Author
|
Topic: How exactly do aspects to ASC affect appearance?
|
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 855 From: Registered: Jun 2012
|
posted June 15, 2014 02:45 AM
I know that aspects to your ascendant can affect the appearance but how exactly do you determine this? For example, do the harmonious aspects like the trines and sextiles give more 'beauty'? And do the harder aspects like the conjunctions, squares and oppositions take away beauty?And do the planets determine the 'type' of beauty? I just know that Venus can soften the appearance or Jupiter can cause weight gain. But can someone give me a rundown of how each planet can alter the appearance? For example, I have Sag Rising as well as Jupiter trine ASC. So Jupiter is the main factor in my appearance?
IP: Logged |
bansheequeen unregistered
|
posted June 15, 2014 03:32 AM
IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 855 From: Registered: Jun 2012
|
posted June 15, 2014 03:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by bansheequeen: What house in your Jupiter in? Ruler of house? Sigh of Jupiter? Etc etc.I'm not sure if appearance is astrology is so cut and dried. But I do think in general harmonious aspects make you look better. Conjunctions can only help right? Amplify the energy. I would think squares would take away the good. Either in looks or just the vibe you give out. Though I think you wanna discuss physical only right?
My Jupiter is in Leo, in the 8th house. No, I would also like to discuss vibes since that kind of goes hand in hand with looks. Hmm so conjunctions and oppositions would amplify but not squares? IP: Logged |
Comatoes Knowflake Posts: 441 From: Registered: Jan 2014
|
posted June 15, 2014 05:55 AM
Hard aspects don't take anything away, they make the energy harder to handle or to express. Having hard aspects don't mean your unattractive, it's all about ratio and balance. I see many beautiful people with hard aspects, it makes you wonder. IMO, attractiveness is genetic, planetary based, and lastly sign based. If your whole family has a history of being unattractive, how do you think you will come out, it may be a shot in the barrel and you come out gorgeous, but your DNA tells all. Your DNA gives the basics and the planets and signs add/enhance what is there. Sometimes the enhancement isn't in the eye of the beholder or it is... For example, if you have the DNA for beautiful legs, and also born with Sag rising, you will have beautiful legs, no contest. If you have DNA for beautiful skin, and born with a Taurus or Pisces/Cancer Asc with no Mars on the Asc. and/or Venus in 1st (no Mars ruled signs) you will have lovely skin. Some people have a family history of beautiful eyes, if your DNA instructs you to have beautiful eyes you will, but having Neptune or Moon well placed can enhance them even more. Your DNA has to help too, if it has nothing to work with the planets don't either.
IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag Knowflake Posts: 1386 From: Your imagination Registered: Aug 2013
|
posted June 15, 2014 08:00 AM
I have:Jupiter Neptune Uranus Mars Mercury Sun on my asc, im a very complex person. Does this mean I look deformed? IP: Logged |
Astra Knowflake Posts: 908 From: Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted June 15, 2014 09:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by NeptunianSag: I have:Jupiter Neptune Uranus Mars Mercury Sun on my asc, im a very complex person. Does this mean I look deformed?
LOL! I doubt it. Based on those aspects alone, you probably look youthful, confident and maybe a bit aloof. IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag Knowflake Posts: 1386 From: Your imagination Registered: Aug 2013
|
posted June 15, 2014 09:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astra: LOL! I doubt it. Based on those aspects alone, you probably look youthful, confident and maybe a bit aloof.
Yeah, I look young, like to act and keep young, ill be like this untill the end of my days. I cant see myself being in an old persons home watching TV being a cabbage, I need to do things all the time. Aloof, definately, my aqua venus and moon in 11th adds to this. IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 855 From: Registered: Jun 2012
|
posted June 15, 2014 01:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Comatoes: Hard aspects don't take anything away, they make the energy harder to handle or to express. Having hard aspects don't mean your unattractive, it's all about ratio and balance. I see many beautiful people with hard aspects, it makes you wonder. IMO, attractiveness is genetic, planetary based, and lastly sign based. If your whole family has a history of being unattractive, how do you think you will come out, it may be a shot in the barrel and you come out gorgeous, but your DNA tells all. Your DNA gives the basics and the planets and signs add/enhance what is there. Sometimes the enhancement isn't in the eye of the beholder or it is... For example, if you have the DNA for beautiful legs, and also born with Sag rising, you will have beautiful legs, no contest. If you have DNA for beautiful skin, and born with a Taurus or Pisces/Cancer Asc with no Mars on the Asc. and/or Venus in 1st (no Mars ruled signs) you will have lovely skin. Some people have a family history of beautiful eyes, if your DNA instructs you to have beautiful eyes you will, but having Neptune or Moon well placed can enhance them even more. Your DNA has to help too, if it has nothing to work with the planets don't either.
