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LucieLemonade
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posted June 04, 2014 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been on this journey for about a year now to understand astrology and my chart/self in particular.

I've got a lot of it down. The important houses for me, the ones that have planets like 1, 2, 12, 7 and the aspects, nodes, etc. I don't quite get the empty houses yet but my question is this:

I have Pluto and Uranus in the 11th and to be honest, I don't really "get" what that is all about and it doesn't seem to be that important, in that my life really does seem to revolve around 1, 2, 12 & 7. 11 just does't effect me. Am I missing something?

Can you all give me a bit of insight into the 11th with Pluto (Virgo) and Uranus (Libra)? Am I missing something important?

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posted June 04, 2014 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to Vedic Astrology, the 11th house is by far the most important of all houses. It is said to be the "seat" of the soul.

The 11th house is your hopes and dreams, your wishes, your ideals and what you envision as the ultimate world you want to live in.

In traditional astrology, the Sun rules the 4th(birth) and 11th house(who you hope to be). And Sun, as we know, is the "heart" of life; it is the directive of living.

So when you say you have Uranus and Pluto in 11th it could indicate someone whose visions of "Utopia" are so progressive, that people around you wont understand(this is Uranus manifestation)

It could also mean that they are intertwined with "healing", spiritual power or inner awareness(Pluto).

Pluto there also suggests that you have strong passions for your ideals and hopes. And if either of these planets aspects other planets in the houses mentioned, it is likely that their influence will filter in there too(as Uranus and Pluto are trans-personal planets)

Uranus and Pluto are slow moving and so, their impact on us(when aspecting the personal planets and more especially our the personal angles)is HUGE. Things will change and we do not "miss" their transits.

We may not always be aware of what is happening with us ,but we can sure remember what it was like when we went through it. This is trans-personal planets in action.

Where are Pluto and Uranus transiting now? My guess is Pluto is currently transiting the 2nd/3rd house? Uranus is transiting the 5th/6th house?

Do you see what I mean about not being able to "side-step" them at all?

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LucieLemonade
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posted June 04, 2014 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! Thank you so much!

TBH, I'm not sure I "feel" this house. I don't know what to do with this energy. But it seems I'm missing something very important and it could be the key to getting my life in order(?). I'm a bit lost at this time.

Pluto is at the end of the 2nd and Uranus is in the middle of the 5th.

Let me check the transit aspects.

Right now I have the following transits.

Sun trine Uranus
Pluto square Uranus
Pluto sextile Asc.

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I'm so cappy
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posted June 04, 2014 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish I knew. I have Jupiter there and it's pretty much useless.

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LucieLemonade
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posted June 04, 2014 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I wish I knew. I have Jupiter there and it's pretty much useless.


Meh. I have Jupiter in 1st.... It just makes me fat, ummm, chubby. :P

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posted June 04, 2014 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My condolences

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posted June 04, 2014 06:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I wish I knew. I have Jupiter there and it's pretty much useless.


Useless is better than malign. I have it both in 11 and 12. According to some astro interp I have a bunch of hypocritycal friends , slanders and judgmentals that secretly are my enemies. :)) I'd prefer it to be useless, than a "blessing "in disguise.

11 th is about wishes and also ab friends

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posted June 04, 2014 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Useless when it comes to bringing luck. I've had some unpleasant experiences with "friends". I should probably mention my Chiron is there too (woohoo). I'm a hermit and I don't mind but at least my dreams could bother to come true, especially when I try. Phuck you 11th! It's time to walk away onto the opposite side of the playground (Chiron conjunct SN).

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posted June 04, 2014 06:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I might be wrong, but it's just my thought, jupiter can be mean. Why, because we expect him to be lucky.and sometimes he is not.Unlike Saturn, who has his old devil rep, but as long as you work earnestly he will reward you.


Sorry for being offtopic*

Wondering ab saturn in 11th

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posted June 04, 2014 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Jupiter is retro, btw. Perfect, isn't it?

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Wondering ab saturn in 11th

Ask Doux

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posted June 04, 2014 06:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
My Jupiter is retro, btw. Perfect, isn't it?
[Oh Cappy, trust me, it's not a joy not even if he's direct. For a retro isn't it more like a feeling of being unlucky? What is not smooth is the chiron in there....]
Ask Doux :smirk:
Will do :)

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posted June 04, 2014 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, Chiron is retro too *hysterical laughter*

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For a retro isn't it more like a feeling of being unlucky?

No, I really am unlucky. I hope it changes at least for a couple of years before I croak.

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LucieLemonade
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posted June 04, 2014 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starlitroad:
I might be wrong, but it's just my thought, jupiter can be mean. Why, because we expect him to be lucky.and sometimes he is not.Unlike Saturn, who has his old devil rep, but as long as you work earnestly he will reward you.


