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Leorpio
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posted May 30, 2014 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wise ones are ancient human souls that have been incarnating for millenia and have been sorcerers, magicians, high priests and priestesses, shamans, and other spiritual leaders. The key thing is they all tend to have knowledge of earth based spirituality, primarily astrology. Other Earth Angels usually don't know their sun, moon, and rising signs, while wise ones almost always know all 3.

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anonymidarkness
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posted May 30, 2014 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you mean anyone who knows their big 3 can be considered wise ones ?
Where did you read it ?

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posted May 30, 2014 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I had vivid memories of past lives (and I didn't even believe in reincarnation when it happened) I had memories going back thousands of years. Was never anyone famous (and I died as a child A LOT), but I was mystical in more than one, including a revered priestess in an ancient Swedish village (one of the few that I grew old in, ironic considering how barbaric it was, heck we not only made magic potions for healing and mysticism but also poisons for the arrows against invaders, arrows that gave us a reputation so that few dared invade, and we also were able to trade in potions to raiders which dulled their fear and made them resistant to pain which made some of them fight for our favor to keep a steady supply; we were very mystical yet still, for pragmatic reasons, doubled as drug dealers on the side ).

I never really considered myself any kind of "old soul" or "wise one." I was first introduced to the term by a flaky new ager who first said I was an "indigo" who questioned authority, but the moment I questioned her authority (simply challenging her reasoning) I was instantly demoted to "young soul." I've been cynical about terms like that ever since.

Though I recall when I first started interacting online when I was 17 and I joined a board for witches (primarily pagan but not necessarily Wiccan) and I was a teenage spitfire (not flaming but very passionate in promoting radical ideas & ideals, and I was far less restrained in my silliness than I am today)...even some of the older witches gave me respect though (still made allowances for my age at times) and I found it odd when people much older than me wanted my advice, and one grandmother even wanted to "apprentice" herself to me (which amused an occult teacher and a witch in my life who were teaching me and both were also members on that board, though neither participated as much as I did).

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posted May 30, 2014 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would a wise person really know whether or not they are wise?

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PixieJane
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posted May 30, 2014 05:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I forgot to ask...so what if one is a Wise One? Surely a Wise One would only dwell on this if there was a good reason to. What is the reason?

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posted May 30, 2014 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before when Astrology wasn't so mainstream knowing all 3 might have meant something, not sure in today's society.

Maybe the wise one's in today's society know that they're none of those 3 but the soul that permeates all of them?

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Leorpio
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posted May 31, 2014 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well contrary to what SDragon said, if you go on the streets and ask people what their sun, moon, and rising signs are, they'll be like wtf are you talking about? The thing is, while its gaining in popularity as people see its accurate (thank the creator), its still very fringe and small.

Wise ones, however, have a natural inclination to earth based spirituality and chief among these is astrology since it literally makes the earth its center focus. Wise ones are usually very serious and somber, find themselves teaching a lot, etc. They have a heavy energy. The reason they've come back is to help humanity along spiritually and help us ascend during this great time. They have also come back to be teachers and help people get into the spiritual and occult side of life, like we were in ages past.

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posted May 31, 2014 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So you really do mean just because people know their Sun, Moon and Rising sign, they can be considered Wise Ones, okay then, time for some celebration Wise ones can join me!!


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posted May 31, 2014 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think I am, though I believe I am currently experiencing myself as a teacher. But it is not a path I have settled on yet, nor mastered.

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I'm so cappy
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posted May 31, 2014 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted May 31, 2014 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wise ones, however, have a natural inclination to earth based spirituality and chief among these is astrology since it literally makes the earth its center focus. Wise ones are usually very serious and somber, find themselves teaching a lot, etc. They have a heavy energy. The reason they've come back is to help humanity along spiritually and help us ascend during this great time. They have also come back to be teachers and help people get into the spiritual and occult side of life, like we were in ages past.[/B]

Teaching yes - very serious and sober, not sure about that. Maybe when they're not around people that understand them but I'm sure many wise ones also understand the whole play of creation and have also learned not to take it seriously.

