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Topic: planets strength of influence
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Ellynlvx
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From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God
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posted June 16, 2014 08:28 PM
  
Actually, Uranus too, HA!IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted June 16, 2014 08:35 PM
I'm Uranus ruled Ellyn lol?
I wanna know my rulers! IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted June 17, 2014 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
You want yours posted, Doux?
Can I have mine posted, too, please, Ellynlvx?  IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted June 17, 2014 05:42 PM
Sorry, guys, it's being a real pain right now.As soon as it behaves, I will return you to our regularly scheduled Time and Place. (Uh, could someone check Mercury's Schedule, please?) IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted June 17, 2014 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Sorry, guys, it's being a real pain right now.As soon as it behaves, I will return you to our regularly scheduled Time and Place. (Uh, could someone check Mercury's Schedule, please?)
Oh, okay.
Alright, thank you, Ellynlvx Mercury is Rx in Gemini (29) right now, lol. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted June 17, 2014 11:09 PM
You Don't Say.IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted June 17, 2014 11:37 PM
Haha, got it to work.Are you sure it's not Jovian Mirthellect? Okay, Barb first. Pluto is Fourteen
Mars is Twelve
Uranus is Ten
Saturn is Ten
Part of Fortune is Nine
Venus is Eight
Neptune is One
Moon is minus Five
Mercury is minus Six
Jupiter is minus Twelve
Sun is minus Fourteen Mercurian Jupiter is Twenty One
Mars is Nineteen
Pluto is Fifteen
Venus is Fifteen
Mercury is Thirteen
Part of Fortune is Thirteen
Moon is Zero
Sun is minus Two
Uranus is minus Two
Neptune is minus Two
Saturn is minus Seven IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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From: Pluto with DeepFreeze
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted June 17, 2014 11:42 PM
Uh oh is it a good or bad thing that I have negatives? Am I supposed to be missing numbers? Or are the negatives the ones that are missing?
I'm confused. 😣
Thank you for informing me with this much needed information Ellyn.  IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted June 17, 2014 11:48 PM
Huh? How come Venus isn't 1st? And Sun is negative 2? Lol.My Sun is highly aspectd (probably my most apsected planet in my chart) and my chart ruler, and Venus is domicile in not only sign, but also house. Wait, so how are those strengths calculated? Because on Astro.com, it gives me Venus, Sun and Mercury as the strongest planets. I can understand that Jupiter is strong, since it's domicile and in an angular hosue, but I don't think it would beat Venus or Mercury, lol. But thanks for calculating it for me, Ellynlvx
Oh, and can Chiron be calculated, because I wonder my my Chiron is in these strengths? IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted June 17, 2014 11:50 PM
I was thinking the same thing LOL. I think it's the houses and apects that's changing it. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted June 17, 2014 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I was thinking the same thing LOL. I think it's the houses and apects that's changing it.
Yeah, maybe the houses, but definitely not the aspects because my Jupiter is unaspected, so is Mars. LOL. (besides a minor aspect with the Sun, with one having a quintile, and the other a semi-square). IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted June 17, 2014 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yea, maybe the houses, but definitely not the aspects because my Jupiter is unaspected, so is Mars. LOL. (besides a minor aspect with the Sun, with one having a quintile, and the other a semi-square).
Then I have not the slightest idea hahahaha. I'm seriously scratching my head like...
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Mercurian Intellect
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posted June 17, 2014 11:59 PM
Same!  Mars being very strong like that? Huh!? It's in Scorpio, but that's only co-domicile, and it's not in an angular house. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted June 18, 2014 12:03 AM
I'm very serious LOL. Mars seems pretty accurate for me. In ways I feel very Cancer especially when it comes to DeepFreeze. Like I'd kill for him it's that deep lol. Other ways I'm so libra. Do you think it fits for you? You're definitely Jupiter strong. You're so humanitarian, or at least that's the vibe I get. Very witty and have a little bit of Sag feel to you. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted June 18, 2014 12:08 AM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I'm very serious LOL. Mars seems pretty accurate for me. In ways I feel very Cancer especially when it comes to DeepFreeze. Like I'd kill for him it's that deep lol. Other ways I'm so libra. Do you think it fits for you? You're definitely Jupiter strong. You're so humanitarian, or at least that's the vibe I get. Very witty and have a little bit of Sag feel to you.
Yeah, Jupiter fits, but Mercury and Venus do very much, too.
But Mars? No, not at all. The only time I'm aggressive is when I get into debates sometimes (well I wouldn't really say "aggressive", but rather direct and strong), but I attribute that to my 3rd House Mars. And thank you
My Moon is also in the 11th House in Aquarian's Decan, so that probably plays a a lot into my humanitarian vibe. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted June 18, 2014 12:12 AM
Well, her Mars is very active and energetic but in a nurturing and protective way. I don't think it necessarily equates to aggression. Maybe how it comes out... Be it strong or weak... The nature in which it's expressed.