Sorry for being offtopic*

Wondering ab saturn in 11th


I love my Jupiter. Though I'm a Sag so I can't hate it!
I don't love the weight struggle. I put on weight easily which is sad as I love food.

But Saturn in the 11th is just like Saturn in the 7th, no? Which I have. It brings focus on partnerships, sort of a need to work with others. I think it probably means you need to be friends with your spouse/partner. I need that too even with it in the 7th.

11th house stuff eludes me so let's hope others can chime in.


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posted June 04, 2014 07:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Oh, Chiron is retro too *hysterical laughter*

[QUOTE]For a retro isn't it more like a feeling of being unlucky?



No, I really am unlucky. I hope it changes at least for a couple of years before I croak.

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Ouch!!! For Charchoal's sake...

Wish you have a happy twist and get lucky!

If u tell me you have Pof retro too ( is that even possible?..lol), I am gonna laugh hysterically together with you. Darn

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posted June 04, 2014 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!
Lol, my PoF isn't retro but it's at the last degree which is considered shi.tty by many. And it's ruled by...Jupiter *shoots herself* Now let's get drunk

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posted June 04, 2014 07:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I love my Jupiter. Though I'm a Sag so I can't hate it! :)
I don't love the weight struggle. I put on weight easily which is sad as I love food.

But Saturn in the 11th is just like Saturn in the 7th, no? Which I have. It brings focus on partnerships, sort of a need to work with others. I think it probably means you need to be friends with your spouse/partner. I need that too even with it in the 7th.

11th house stuff eludes me so let's hope others can chime in.


Ohh, so food strugle is real? I have it trine asc and makes me reallychubby...ofc you would love your jup^^ Like I am trying to love saturn..he's a bit old for my tastes..hehe and harsh with the young ppl...I get you on 7th saturn..I have venus squarw sat and felt is pretty much the same as your placement.

It's interesting u don't feel your pluto in 11th:) also uranus.but pluto-he should make himself noticed in there..is he uhm..unaspected? ^^

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Thanks!
Lol, my PoF isn't retro but it's at the last degree which is considered shi.tty by many. And it's ruled by...Jupiter *shoots herself* Now let's get drunk :)


OMFG. Cappy, my treat!

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LucieLemonade
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posted June 04, 2014 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starlitroad:
Ohh, so food strugle is real? I have it trine asc and makes me reallychubby...ofc you would love your jup^^ Like I am trying to love saturn..he's a bit old for my tastes..hehe and harsh with the young ppl...I get you on 7th saturn..I have venus squarw sat and felt is pretty much the same as your placement.

It's interesting u don't feel your pluto in 11th also uranus.but pluto-he should make himself noticed in there..is he uhm..unaspected? ^^


I do think it makes me struggle with weight. I eat less than many people I know and put on weight faster. I can't eat sugar or I balloon and I LOVE sweets and I love to bake so that is a huge problem. I had to stop baking altogether.

As for Pluto. I do have aspects which I feel. Pluto square moon and merc (H2). Real issues with my mother.

But I don't get/feel/understand how it works in the 11th. And as I get older I think the emotional outbursts that I used to have as a teen have been curbed, except with my mother. I still freak out on her. She really "touches a nerve". And Pluto sextile Nept.

You'll get to love your Saturn when you are older. I don't hate Saturn even though it just recently went opp natal Saturn/across the asc and really really messed up my life! LOL. Those changes really were for the best. But it's put my life in limbo and I'm hoping to sort that out through a better understand of myself and my "destiny"(?)/life path/road to fulfillment, etc, maybe, for myself and not just focused on an "other", though I do love focusing on a partner/spouse.

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I do think it makes me struggle with weight. I eat less than many people I know and put on weight faster. I can't eat sugar or I balloon and I LOVE sweets and I love to bake so that is a huge problem. I had to stop baking altogether.

As for Pluto. I do have aspects which I feel. Pluto square moon and merc (H2). Real issues with my mother.

But I don't get/feel/understand how it works in the 11th. And as I get older I think the emotional outbursts that I used to have as a teen have been curbed, except with my mother. I still freak out on her. :( She really "touches a nerve".

You'll get to love your Saturn when you are older. ;) I don't hate Saturn even though it just recently went opp natal Saturn/across the asc and really really messed up my life! LOL. Those changes really were for the best. But it's put my life in limbo and I'm hoping to sort that out through a better understand of myself and my "destiny"(?)/life path/road to fulfillment, etc, maybe, for myself and not just focused on an "other", though I do love focusing on a partner/spouse.



Owww! I love sweets too! Venus in taurus craveees food and moon conj asc gives water retention. It's a punishment. I don't eat much too.