I see. So for example, Sun Square ASC would make it difficult for your personality to be expressed? And how do you know what part of the body each planet can affect? For example, you said that Jupiter can give you good legs and Venus can give good skin. IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 855 From: Registered: Jun 2012
|
posted June 15, 2014 01:10 PM
Also does anyone know if aspects to MC can have some affect on the appearance? Can it determine how you appear to others?IP: Logged |
PeterPan Knowflake Posts: 448 From: Registered: Jun 2013
|
posted June 15, 2014 01:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Comatoes: Hard aspects don't take anything away, they make the energy harder to handle or to express. Having hard aspects don't mean your unattractive, it's all about ratio and balance. I see many beautiful people with hard aspects, it makes you wonder. IMO, attractiveness is genetic, planetary based, and lastly sign based. If your whole family has a history of being unattractive, how do you think you will come out, it may be a shot in the barrel and you come out gorgeous, but your DNA tells all. Your DNA gives the basics and the planets and signs add/enhance what is there. Sometimes the enhancement isn't in the eye of the beholder or it is... For example, if you have the DNA for beautiful legs, and also born with Sag rising, you will have beautiful legs, no contest. If you have DNA for beautiful skin, and born with a Taurus or Pisces/Cancer Asc with no Mars on the Asc. and/or Venus in 1st (no Mars ruled signs) you will have lovely skin. Some people have a family history of beautiful eyes, if your DNA instructs you to have beautiful eyes you will, but having Neptune or Moon well placed can enhance them even more. Your DNA has to help too, if it has nothing to work with the planets don't either.
this is just a little theory of mine, but i think astrology makes certain genes express them selves more so than others..
Anyways from what ive seen the signs have the most effect on appearance, and planets conjunct sun, moon also in my experience tend to have almost as much to say about appearance that planets conjunct ascendant does. oppositions comes seccond but they mostly affect your vibe and squares and trines is mostly about your vibe and personality. IP: Logged |
Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 904 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
|
posted June 16, 2014 10:32 AM
I have jupiter in libra (8th house) trine my ascendant in aquarius i dont think it effects my looks but deff feel it in my personalityIP: Logged |
infinite.nebula Knowflake Posts: 266 From: Registered: Nov 2013
|
posted June 16, 2014 01:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquagembaby: [b]Also does anyone know if aspects to MC can have some affect on the appearance? Can it determine how you appear to others?[/B]
Maybe it could make you appear more driven, goal orriented or as though you plan long term? IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 855 From: Registered: Jun 2012
|
posted June 16, 2014 01:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Supreme cT: I have jupiter in libra (8th house) trine my ascendant in aquarius i dont think it effects my looks but deff feel it in my personality
How do you feel it affects your personality? quote: Originally posted by infinite.nebula: Maybe it could make you appear more driven, goal orriented or as though you plan long term?
I see...professional maybe? IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 5286 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
|
posted June 16, 2014 04:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquagembaby: I know that aspects to your ascendant can affect the appearance but how exactly do you determine this? For example, do the harmonious aspects like the trines and sextiles give more 'beauty'? And do the harder aspects like the conjunctions, squares and oppositions take away beauty?And do the planets determine the 'type' of beauty? I just know that Venus can soften the appearance or Jupiter can cause weight gain. But can someone give me a rundown of how each planet can alter the appearance? For example, I have Sag Rising as well as Jupiter trine ASC. So Jupiter is the main factor in my appearance?
