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posted June 10, 2014 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please, can you see if there is anything wrong somewhere in my chart or is it just mercury retrograde? I feel like many of my friendships are not long-therm… And it's hard for me to maintain my friendships, why is it such a problem to me?

Getting lonely here

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posted June 10, 2014 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try not to get discouraged

You have Mars issues. Aries rules your eleventh house. I have it on the cusp of my seventh house and that is a public house, too.

Your Mars has afflictions. It is not easy to deal with Aries on the cusp of a house when Mars is afflicted. There could be problems and conflicts. At least that's how it is for me.

Your Mars is in the fourth house - mine is in the third.


Maybe you are somewhat shy and introverted? Do you like to go out and network with others?

You also have an intercepted 11th house Taurus. Perhaps you do not feel secure in the company of others?

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posted June 10, 2014 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Try not to get discouraged

You have Mars issues. Aries rules your eleventh house. I have it on the cusp of my seventh house and that is a public house, too.

Your Mars has afflictions. It is not easy to deal with Aries on the cusp of a house when Mars is afflicted. There could be problems and conflicts. At least that's how it is for me.

Your Mars is in the fourth house - mine is in the third.


Maybe you are somewhat shy and introverted? Do you like to go out and network with others?

You also have an intercepted 11th house Taurus. Perhaps you do not feel secure in the company of others?


Does that mean I have to struggle with mars all my life? It's hard to see how I'm ever going to have a long-therm friendship that's just going to last…. I have a hard time contacting people, and if they first let me down by canceling an appointment, I'm as good as never going to contact them again, unless they contact me… I just feel like they don't really want to see me if they cancel our appointments…

I don't know, I just really want to give up right now and just become a completely loner

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posted June 10, 2014 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always struggled with Mars and Aries is a powerful sign. It's not really that much of a social one. It's the most personal sign of all, even more than Cancer.

So when it's on your eleventh house - you have Aries energy which is very focused on self, trying to find it's way around the eleventh house which is an "other" oriented place. It's not a personal house at all. It's a face-in-the-crowd place where you can influence in an impersonal way. That's alien to Arien energy and more in line with Aquarian type.

I have similar. Aries is on the cusp of house seven - which is the house of partners and open enemies. Aries isn't partner energy, exactly. So it's like, what am I supposed to do with this seventh house? See?

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posted June 10, 2014 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Story of my life except that it never really bothered me.

Now I have random moments where I want to have buddies (not "friends" cause that means commitment) but I don't know how to make it happen cause of personal issues and other things.


You have tUranus in your 11H now, almost. And your natal Mars (ruler of 11H) is in opposition with the Moon (emotions, females) and in square with Uranus (sudden changes, blah blah).


I looove that meme of forever alone!!!
Notice the chocolates in his hand!

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posted June 10, 2014 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, your sun-moon combo suggests an intellectual person with a very compassionate disposition.

I think your Mars in Virgo may be the issue(and it co-incidentally rules the 11th house) and conjuncts your Sun.

The opposition to the moon suggests that you are quite sensitive and can recoil quickly to oncoming signs of rebuff, criticism or disfavor. Defensiveness is also a trait;and this makes people getting close to you quite an effort.

Are you a very critical person who chooses associates very carefully?Do you consider the mind of the person you befriend to be of uttermost importance?Is it hard for you to relax and just have a good time with others?
Is it easier for you to make friend in a work situation? Say a joint project, task or team effort?

I knew a colleague who had Mars in Virgo and he wasn't easy to get to know. He also had Moon in Aries conjunct your Moon but his Sun was in Libra.

I think he very much desired closeness with others but was so discriminating and often assumed that we would not warm up to him(so he in turn did not warm up to us)

Mars in Virgo can be very chilly and it may be very challenging for them to just have small talk.Many want to be taken seriously and don't know when to switch that button "off" and just be.

You also have Moon/Sun/Mars squaring Uranus. The Square to the Sun suggests a life that is in upheavals and changes constantly whilst the Moon square is very much like the new kid in school.

This position is like a kid who just moved into the neighborhood and has to learn to make fiends all over again before being packed away into another place again: The parents are always moving to a new place and the kid has to learn to adjust.

The Mars square to Uranus suggests an innate defensiveness in your projection(it is further echoed by the Moon/Mars opposition):
You may assert your own independence and have people assume that you do like being alone and that you really don't need anyone.

