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Rick_Grayson
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posted June 04, 2014 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick_Grayson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Jupiter/Saturn here with Uranus in the 1st house. Not much here to learn from on the internet. I will admit that younger people do look up to me and I've forged a few relationships or gained mentors with people twice my age.

Sadly there is this constant battle with wanting to be in a group and craving independence or leadership. Doesn't make much sense but that's the way it goes lol.

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posted June 05, 2014 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
According to Vedic Astrology, the 11th house is by far the most important of all houses. It is said to be the "seat" of the soul.

The 11th house is your hopes and dreams, your wishes, your ideals and what you envision as the ultimate world you want to live in.

In traditional astrology, the Sun rules the 4th(birth) and 11th house(who you hope to be). And Sun, as we know, is the "heart" of life; it is the directive of living.

So when you say you have Uranus and Pluto in 11th it could indicate someone whose visions of "Utopia" are so progressive, that people around you wont understand(this is Uranus manifestation)

It could also mean that they are intertwined with "healing", spiritual power or inner awareness(Pluto).

Pluto there also suggests that you have strong passions for your ideals and hopes. And if either of these planets aspects other planets in the houses mentioned, it is likely that their influence will filter in there too(as Uranus and Pluto are trans-personal planets)

Uranus and Pluto are slow moving and so, their impact on us(when aspecting the personal planets and more especially our the personal angles)is HUGE. Things will change and we do not "miss" their transits.

We may not always be aware of what is happening with us ,but we can sure remember what it was like when we went through it. This is trans-personal planets in action.

Where are Pluto and Uranus transiting now? My guess is Pluto is currently transiting the 2nd/3rd house? Uranus is transiting the 5th/6th house?

Do you see what I mean about not being able to "side-step" them at all?


My 11th lord is debilitated and most of my planets are sitting in the 11th suffering under that debilitation. Tells you about my life.

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posted June 05, 2014 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
11th house is the house of good spirit.

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LucieLemonade
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posted June 05, 2014 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
11th house is the house of good spirit.

How do I harness the power of the good spirit?

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posted June 05, 2014 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
How do I harness the power of the good spirit?

11th housers would say by being friendly and ethical and by networking with the like-minded.

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posted June 05, 2014 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
11th housers would say by being friendly and ethical and by networking with the like-minded.

I do that..... Not sure it's workin'.

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posted June 05, 2014 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I do that..... Not sure it's workin'.


What is it you think keeps it from working?

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posted June 05, 2014 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
What is it you think keeps it from working?

I don't know. Like I said in the whole thread. I don't feel this house or these placements. The 11th is vague and doesn't really play a role in my life at this time.

It's possible I need to perhaps do something or work on something to get this activated so that maybe I could find a life path/direction/something, maybe?

Or maybe not. Maybe I could continue to ignore this house.

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posted June 05, 2014 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a full progressed eleventh house with five progressed planets and I didn't see how it worked for a while but now I do. Look and see what your progressed planets are up to.

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posted June 06, 2014 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I have a full progressed eleventh house with five progressed planets and I didn't see how it worked for a while but now I do. Look and see what your progressed planets are up to.

Pluto didn't move so much. Uranus just moved a bit further but still in 11th. The only real difference is I now have the MC smack in the middle of the 11th! See, I had a feeling the 11th would be a clue as to how I'm going to find work/life path etc.....

But really, now what?! Sigh. I need concrete steps. LOL. step 1....



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posted June 06, 2014 04:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I kinda like the 11th house... since it's your "hopes and dreams" and all that lol. I have Mars and POF in 11th, but sorry I probably can't help much explaining your Pluto-Uranus there since generational planets are a little harder to define when there's more than one in a house imo...

Where's the ruler of your 11th?

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posted June 06, 2014 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
I kinda like the 11th house... since it's your "hopes and dreams" and all that lol. I have Mars and POF in 11th, but sorry I probably can't help much explaining your Pluto-Uranus there since generational planets are a little harder to define when there's more than one in a house imo...

Where's the ruler of your 11th?


11th house is Virgo. Merc is in Sag in the 2nd square Pluto actually..... hmmmm.

Any and all insight so very welcome! Anything helps.