Everybody seems curious of this lately.lol What does you chart look like? Let me have a look at your chart and, if you are not too self-conscious, you can post a pic of yourself so that I can show you what I meant with my interpretation(whether what I said related to your pic). IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 855 From: Registered: Jun 2012
|
posted June 16, 2014 05:29 PM
gIP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 5286 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
|
posted June 16, 2014 05:48 PM
First we look at the Asc and the MCThe Asc is in Sagittarius. The energy is fire and expressive. You also have Neptune in Cap in house 1. This planet dominates your appearance. So instead of "fire", we have Neptune in earthy Cap dominating your looks. Neptune dilutes the "Cap" features that are often "pointed", "bony", "structured" and "sqaure" but, instead ,gives soft-doll like features. The individual appears non-threatening, receptive, "dreamy" etc. But wait, let us consider whether the MC is just as powerful(if not more so) than the Asc. The MC is in Virgo with no planets therein. Therefore the Asc enjoys dominion. The planet Neptune enjoys dominion when it comes to your looks. So, I would look into Neptune conjunct Mercury- which creates a "absent-minded" dreamy eyes look. Neptune dominates. So its effect filters through to the energy of the physical and other physical appearances I wanted to do this interpretation before you posted your picture so that it doesn't look like I am making the interpretation to "fit" into your pic. But no worry. It is done.
IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 5286 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
|
posted June 16, 2014 05:52 PM
I wanted to add that, Jupiter may be the chart ruler, but it only enjoys dominion way after Neptune. Neptune is to be look at first and foremost. The conjunction of Neptune to Mercury creates a mix of "youth" and dreaminess, but Neptune filters on Neptune and not the other way around. This is my 2 cents worth. IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 855 From: Registered: Jun 2012
|
posted June 16, 2014 06:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: First we look at the Asc and the MCThe Asc is in Sagittarius. The energy is fire and expressive. You also have Neptune in Cap in house 1. This planet dominates your appearance. So instead of "fire", we have Neptune in earthy Cap dominating your looks. Neptune dilutes the "Cap" features that are often "pointed", "bony", "structured" and "sqaure" but, instead ,gives soft-doll like features. The individual appears non-threatening, receptive, "dreamy" etc. But wait, let us consider whether the MC is just as powerful(if not more so) than the Asc. The MC is in Virgo with no planets therein. Therefore the Asc enjoys dominion. The planet Neptune enjoys dominion when it comes to your looks. So, I would look into Neptune conjunct Mercury- which creates a "absent-minded" dreamy eyes look. Neptune dominates. So its effect filters through to the energy of the physical and other physical appearances I wanted to do this interpretation before you posted your picture so that it doesn't look like I am making the interpretation to "fit" into your pic. But no worry. It is done.
Thank you! I did not know that Neptune had such an influence on me. I don't really feel like I have the typical neptune look but sometimes other people see things that you don't see yourself. Why is Neptune such a domineering influence? Is is b/c of the degree? I also have Mercury and Uranus in my first. But I thought planets in the 1st house affect more the personality and not the looks? IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 855 From: Registered: Jun 2012
|
posted June 16, 2014 06:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: I wanted to add that, Jupiter may be the chart ruler, but it only enjoys dominion way after Neptune. Neptune is to be look at first and foremost. The conjunction of Neptune to Mercury creates a mix of "youth" and dreaminess, but Neptune filters on Neptune and not the other way around. This is my 2 cents worth.
So since Neptune comes first in the conjunction, it's going to filter on Mercury? How different would it be if it was the other way around? IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 unregistered
|
posted June 16, 2014 06:12 PM
I love your eyes! They're BIG like mine, very dreamy. You look very airy yet fiery and watery. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 5286 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
|
posted June 16, 2014 06:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquagembaby: Thank you! I did not know that Neptune had such an influence on me. I don't really feel like I have the typical neptune look but sometimes other people see things that you don't see yourself.Why is Neptune such a domineering influence? Is is b/c of the degree? I also have Mercury and Uranus in my first. But I thought planets in the 1st house affect more the personality and not the looks?
Its true, people see differently and sometimes we see what we want to see. I didn't look at your pic attentively until afterwards. Planets in the 1st house do affect ones personality and appearance. Your Uranus is also in the 1st house, but Neptune aspect Uranus by conjunction and thus Neptune enjoys dominion over Uranus. This is because Neptune is even slower than Uranus and any aspects made to personal points(Asc /Mc) are very powerful-by the slower moving planet IMO. The other reader mentioned your eyes being wide, big and "dreamy". This is Mercury conjunct Neptune I spoke of. Neptune has a tendency of making people look very innocent, like they are "receptive" to all the world has to offer; like little boys and girls. Very fragile and soft in disposition etc(even when Mars, Saturn are in the 1st) Look at Taylor Swift eyes. She enjoys the same Neptune/Mercury conjunct and, although I haven't fully examined her chart placements, that immediately struck me as a big coincidence:She comes across as "Little girl lost" in her pics. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 5286 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
|
posted June 16, 2014 06:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquagembaby: So since Neptune comes first in the conjunction, it's going to filter on Mercury? How different would it be if it was the other way around?