My suggestion; find someone that you have a good relationship with and develop this friendship further.Once people see that you are close to "so and so", they'll ask your friend how he could be friends with you? In this way, he can be your spokesperson and say all the flattering things about you.

He or She can be your strongest advocate and will advertise your virtues to others. So much so, that other people will want to get to know you.

Moon/Mars/Sun-Uranus square is very disruptive and it can feel like you build something only to have it tumble down and have to start all over again.

Perhaps you've gone on your own so much in your life that its starting to feel lonely? It's not your fault, you had to learn to cope.But it is possible to bring the independent nature into partnership.

You don't have to change who you are, just make sure that you acknowledge others too.

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posted June 10, 2014 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I've always struggled with Mars and Aries is a powerful sign. It's not really that much of a social one. It's the most personal sign of all, even more than Cancer.

So when it's on your eleventh house - you have Aries energy which is very focused on self, trying to find it's way around the eleventh house which is an "other" oriented place. It's not a personal house at all. It's a face-in-the-crowd place where you can influence in an impersonal way. That's alien to Arien energy and more in line with Aquarian type.

I have similar. Aries is on the cusp of house seven - which is the house of partners and open enemies. Aries isn't partner energy, exactly. So it's like, what am I supposed to do with this seventh house? See?


Isee. I feel like my whole life sux now. I can't have peace anywhere except when I'm alone. But I can't have peace when I'm too much alone either, cause then I get lonely.
I have mars in 4th house so - no family. Also lilith in 5th house - no children.
And now also this 11th house in Aries - no friends.

At least I have a boyfriend but…. the moment he turns into my family he will also be gone probably…

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posted June 10, 2014 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Isee. I feel like my whole life sux now. I can't have peace anywhere except when I'm alone. But I can't have peace when I'm too much alone either, cause then I get lonely.
I have mars in 4th house so - no family. Also lilith in 5th house - no children.
And now also this 11th house in Aries - no friends.

At least I have a boyfriend but…. the moment he turns into my family he will also be gone probably…



Aries isn't necessarily friendless it just has to struggle a bit to figure out how to direct itself outwardly toward others. So if you take the energy and let it radiate toward other people, they will respond to your enthusiasm and charisma. Aries has these qualities to give and they attract but the sign is the sign of the self. It is what it is.


Aries is the one sign that finds itself most often admired by others.

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posted June 10, 2014 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

This position is like a kid who just moved into the neighborhood and has to learn to make fiends all over again before being packed away into another place again: The parents are always moving to a new place and the kid has to learn to adjust.

The Mars square to Uranus suggests an innate defensiveness in your projection(it is further echoed by the Moon/Mars opposition):
You may assert your own independence and have people assume that you do like being alone and that you really don't need anyone.

My suggestion; find someone that you have a good relationship with and develop this friendship further.Once people see that you are close to "so and so", they'll ask your friend how he could be friends with you? In this way, he can be your spokesperson and say all the flattering things about you.

He or She can be your strongest advocate and will advertise your virtues to others. So much so, that other people will want to get to know you.

Moon/Mars/Sun-Uranus square is very disruptive and it can feel like you build something only to have it tumble down and have to start all over again.

Perhaps you've gone on your own so much in your life that its starting to feel lonely? It's not your fault, you had to learn to cope.But it is possible to bring the independent nature into partnership.

You don't have to change who you are, just make sure that you acknowledge others too.


Yeah that is so true… I actually changed class both in the grade school, high school and changed school 2 times in high school… I've actually changed school so many times, I didn't even notice that…and each time I had to find new friends. It's always been really easy for me to get 1 or 2 new friends each place, but it's always hard to maintain the contact… it's a lot easier if you share a hobby, job or something like that. It's almost like I have an "excuse" of talking to people if we are "forced" to be together in a work situation… I usually do fine there. But I sux so bad at small talk. I have no idea what to talk about so I talk about boring stuff, and then people move on to something more interesting lol…

I have some nice friends now though, and they are like you suggested my "spokes-persons". I have a big friend-group through them who have some kind of respect towards me, just because I know "so and so". It feels nice this way, but then again…my life change and I have a hard time maintaining the friend who is also my "link" to others…it's a dangerous trap that way.

