact) and had even earlier lives in Sumeria (DNA conj Sumerai). So what!!!

It doesn't make me any better than anyone else. If anything, it places me in this slow learner category. Possibly slow learner who's slipped up often, and has masses of karma to resolve.

The baby souls, in contrast, probably pipped me to the post and are on their next round, so to speak. As we all must at some point. This cycle is never ending btw. So, who is old, pray?

It seems that, according to Leorpio, the wise are overly earnest and weighed heavily with the sense of their own importance. SMUG, in other words.

Best to be avoided under all conditions!

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posted June 02, 2014 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Babysmackle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know. Some people with very light energy are dastardly and mercurial. I find the heavy saturnine energy initially more bitter in the short run but always better in the long run. It's that 'do your homework and eat your greens so you can learn and grow energy'.

I find that when this energy is present I feel safer with my choices. I feel the guidance from the light ones is good too. Some people have both and become one or the other for whatever purpose.

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posted June 02, 2014 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrokeen, your so right!! I think it's funny how ppl get so caught up in labeling themselves as important and they don't realize they just lowered themselves by proving they care about the unimportant things. True teachers realize they are servant not the master. They are hear to serve not to be served.

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Gabby
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posted June 02, 2014 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Leorpio
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posted June 02, 2014 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. Wise one is just a title >_> Its not to say you are wise by any means. To even claim to be wise is the very antithesis of being wise. In my opinion only a wise person would admit that there is more they don't know than they do know. It simply implies you've gone into occult knowledge in past life times and were adept at it. Astrokeen that is not what I was referencing to at all, that's really uncalled for to assume something like that. None of this has anything to do with importance and it seems like such a recurring theme in this forum for people to be overly discerning or critical. Really must be the fact that its chart is a scorpio sun...

Its simply trivia from past lives. I wasn't referencing the age of the soul as the main criteria for being a "wise one". It really comes down to were you an occult practitioner in past lives, which might explain why you're interested in the occult in this life. The label or age of the soul I could give **** all about, its the past life tendencies that interests me.

About the heavy energy, its not so much fear as it is a kind of pain or sadness from all of the suffering the soul has seen in its life times. Many apparently have such high hopes for humanity but are flustered by the constant negativity it tends to exhibit. It also involves being persecuted through many life times for knowledge of the occult. But of course, we all must eventually get rid of this karmic pain in order to ascend into higher realms.

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posted June 02, 2014 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HRH-FishAreFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The teacher who is indeed wise does not bid you to enter the house of his wisdom but rather leads you to the threshold of your mind.

~ Khalil Gibran


By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.

~ Confucius


It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf.

~ Walter Lippmann


The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.

~ Socrates


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posted June 02, 2014 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HRH-FishAreFish:
The teacher who is indeed wise does not bid you to enter the house of his wisdom but rather leads you to the threshold of your mind.

~ Khalil Gibran


By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.

~ Confucius


It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf.

~ Walter Lippmann


The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.

~ Socrates


LOve & LIght ,
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Wise words from Wise men I particularly love Confucius's quote. Experience is indeed the bitterest way of learning any type of wisdom.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 02, 2014 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you know any Wise ones, Leorpio?

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Leorpio
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posted June 02, 2014 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To be honest, I don't think I know any personally, but I do think I've met some. That's why I was wondering if any on here feel these traits match them xD.

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posted June 02, 2014 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Really ? *sniff* *sniff* I can smell something.

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posted June 02, 2014 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Really ? *sniff* *sniff* I can smell something.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 02, 2014 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
To be honest, I don't think I know any personally, but I do think I've met some. That's why I was wondering if any on here feel these traits match them xD.

You mean if someone here considers himself/herself a Wise one? That would be unwise.

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posted June 02, 2014 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I mean, you can immediately spot the Unwise one just by the fact that he/she considers himself Wise.

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posted June 02, 2014 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Err, the humanity that needs help from the wise ones, who are they?

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Heartsong11
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posted June 02, 2014 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I mean, you can immediately spot the Unwise one just by the fact that he/she considers himself Wise.


I consider confidence and trust in my inner knowledge to be wise.

We are all here to learn and grow. In my eyes it's the whole point of the human experience. But I do believe that some are more in touch with their true inner self than the next.
This doesn't mean that a person who has more wisdom than the next is more important it just means they are at a different stage of their journey.

Clearly if we compare someone like the Dalai Lama to someone driven by their ego's desire for materialism we can say the Dalai Lama is wiser than him.

To say that anyone who considers themselves wise is clearly unwise is like saying someone who thinks they know and understand astrology clearly doesn't have a clue what they are talking about.

I don't think when the OP asked if anyone considered themselves to be a Wise One it was meant all that literally.

I don't think there is any harm in having confidence in your own wisdom once we are still open to learn and open to change our views. In fact I would encourage people to have more faith in their own knowledge and trust their instincts. We are supposed to rely only on our self in order to grow and we cannot do that without having trust in ourselves.

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posted June 02, 2014 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I believe knowing one still has much to learn is wise. It's the mind-set that one doesn't have anything left to learn and is here only to teach, that to me is not wise.

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posted June 02, 2014 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes I believe knowing one still has much to learn is wise. It's the mind-set that one doesn't have anything left to learn and is here only to teach, that to me is not wise.


That I agree with.


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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 02, 2014 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heartsong,

I agree with you on being confident in one's knowledge and qualities. But no extreme is good, in my opinion. One of the characteristics of a wise person to me is being humble, at least in public lol and your Dalai Lama example is a good one in this respect. The "wise" ones are busy with learning new things and exchanging knowledge. Being excessively preoccupied with thoughts of self-importance and constantly prophesizing one's self-importance in public doesn't look wise to me.

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posted June 02, 2014 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Yes I believe knowing one still has much to learn is wise. It's the mind-set that one doesn't have anything left to learn and is here only to teach, that to me is not wise.


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Heartsong11
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posted June 02, 2014 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Heartsong,

I agree with you on being confident in one's knowledge and qualities. But no extreme is good, in my opinion. One of characteristics of a wise person to me is being humble, at least in public lol and your Dalai Lama example is a good one in this respect. The "wise" ones are busy with learning new things and exchanging knowledge. Being excessively preoccupied with thoughts of self-importance and constantly prophesizing one's self-importance in public doesn't look wise to me.


Maybe I missed something? But I didn't think anyone was constantly prophesizing their self importance in public here.

But then I wouldn't notice if they were because I'm too busy off learning and exchanging knowledge myself.

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posted June 02, 2014 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But then I wouldn't notice if they were because I'm too busy off learning and exchanging knowledge myself.


lol good point! so let the unwise and not-so-busy ones decide who's prophesizing what

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Heartsong11
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posted June 02, 2014 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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lol good point! so let the unwise and not-so-busy ones decide who's prophesizing what

Lol
Exactly

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Leorpio
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posted June 02, 2014 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ Really ? *sniff* *sniff* I can smell something.

I'm going to ignore this and pretend you aren't trying to make some immature insinuation. Because the only thing you're smelling is your own assumptions. ^_^

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posted June 02, 2014 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Bravo!! that was a wise move.

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Barbiegirl19
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posted June 02, 2014 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me me me🙋🙋. In my own way I feel I am very wise. I feel like an ooooooooold woman compared to others my age. I've always been the more mature friend, sister, cousin etc. Saturn rocks my chart! Know things that I shouldn't know lol, like I've already been here several times.

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