Children want to grow up and play like adults which is a real shame. I wish more adults would learn how to play like children.

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posted May 31, 2014 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Exactly. Seriousness kills the creativity.

Life is a game. Enjoy it while it lasts. Whether you're a "wise" one or not, it does not really matter.

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posted May 31, 2014 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:


This is such an unnecessary response.

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posted May 31, 2014 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
Wise ones, however, have a natural inclination to earth based spirituality and chief among these is astrology since it literally makes the earth its center focus. Wise ones are usually very serious and somber, find themselves teaching a lot, etc. They have a heavy energy. The reason they've come back is to help humanity along spiritually and help us ascend during this great time. They have also come back to be teachers and help people get into the spiritual and occult side of life, like we were in ages past.

I really connect with this. I know I am an old soul, I feel connected to the past in a way that very few of the people around me are. I've always been somewhat serious and always found myself connecting well with adults - even as a child. I was always the peacemaker within every group of friends, relatives, etc. and people have always looked to me as a leader in some ways - but not an authoritarian.

I have often played counselor for adults double my age, and I have people have told me that I am an old soul my entire life. I have always been drawn towards healing and am an empath - emotional and psychic. I don't need to think about whether or not I'm an old soul - I think if you are one, then you just know.

Side Note: Has anybody ever read The Wheel of Time, if you do, then the "Wise Ones".......hehehehhhehe

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posted May 31, 2014 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seriousness is overrated.

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posted May 31, 2014 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Seriousness is overrated.

Agreed, I'm much more goofy now, but I still have that side.

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posted May 31, 2014 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha I consider myself to be wise for my age. My generation is just full of idiots

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posted June 01, 2014 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Haha I consider myself to be wise for my age. My generation is just full of idiots

Its not if you consider yourself wise, though you very well could be. Its if the characteristics of wise ones matches your own and you feel drawn or connected to that energy. Though idiots is such a negative term. Simply ignorant or un-awake would suffice.

The primary aspects of being a wise one is 1.) Being heavily into any earth based spirituality 2.) Being comfortable with the darker side of life 3.) having numerous psychic, paranormal, or spiritual experiences 4.) in past lives was a sorcer/ess, high priest/ess, shaman, any spiritual leader or occult practitioner 5.) What they would call an old soul, who has been around the block many times. 6.) tends to be more serious, though they oscilate between seriousness and playfulness due to many experiences with those of the elemental realm. 7.) Have deep past life distrust towards the church and major religions due to persecution (witch trials, etc.)

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posted June 01, 2014 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been told by a psychic that I'm an old soul before. I just don't know if I actually am. I've also had weird experiences and I have a strong attachment to the past. I'm just not sure about being a shaman or witch or anything like that. I honestly haven't tapped on to my psychic abilities yet. All I know is that I have them, though they're not strong. I can be pretty serious sometimes and then switch to being all outgoing and fun the next. I don't fear religions either, but I'm scared of the "dark side". I find it interesting, but I'd never have the courage to explore it further. I'm not a wise one, I don't think. Just a wise person for my age, that is.

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posted June 01, 2014 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
Its not if you consider yourself wise, though you very well could be. Its if the characteristics of wise ones matches your own and you feel drawn or connected to that energy. Though idiots is such a negative term. Simply ignorant or un-awake would suffice.

The primary aspects of being a wise one is 1.) Being heavily into any earth based spirituality 2.) Being comfortable with the darker side of life 3.) having numerous psychic, paranormal, or spiritual experiences 4.) in past lives was a sorcer/ess, high priest/ess, shaman, any spiritual leader or occult practitioner 5.) What they would call an old soul, who has been around the block many times. 6.) tends to be more serious, though they oscilate between seriousness and playfulness due to many experiences with those of the elemental realm. 7.) Have deep past life distrust towards the church and major religions due to persecution (witch trials, etc.)