It is easy for me to get new friends though. Aries is great that way - getting into new social situations and "winning" a few people over. But in the long run, I see my own pattern and I'm so freakin tired of it.
It so much more valuable to have the same nice friends that knows you, and ain't going nowhere….

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posted June 10, 2014 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by next to neptune:
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Aries isn't necessarily friendless it just has to struggle a bit to figure out how to direct itself outwardly toward others. So if you take the energy and let it radiate toward other people, they will respond to your enthusiasm and charisma. Aries has these qualities to give and they attract but the sign is the sign of the self. It is what it is.


Aries is the one sign that finds itself most often admired by others.


I think I come of as too strong for most people… Like I'm "strong and independent and doesn't give a f***". But I do, I'm extremely emotional… most of my friends are fire and air, probably because they think I'm a cool person lol. But I'm not, I just want to have close, safe friends who isn't going to leave me all of a sudden. It's hard to "know" that people aren't going to stick around… that everyone you meet has their time-limit. All these uranus squares feel like a time-trap that counts down and then one day everything is just changed and I move on to the next… I just get so tired of this and always being on the go

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posted June 10, 2014 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Story of my life except that it never really bothered me.

Now I have random moments where I want to have buddies (not "friends" cause that means commitment) but I don't know how to make it happen cause of personal issues and other things.


You have tUranus in your 11H now, almost. And your natal Mars (ruler of 11H) is in opposition with the Moon (emotions, females) and in square with Uranus (sudden changes, blah blah).


I looove that meme of forever alone!!!
Notice the chocolates in his hand!


I don't even know why it bothers me to be alone… because other people are just nice?:P It's boring to be alone? Yeah it gets boring and I just miss company…I feel social, but I just suck at being it, blablabla!!! Why do I talk so much in here always lol

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posted June 10, 2014 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah it gets boring at some point.

I made a thread about it in SPITR just today.

It's annoying. The "alone vs. social" thing.

I feel you.

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posted June 10, 2014 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I posted this in a thread awhile back ago,so i thought this thread is perfect to post it again.


I have a moon,mars,and chiron (and juno) in the 11th house. I also have all of those signs in Leo,which is pretty unique and strange to me. So I know how you feel. I've never had a best friend or a lot of friends in general. I always feel like sometimes i'm alone when it comes to people,but in a weird way i kinda like it! I always would tell myself that "I would rather have true and honest friends that love me than people who just want something from me for superficial or stupid reasons."
I think that's my moon square pluto talking because I can sometimes sense and tell bs with people.
What I've notice with people is that they either love me or hate me. But I think with my Libra rising I can always pull people to me side when it comes to things that I want.


I also always feel in a way that people in group setting try to one up me or are too overly competitive.

I think overall with the 11th house placement it kinda gives us this superiority complex rather we know it or not. I also think it kinda gives us this leader and team player type quality too.


I'll show all my aspect between my moon,mars,juno and chiron!

Moon Conjunction Mars
Moon Conjunction Chiron
Mars Conjunction Chiron


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posted June 10, 2014 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Close friendships = H7.

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posted June 10, 2014 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your house 7 ruler is Capricorn with Saturn in domicile and conjunct Neptune and Uranus in house 6. You could feel burdened by others from time to time. It's no wonder you feel like others are unreliable and let you down. Capricorn houses are where patience and personal reflection are needed.

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posted June 10, 2014 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your North Node is in Aquarius, ruled by Uranus in the sixth in Capricorn...

Imo the only way Aquarius-types maintain several friendships over a long period is by being able to 'put up with' and 'be dismissive off' any number of classic human foibles, flaws, defects and daily annoyances.
They also don't get very emotionally involved with others (i.e. with the personal problems of others). They are sympathetic/nice - but also detached.

The more perfectionist you are - and the more you expect people to meet your version of the way they *should* be... the less likely you are to maintain friendships.
As time goes on, absolutely everyone shows their true colours and their clay feet.
The only way to maintain friendships - is to keep a reasonable distance from the person - not get *extremely* close.. and not feel extremely bothered by their brand of 'issues'.

Something else Aquarius does well is - they can be optimistic (like Sagittarius) and focus on the bright side, the positive things about people...