As for the pluto...ughhh..sorry to hear that. It-s a regretfull aspect ( I have moon square mars but I am sure is not as half as painful as this one...) the square to mercury I am sure u'll figure it out( lately I've read that squares arw internal tension and opposites are external, in which the individual gets reaction from others-so the square is not so much the devil...J have the opp and constantly receive rejections on my ideas or get minimalised but I still go on talking,haha)
The sxtile is not clearly explained since it is generational...maybe u don't feel pluto bcz u already gone through changes while young? Maybe u are acomplished in that area..I won't venture more bcz the experts will give you more insights ^^ thanks with saturn advice, as for now he keeps being a bad boy , transit natal saturn square saturn and saturn conj pluto :D how sweet,you sounded as a true sag-liberty and descovering your path , while being in a responsable rel , might be the thing for a sag with saturn in 7th. I hope yoy find your way:) and ofc the wanted answers

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posted June 04, 2014 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For my new stalker

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posted June 04, 2014 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
For my new stalker


Which one??

quote:
Originally posted by starlitroad:
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Owww! I love sweets too! Venus in taurus craveees food and moon conj asc gives water retention. It's a punishment. I don't eat much too.

As for the pluto...ughhh..sorry to hear that. It-s a regretfull aspect ( I have moon square mars but I am sure is not as half as painful as this one...) the square to mercury I am sure u'll figure it out( lately I've read that squares arw internal tension and opposites are external, in which the individual gets reaction from others-so the square is not so much the devil...J have the opp and constantly receive rejections on my ideas or get minimalised but I still go on talking,haha)
The sxtile is not clearly explained since it is generational...maybe u don't feel pluto bcz u already gone through changes while young? Maybe u are acomplished in that area..I won't venture more bcz the experts will give you more insights ^^ thanks with saturn advice, as for now he keeps being a bad boy , transit natal saturn square saturn and saturn conj pluto how sweet,you sounded as a true sag-liberty and descovering your path , while being in a responsable rel , might be the thing for a sag with saturn in 7th. I hope yoy find your way and ofc the wanted answers

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It's true I probably have grown into some of my "aspects". I often read how "bad" some are and I don't see them as bad. So that must be it. I have a terrible memory, probably on purpose, and have forgotten a lot of things I struggled with until I get reminded of them.

I do love astrology though. It's a fun journey.

I do wish I could make you some cinnamon rolls and we could chat while eating them and drinking coffee.

Or having shots with Cappy.....


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posted June 04, 2014 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun, Venus, Mercury, Saturn, Ceres, Psyche in 11H ALL opposite my Moon and square Pluto, except for Venus which is square Uranus.

Saturn is in Leo.

I have enormous issues with being a TEAM PLAYER and being a LEADER. People want me to be latter but I prefer to "hide" and work behind the scenes. My sun being in 11H I think I am supposed to lead...but it feels safer for me to hide...I wouldn't say I have problems meeting new friends but I will say that when I was younger I was immature between 14-18 and did some stuff which I have paid for in many ways. I now hold on to good friends and have also rekindled some old friendships and apologized for things done.

The only times I truly shine, like the Sun/Leo, is when I am surrounded by groups in nightclubs and dance the night away. I could lead the big company but I could also be the person behind the leader.

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My eyes are playing tricks on me @.@

I could not see my comments from before. I am sure until tonight they will ALL appear, and than I'll trully be a stalker.

A ghost has possesed the thread

edit: I'd like to hang out with u guys :)

the sweets part *sounds yuuuuumy

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posted June 04, 2014 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
According to Vedic Astrology, the 11th house is by far the most important of all houses. It is said to be the "seat" of the soul.

The 11th house is your hopes and dreams, your wishes, your ideals and what you envision as the ultimate world you want to live in.

In traditional astrology, the Sun rules the 4th(birth) and 11th house(who you hope to be). And Sun, as we know, is the "heart" of life; it is the directive of living.

So when you say you have Uranus and Pluto in 11th it could indicate someone whose visions of "Utopia" are so progressive, that people around you wont understand(this is Uranus manifestation)

It could also mean that they are intertwined with "healing", spiritual power or inner awareness(Pluto).

Pluto there also suggests that you have strong passions for your ideals and hopes. And if either of these planets aspects other planets in the houses mentioned, it is likely that their influence will filter in there too(as Uranus and Pluto are trans-personal planets)

Uranus and Pluto are slow moving and so, their impact on us(when aspecting the personal planets and more especially our the personal angles)is HUGE. Things will change and we do not "miss" their transits.

We may not always be aware of what is happening with us ,but we can sure remember what it was like when we went through it. This is trans-personal planets in action.

Where are Pluto and Uranus transiting now? My guess is Pluto is currently transiting the 2nd/3rd house? Uranus is transiting the 5th/6th house?

Do you see what I mean about not being able to "side-step" them at all?


I have Pluto 11th and Uranus late 10th, and Pluto is chart ruler for me. Like the op, I didn't really feel the influence in the 11th, but the part about passion for hopes and ideals resonates with me.

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posted June 04, 2014 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why does this keep double posting and not taking my edit?

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