Sound logical??
Applicable to your Mars maybe?
I'm half guessing lol IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted June 18, 2014 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Well, her Mars is very active and energetic but in a nurturing and protective way. I don't think it necessarily equates to aggression. Maybe how it comes out... Be it strong or weak... The nature in which it's expressed.
Sound logical??
Applicable to your Mars maybe?
I'm half guessing lol
Yeah, it makes sense, but when a planet is strong or weak, the stronger it is, the more prominent it will be, and the weaker it is, the less prominent it will be. I think my Venus, Sun and Mercury are more prominent than Mars, and they also show that in Astro.com's strength calculator (Astro Pullen). I can also see why they're stronger in my chart, unlike Mars.
And the Sun is really funny. Minus 2?! It's highly aspected and the Chart Ruler! LOL. Oh, I meant aggression because I was referring to Mars
The more direct or strong "Mars" is, the more aggressive it will seem. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted June 18, 2014 12:21 AM
It just weird to me because I have just as many sqaures with Mars as I do with Neptune and Uranus. But Neptune isn't as strong. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted June 18, 2014 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
It just weird to me because I have just as many sqaures with Mars as I do with Neptune and Uranus. But Neptune isn't as strong.
Yeah, it's a mystery, lol. Hopefully, Ellynlvx will clarify what they take into account (if you know how they calculate it, that is, Ellynlvx) IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted June 18, 2014 12:30 AM
It's funny because Vedic says Saturn is my strongest planet, while this says Saturn is the weakest, while Astro-pullen says Venus is (which makes the most sense out of all them, so far).In Vedic, I have Mercury in Virgo in the 3rd House; which is it's own sign and house for Mercury... a Virgo Sun and Venus, Gemini Moon and Chart Ruler (Moon) in Gemini (a Mercury-ruled sign), so Mercury should be without a doubt my strongest planet in Vedic, but it's not. It's second strongest.
My Saturn is in Aquarius in Vedic (co-domicile) and Rx (retrograde is said to make a planet stronger by some Astrologists), but still, compared to Mercury's uber-strength in there, Mercury should overpower it as 1st. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted June 18, 2014 12:32 AM
Oh Good Gravy, you want me to try to pull that thing up Again??!!What was that Mercury Degree? I think I told DeepFreeze how it was calculated last page, though. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow.
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posted June 18, 2014 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Oh Good Gravy, you want me to try to pull that thing up Again??!!What was that Mercury Degree? I think I told DeepFreeze how it was calculated last page, though.
No, you don't have to pull it up again, Ellynlvx I'm just confused as to how it is calculated. "Yeah, it's Natal. They take Accidental Dignity and Essential Dignity, and use that to figure Total Strength." What does that mean? What's the difference between Accidental Dignity and Essential Dignity? Like, Essential Dignity is Jupiter in Sagittarius for example, and Accidental Dignity is Jupiter in an angular house for example, since it's accidental because it depends on where your houses fall?
Or is Accidental Dignity for example, a planet like Mercury in Scorpio (or any other planets in Scorpio) would be powering Pluto's strength, since it's the Pluto-ruled sign. And Essential Dignity the planet's strength itself, such as the aspects, sign and house it is placed in? Like Saturn in Cancer or Aries for example, would be a weak Essential Dignity for Saturn? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted June 18, 2014 06:59 AM
Bottom line: it's BS.
Kidding. Well, I mean you guys are all happy with your Plutos and Jupiters as leading planets, and what do I get?? Saturn... No, thanks! I'm outta here.
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Ellynlvx
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posted June 18, 2014 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
No, you don't have to pull it up again, Ellynlvx I'm just confused as to how it is calculated. "Yeah, it's Natal. They take Accidental Dignity and Essential Dignity, and use that to figure Total Strength." What does that mean? What's the difference between Accidental Dignity and Essential Dignity? Like, Essential Dignity is Jupiter in Sagittarius for example, and Accidental Dignity is Jupiter in an angular house for example, since it's accidental because it depends on where your houses fall?
Or is Accidental Dignity for example, a planet like Mercury in Scorpio (or any other planets in Scorpio) would be powering Pluto's strength, since it's the Pluto-ruled sign. And Essential Dignity the planet's strength itself, such as the aspects, sign and house it is placed in? Like Saturn in Cancer or Aries for example, would be a weak Essential Dignity for Saturn?
Jupiter is Exalted in Cancer, if that helps.
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Ellynlvx
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posted June 18, 2014 12:04 PM
Hey Doux, I'm same as you, Saturn and Uranus.Drives me insane, too. Traditionally Eccentric? IP: Logged |
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