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florence
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posted June 06, 2014 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto in the 11th (libra) and don't feel this house much either at least as I understand it as to doing with groups / friends / being progressive. But things mentioned here make me think I've missed a lot on it. But, like you- I think, I'm not grasping it because it isn't an area I feel passionate about.

However, I think it was to do with oppositions someone mention that Pluto is all or nothing so is identifiable in it's absence. I have noticed that whilst I'm generally not interested in these areas .... When I am, I am extremely immersed in them. Do you have an opposition making an absence of your Pluto?

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posted June 06, 2014 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
I kinda like the 11th house... since it's your "hopes and dreams" and all that lol. I have Mars and POF in 11th, but sorry I probably can't help much explaining your Pluto-Uranus there since generational planets are a little harder to define when there's more than one in a house imo...

Where's the ruler of your 11th?


Can you help explain which planetary influence brings the hopes and dreams aspect so I can file it in my mind properly 11th is Aquarius / Uranus ? But I think of 12th as hopes and dreams

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posted June 06, 2014 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by florence:
I have Pluto in the 11th (libra) and don't feel this house much either at least as I understand it as to doing with groups / friends / being progressive. But things mentioned here make me think I've missed a lot on it. But, like you- I think, I'm not grasping it because it isn't an area I feel passionate about.

However, I think it was to do with oppositions someone mention that Pluto is all or nothing so is identifiable in it's absence. I have noticed that whilst I'm generally not interested in these areas .... When I am, I am extremely immersed in them. Do you have an opposition making an absence of your Pluto?


I only have square moon & square Merc, and the generational sextile with Nep. Pluto here is at 29deg so it's supposed to be important.... Oh, actually now that I look it's opp Chiron at 7deg.

But as you say, it's not something I'm passionate about. I don't really like "group" things so I don't participate in them.

We'll just need to keep working on this.

Thanks everyone for their input! More always welcome.

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Originally posted by florence:
Can you help explain which planetary influence brings the hopes and dreams aspect so I can file it in my mind properly 11th is Aquarius / Uranus ? But I think of 12th as hopes and dreams

It is kind of hard to explain the planetary influences with Aqua being co-ruled by Saturn and Uranus.. 12th house is dreams but it's more about the subconscious, whereas Aqua has ideals and wants them put into action. Which I guess makes sense considering Uranus is "visionary" and Saturn is all about efforts and rewards, both relate to the future. Anyway idk if that makes sense, but for me the 11th house makes me think of "The Star" tarot card

I know it's not exactly about astrology but this article is actually a great description of what the 11th house is all about imo... If you're interested in a comparison, look up descriptions for "the moon" in tarot which is more like the 12th house
http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/learn/meanings/star.shtml

eta, ok sorry I realized after posting this I should've chose a different image of that card since this one is black and white and looks very Neptunian so it's not the best example of how 11th house is different than 12th.. and idk why I'm rambling on about tarot and imagery anyway but transiting Mercury is actually in my 12th house right now lol sorry...

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
11th house is Virgo. Merc is in Sag in the 2nd square Pluto actually..... hmmmm.

Any and all insight so very welcome! Anything helps.


Hmm so my first thought is that being in Sag, living/working abroad could be important to you and also rewarding financially, you easily make friends with ppl of different cultural backgrounds, etc... Idk does the Sag theme make sense for you? With 2nd house I'd think you could literally make money by working with some sort of humanitarian organization or maybe even starting your own project of some kind...

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posted June 06, 2014 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Pluto didn't move so much. Uranus just moved a bit further but still in 11th. The only real difference is I now have the MC smack in the middle of the 11th! See, I had a feeling the 11th would be a clue as to how I'm going to find work/life path etc.....

But really, now what?! Sigh. I need concrete steps. LOL. step 1....



Do you feel like you need to be involved in a humanitarian cause of some kind? Something that you volunteer for and just want the satisfaction of helping others out as payment?

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posted June 07, 2014 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
Hmm so my first thought is that being in Sag, living/working abroad could be important to you and also rewarding financially, you easily make friends with ppl of different cultural backgrounds, etc... Idk does the Sag theme make sense for you? With 2nd house I'd think you could literally make money by working with some sort of humanitarian organization or maybe even starting your own project of some kind...