I was a shaman in my past life. At least, the most recent one I have been able to remember. I don't believe this has been a recurring theme though. My lives before that were quite ordinary. Well, as ordinary as any person with a soul like mine can be. I'm a true aquarius. Recently however (as in, in recent lives) I am beginning to experience mySelf as teacher, to see if this is what I wish to dedicate mySelf to. I am also contemplating exploring.

Not all will understand what I mean. #thatisok

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Heartsong11
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posted June 01, 2014 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I would agree with this.
Since age 3 I knew things I shouldn't. I would say really random things to my mum about God that were far too deep for a young child.

And even before my current obsession with Astrology I knew my signs from very early on. In fact, I remember telling all my friends in primary school and asking them to find out what their signs were.

I didn't have a clue what it all meant but I was aware that it meant something to me.

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posted June 01, 2014 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
Would a wise person really know whether or not they are wise?

Other people call me old soul. I really don't know. In comparison to what? I think it's arrogant to say you're wise or even claim to recognize it.

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posted June 01, 2014 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait.... What did I just walk into.

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posted June 01, 2014 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leorpio:

The primary aspects of being a wise one is 1.) Being heavily into any earth based spirituality 2.) Being comfortable with the darker side of life 3.) having numerous psychic, paranormal, or spiritual experiences 4.) in past lives was a sorcer/ess, high priest/ess, shaman, any spiritual leader or occult practitioner 5.) What they would call an old soul, who has been around the block many times. 6.) tends to be more serious, though they oscilate between seriousness and playfulness due to many experiences with those of the elemental realm. 7.) Have deep past life distrust towards the church and major religions due to persecution (witch trials, etc.)

How do these traits make one wise ?

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posted June 01, 2014 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leorpio:
Well contrary to what SDragon said, if you go on the streets and ask people what their sun, moon, and rising signs are, they'll be like wtf are you talking about? The thing is, while its gaining in popularity as people see its accurate (thank the creator), its still very fringe and small.

Wise ones, however, have a natural inclination to earth based spirituality and chief among these is astrology since it literally makes the earth its center focus. Wise ones are usually very serious and somber, find themselves teaching a lot, etc. They have a heavy energy. The reason they've come back is to help humanity along spiritually and help us ascend during this great time. They have also come back to be teachers and help people get into the spiritual and occult side of life, like we were in ages past.


I agree with most of this except the heavy energy....truly wise ppl know there is not a single thing served by being somber or heavy....did you know in some hospitals they are using a laughing therapy as part of a cure for cancer? It actually works!

A heavy energy means a heavy heart, a heavy heart means the person has given themselves over to fear and a wise one knows fear is the root of all evil and all sickness and death.
A wise one would not allow that to happen because it would defeat the purpose of life, that purpose is to become light and elevate yourself back into what you really are, energy.
Its only the physical body that gives weight and that weight gets heavier with fear and lighter with love.
We as spirit beings wouldn't know what a heavy heart, heavy energy or the weight of a physical body was if we didn't need to learn the lesson about fear. We are here to learn how fear is the darkness that destroys the light, the light that is love that keeps our energy vibrating so high that we are weightless spirit beings.
We have physical, heavy life here on Earth to learn how to juggle these forces, the fear and the light. To learn how they play off each other, how they change each other. We learn what fear really is, how it operates, what it looks like, what it leads to and how to defeat it with love.
Eventually, we can learn to defeat fear enough that we will lighten our energy and be able to return to our spirit form free of the heavy physical form. We will return with a great abundance of knowledge that we learned during our human experience...and be much more like God, knowing both good and evil but also knowing how to defend ourselves from evils tricks, or another way to say it is, we will know how to defeat our fears and not allow them to bring us down and create pain that we unintentionally spread to others.

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