I'm saying this to you - because having an Aquarius NN, these are personality traits that would be challenging for you - and that you need to learn more about in this life.
I'm in a similar boat, having NN in the 11th house.

With Leo SN and Aquarius NN, there would also be a shift from being the centre of attention (Leo) - to being able to work well in a group, towards a common goal (Aquarius).

Because the ruler of your NN - is in the 6th house of work (and in an earth sign).. I would say these issues would come up even more so with co-workers. You were saying on your other thread that you have problems dealing with them...
Often people are placed in challenging situations in life - when they have to learn to adapt by applying their North Node traits. I feel like this is what is happening with you.

My advice would be to adapt by learning to be much more emotionally detached from your co-workers... and nice in a less "involved" way...
You have a lot of water in your chart - and it's great that you can be extremely empathetic and kind with your friends and family. But in some settings, like work.. (and also when it comes to just networking or maintaining acquaintances) - it's really better to be more detached.

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posted June 10, 2014 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Yeah it gets boring at some point.

I made a thread about it in SPITR just today.

It's annoying. The "alone vs. social" thing.

I feel you.


I read it… you have a virgo moon? Well that's the less flattering thing about virgo, it's our nit-picky side… I wish I was more like aquas who just seems to love everybody and make friends with everyone they meet…
But I feel like if I try to open up and just be nice, I unfortunately attract people who wants to use me for something and not "really" want to be friends…

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posted June 10, 2014 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well you are shy, quiet, introverted but you need to be loved deeply. You have an empty 7th and 11th and as someone pointed out the ruler of your 11th has a lot of challenges....so friends don't easily flow towards you but...

Your 5th house and Venus kick ass and I feel this is the key to your solution . The 5th and Venus are your saving grace....you should have good luck attracting lovers and you can choose to become friends with your lovers...do the friends and lovers thing and then turn your lovers into friends or into relationships....

You can also find friendships among artists...are you artistic? Go to meetup.com and join an art group, I think you will more likely make friends when in this is artsy mode as it brings the best in you...you have grand cross square so you could go far as an artist if you put the work in and throw yourself in your art ....


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posted June 10, 2014 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Odette made some good points.

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
you have a virgo moon? Well that's the less flattering thing about virgo, it's our nit-picky side… I wish I was more like aquas who just seems to love everybody and make friends with everyone they meet…

I do have a Virgo Moon. I'm not that picky. I just genuinely find it hard to be interested in 99% of what people say or do.

Aquas don't love everybody, lol. They're just detached enough not to get too emotionally involved, and thus avoid all the drama/unpleasant side of relating (most of the time). They can be social but not very personal/close in their relationships. From what I've noticed.

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But I feel like if I try to open up and just be nice, I unfortunately attract people who wants to use me for something and not "really" want to be friends…

I don't have that type of problem. Most of the time, I am the one who acts distant/unavailable because people bore me or drain me. So when I get bored and tired of my being alone, I want to have some company, but I still feel like I'm gonna be bored around others and feel uneasy. It's effin' frustrating.

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posted June 10, 2014 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Odette made some good points.

I don't have that type of problem. Most of the time, I am the one who acts distant/unavailable because people bore me or drain me. So when I get bored and tired of my being alone, I want to have some company, but I still feel like I'm gonna be bored around others and feel uneasy. It's effin' frustrating.


Haha it must be my uranus contacts then. I constantly attract weird people

Thanks all for so many good answers by the way! I'm really tired so gonna go to bed, but I'm gonna answer tomorrow

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posted June 11, 2014 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrohippiegirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read on a vedic astrology website that if the houses next to the house where your natal moon sits then that means you will be a lonely person...not to be a debbie downer just something i came across today when searching for signs of poverty in an astrology chart.

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posted June 11, 2014 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yellowelevator     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I'm also a Cancer ASC with Aries on the 11th and with no planets there, and I have this same problem with not having many friends and never having any long-term ones. *hugs* I know how you feel then, in a way.

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posted June 11, 2014 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Isee. I feel like my whole life sux now. I can't have peace anywhere except when I'm alone. But I can't have peace when I'm too much alone either, cause then I get lonely.
I have mars in 4th house so - no family. Also lilith in 5th house - no children.
And now also this 11th house in Aries - no friends.