I've live abroad for the last 20 years and I speak 5 languages. So maybe my 11th is working some how!

I do think I'd be good at working in a humanitarian/non profit environment. I live near Geneva, but getting into the UN/NGOs is really very very tough. Maybe I could look for a smaller organization/charity/non-profit.

I have also though about doing my own things/starting my own business, but with a heavy 7th house, I mostly feel I need to work with a partner of some sort. It's very difficult for me to work alone.

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Do you feel like you need to be involved in a humanitarian cause of some kind? Something that you volunteer for and just want the satisfaction of helping others out as payment?

I think this could very well be the key! I do often think that I'd like to work in at something that is useful in some way. I'm in marketing and often roll my eyes at having to "push" products. I should really look into this further!

Geez, I LOVE you guys!!!

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posted June 07, 2014 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
[B] It is kind of hard to explain the planetary influences with Aqua being co-ruled by Saturn and Uranus.. 12th house is dreams but it's more about the subconscious, whereas Aqua has ideals and wants them put into action. Which I guess makes sense considering Uranus is "visionary" and Saturn is all about efforts and rewards, both relate to the future. Anyway idk if that makes sense, but for me the 11th house makes me think of

Thank you. That does help. The word 'ideals' helps me distinguish from subconscious dreaming.

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posted June 08, 2014 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, there is one good thing about my retro Jupiter. I believe it saved me from religion.

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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posted June 08, 2014 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think this could very well be the key! I do often think that I'd like to work in at something that is useful in some way. I'm in marketing and often roll my eyes at having to "push" products. I should really look into this further!

You could gain a lot of personal satisfaction from showing people the way. I think of 11th house person as holding a latern showing ppl the way, kinda like the hermit. People can still see the light and follow it. At the same time, it is a bit lonely in this house. It's like being a face in the crowd. Aloof yet surrounded by people one is not close to but can influence in some way. Think of how you can guide others.

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Geez, I LOVE you guys!!!

Thank you!

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posted January 28, 2015 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hodad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a Sun/Venus in Cancer with a strong Neptune,planets in the 4th,8th and 12th and always thought of myself in those terms but have planets in the 11th house also.I don't quite have a grip on that house,it is the Aqua house and I see it as a bit detached and impersonal.
I think part of it is seeing a broader view of things and yes,being somewhat detached,but wanting to help humanity as a whole--
It could be about joining groups that are about benefiting large groups of people and the planet itself.That could include a wide range of organizations including environmental groups such as the Sierra Club,etc
It's like that Charlie Brown quote--

"I love humanity,it's people I can't stand!"

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posted January 28, 2015 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 11H is also the result of your hard work or direction in life come manifest (MC). How you earn your money/are rewarded from career endeavors (for you, I'm guessing, ruled by your SUN). You may turn around and transform (PLUTO) these rewards into realizing your humanitarian ideals (URANUS). You may feel for the financial (PLUTO) and health (Virgo, 2H MERCURY) plight of the less fortunate.

The 11H is also how the world receives you. Virgo cusp - you are seen as someone with very high standards, and a knack for improving upon what you touch (PLUTO). URANUS means you're unconventional in your methods. You have an inborn ability to weave a wide network of contacts, especially online or through organizational means, though you may not be particularly close to any one of them (PLUTO is fairly picky). You're still able to charm people's pants off, however (Libra).

URANUS in 11H may also make you tech-savvy, and have a huge love for invention and innovation.

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posted January 28, 2015 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love that this thread has been dug out of the archives this very morning. An earlier post got me thinking about yoga, which got me thinking about Dakini dance, which got me thinking about Tantra (bingo!).

From here I started thinking about my Venus and Mars placement and aspects. They sit on either side of my 11th house. Venus is aligned with Sirius, so Firemoon's contribution of the Star tarot card is fitting in more than one way. The meaning of the 11th house as described by Aries23Degrees and Firemoon is so true to me, and the image of the Star card itself LOOKS like my Venus (aligned with Sirius, the star in he sky) and Mars on either side of my 11th house- the urns refilling the pool, so people who are thirsty can drink.

Yeah...it's just me, the universe, and a cup of coffee this morning...afternoon...

Thanks Hodad and the universe.

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