I wouldn't notice that because I focus on the slower moving planet. Because it is so "slower moving" , its effects are more "thorough" and eventually, the faster moving planet learns to integrate the traits of the slower moving planets' energy sign. Notice,natally, a Moon in Leo square Pluto in Scorpio. It is the Moon in Leo that becomes more darker,more instinctual, more probing etc. Indeed, it seems, to the individual person, the Leo traits are not that easy to be seen without them accompanied by a strongly Pluto influence of Scorpio. But we don't live long enough to pay attention to the influence that the Moon has on Pluto: Could the Pluto planet be more flamboyant, expressive and playful as a result of the Moon in Leo's influence? We cannot say. We know ,however, that the Moon is far more personal in our charts than Pluto. But if Pluto influences the Moon ,then Pluto energies enjoy dominion over the sign energy of the Moon-because of its longer orbit. The two may function in conjunction, square or opposition but Pluto's more "fixed" and stringent mark will be felt getting heavier and heavier over time-no matter what. IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 855 From: Registered: Jun 2012
|
posted June 16, 2014 06:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Its true, people see differently and sometimes we see what we want to see.I didn't look at your pic attentively until afterwards. Planets in the 1st house do affect ones personality and appearance. Your Uranus is also in the 1st house, but Neptune aspect Uranus by conjunction and thus Neptune enjoys dominion over Uranus. This is because Uranus is a slow moving planet and any aspects made to personal points(Asc /Mc) are very powerful IMO.
The other reader mentioned your eyes being wide, big and "dreamy". This is Mercury conjunct Neptune I spoke of. Neptune has a tendency of making people look very innocent, like they are "receptive" to all the world has to offer; like little boys and girls. Very fragile and soft in disposition etc(even when Mars, Saturn are in the 1st) Look at Taylor Swift eyes. She enjoys the same Neptune/Mercury conjunct and, although I haven't fully examined her chart placements, that immediately struck me as a big coincidence:She comes across as "Little girl lost" in her pics.
I see. So if I'm getting this correctly, it matters more which planets are "dominating" in the aspect, and not so much the type of aspect? Mercury Conjunct Neptune Uranus Conjunct Neptune In these two aspects, how did you know that Neptune is the one in dominion?
IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 855 From: Registered: Jun 2012
|
posted June 16, 2014 06:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: I love your eyes! They're BIG like mine, very dreamy. You look very airy yet fiery and watery.
Thank you! I did not know that I looked watery at all so I learned something new today. IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 855 From: Registered: Jun 2012
|
posted June 16, 2014 07:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: I wouldn't notice that because I focus on the slower moving planet. Because it is so "slower moving" , its effects are more "thorough" and eventually, the faster moving planet learns to integrate the traits of the slower moving planets' energy sign.Notice,natally, a Moon in Leo square Pluto in Scorpio. It is the Moon in Leo that becomes more darker,more instinctual, more probing etc. Indeed, it seems, to the individual person, the Leo traits are not that easy to be seen without them accompanied by a strongly Pluto influence of Scorpio. But we don't live long enough to pay attention to the influence that the Moon has on Pluto: Could the Pluto planet be more flamboyant, expressive and playful as a result of the Moon in Leo's influence? We cannot say. We know ,however, that the Moon is far more personal in our charts than Pluto. But if Pluto influences the Moon ,then Pluto energies enjoy dominion over the sign energy of the Moon-because of its longer orbit. The two may function in conjunction, square or opposition but Pluto's more "fixed" and stringent mark will be felt getting heavier and heavier over time-no matter what.
Oh I see for some reason I assumed that the first planet is the one affecting the second. For example, Moon in Leo square Pluto in Scorpio, I would have thought that the Moon is the one trying to alter Pluto's energy. It's a little difficult for me to grasp but hopefully I will get used to it. Aspects have always been hard for me to understand!
IP: Logged | |