At least I have a boyfriend but…. the moment he turns into my family he will also be gone probably…


I can truly feel your sadness. Po' chile. (((big hug)))

It all starts with your WORDS. Whatever you say...that is what you'll have. You've got to be more uplifting towards YOURSELF. Speak good over your social life, your love life, family life, etc. And then take little steps to change for the better.

I recently made drastic changes in who I associate with and it has enriched my life so much very much. Like you, I once lived isolated - it was very hard to deal with, lonely of course. But that wasn't really me, it was just my circumstances at that time. You can get the life you dream of if you just remain positive and put a little more work in!

*sending courageous Aries vibes over your way*

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posted June 11, 2014 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Does that mean I have to struggle with mars all my life? It's hard to see how I'm ever going to have a long-therm friendship that's just going to last…. I have a hard time contacting people, and if they first let me down by canceling an appointment, I'm as good as never going to contact them again, unless they contact me… I just feel like they don't really want to see me if they cancel our appointments…

I don't know, I just really want to give up right now and just become a completely loner



Don't give up, we actually have fairly similar charts, you were born a few days before me. So I have these same, "Mars afflictions" that others have mentioned. I can honestly say in my experience I don't see them as afflictions, things are positive or negative depending on how you use them. See it as a drive as a goal, as a challenge to do better.

Mars is in Libra, a stereotypically friendly, and easy going sign.

Venus is in Scorpio, a stereotypically quiet more intense personal sign.

If anything I imagine that it's your Venus that leads to the way you are interacting here. When you mentioned about if friends skip out on you or how you don't always initiate. I must admit I am similar in that regard to you. I will freely admit that for the most part I absolutely suck at initiating conversation or plans with friends. It is something I work at, I used to feel like maybe they didn't want me around. Then I thought; "hmmm, what if that is how they feel because I never call them?" So I take the initiative occasionally and it is actually okay.

The key thing to remember is that you have a lot of Cardinal in your chart, with a great big couple of T Squares. Use that energy to lead from the front and do what you want, ask people, make plans, be the initiator. Perhaps the Scorpio might whisper; "But what if nobody responds... or comes...?" You'll never know if you don't try, and what is the worst that happens? Maybe you'll need to go find some more friends.

The friendliest person I've met, started talking to me, the moment I met him, no apparent awkwardness, just relaxed, and talked to me like a person and as if he had known me for ages. He didn't seem to mind if I chose to respond or not. People are receptive and responsive to a, "good" vibe. So give out a good vibe and try not to worry about it.

Friendships are like everything else, they take work, time, dedication, and effort. Don't neglect your friendships, and your friends should not neglect you.

Edit - Oops your Mars is in Virgo, so you're definitely screwed =/

Just kidding, everything still applies.

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posted June 11, 2014 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
I posted this in a thread awhile back ago,so i thought this thread is perfect to post it again.


I have a moon,mars,and chiron (and juno) in the 11th house. I also have all of those signs in Leo,which is pretty unique and strange to me. So I know how you feel. I've never had a best friend or a lot of friends in general. I always feel like sometimes i'm alone when it comes to people,but in a weird way i kinda like it! I always would tell myself that "I would rather have true and honest friends that love me than people who just want something from me for superficial or stupid reasons."
I think that's my moon square pluto talking because I can sometimes sense and tell bs with people.
What I've notice with people is that they either love me or hate me. But I think with my Libra rising I can always pull people to me side when it comes to things that I want.


I also always feel in a way that people in group setting try to one up me or are too overly competitive.

I think overall with the 11th house placement it kinda gives us this superiority complex rather we know it or not. I also think it kinda gives us this leader and team player type quality too.


I'll show all my aspect between my moon,mars,juno and chiron!

Moon Conjunction Mars
Moon Conjunction Chiron
Mars Conjunction Chiron


You described it really well! I also enjoy being alone, and I need to be alone quiet often to absorb all the info and experiences I got…if I'm too much together with people it will cause problems no matter what, cause it gets harder and harder for me to cope with others and just play along. I need some smaller breaks where I can "recover". But as I got older (I'm turning 25 this year) I have learned to deal with it, and not getting frustrated with people but just kind of like "disappearing" smoothly out of the way, without making an issue out of it…. you seem a lot younger than me? Time will also show you how to cope… the most important thing is just to not stay at home and isolate yourself, just get out and learn how to deal with people and friends

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