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fishbull11
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posted June 22, 2014 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fishbull11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chain em' to the porch, but then bring them delectable things to eat like tiramisu and prime rib so they don't knaw through the chain..which will eventually happen anyway as freedom always comes a calling. Gotta love those free souls though, fun people.

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posted June 22, 2014 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariestaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I definitely get bored by too much relationship talk, talking about feelings,etc.. It's a big turn off when a partner is really needy and calls/texts me too much with nothing interesting to say. I dated a guy last year who would get paranoid/worried if I didn't text him right back. We didn't last very long!! I can't deal with people who are too sensitive.

People who tell me what to do really annoy me. You cannot tell a Sag what to do. Period. Don't even try.

My friend is dating a guy with Sun, Mercury, Venus, Saturn, and Uranus conjunct in Sag, and he always stresses the importance of having his own life. He responds better to aggression than to sappy, emotional displays. When she nags him to do something, he does the opposite.

I love people who make me laugh and who are playful and can be goofy/silly sometimes. I like keeping things light and fun.

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Odette
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posted June 22, 2014 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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my Leo/Aries ex told me pretty early on and that was: you and I are not friends, you are my girlfriend

Yeah... I often get that with Aries and Sag :\
Not so much Leo. Leos have better manners and even if they 'think' certain things they still wouldn't say them out loud.
But your guy had a crappy Aries Moon, so I'm not surprised by his attitude.

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posted June 22, 2014 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Lol, no clue whatsoever?!

Honestly NO! Lol
I think of an old song...can't remember who sings it, but it says, "hold on loosely but don't let go, of you cling too tightly your going to loose control" or lose your saggys love!
It's a delicate balance and if you play it right we slowly learn to trust that your an asset to our lives not a liability that wants to cage us up and burst our bubbles.

Too much drama, overly dramatic and premature expressions of feelings w/o the foundation make me question if your being honest about your feelings or playing me.

When our feelings are still on the fence about how we feel about you then just be chill, fun and let us set the pace. If you push us, it feels your trying to control us.
If your aloof and distant you will bore us.
If you put on an act you will disappoint or annoy us depending on how much we liked you, just be real.

After we fall in love we want to be your champion and figure out how to help you lighten your load so that you can fly with us.
If there's to much drama or if you seem to make drama we get overwhelmed and feel we can never give you that...so we might choose not to get to close to you at all.

I think that is why huge drama ppl and ppl that make drama about everything we tend to leave is because no matter how hard we try we will not be able to help them find the joy in life because all they focus on and invest in is the negative, that's to hard on us to be around all the time it's torture.

Honestly we are the most light heart'd intensely deep ppl you will ever meet.
It's hard to be a brilliant philosopher and a horse at the same time!

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posted June 22, 2014 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
You're sag?!
I don't know why I didn't know that.

For me...
Well I'm actually pretty chill. It's not as if they spontaneously travel the world. But a lot of times if they said, "Hey, we should do ...*this*..." I'd be like, "Ok cool."

Also, their bluntness never rubbed me wrong, ever that I remember. I know they do not mean harm. Truth is truth, and I can appreciate that. I think that helps.

They like silliness, jokes, a willingness to laugh at yourself. I am definitely all of those things. You guys have no idea. LOL

You almost have to be another Sag, in a way. If you're fun to be around, they will come back. It won't happen overnight though.
They want someone to "add" to them. Someone ready to go out of the box. I think if you're moody, etc. They'll keep moving.
Though, once won over, they are fantastic with helping you through things. They know that positive, fun person just hit a bump. They want their friend back.

That's been my experience. Not that I'm claiming to be the know-all of Sags.
That's how I see it.


Yep, saggy stellium in my 3rd!!
I like your statement about one we are won over, that's very true! We are real friends through thick n thin, we want others to be as happy as we are.

Also wholeheartedly agree with what you said about moody ppl! If ppl make it hard for us to make them happy, we can't hang around them to long...its the equavilant to a kill joy...we try to make joy and they are killing it! We just want everyone to be happy when they prevent that, they kind of crush our spirits.

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posted June 22, 2014 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are dating a sag with venus in aquarius you never will...these people are over represented in the serial killer category and I know two that have divorced in the last year after 25 years of marriage. Both cheated.

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posted June 22, 2014 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I agree...you have to be careful, if they don't have any solid placements that add depth or something that helps them want to fall in love, stay in love and genuinely get attached...I'd run!!

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posted June 22, 2014 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexDern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I agree...you have to be careful, if they don't have any solid placements that add depth or something that helps them want to fall in love, stay in love and genuinely get attached...I'd run!!

Absolutely...I would have disagree months ago, but my experience and research point in this direction now..

Venus in aquarius for example can be rooted if the person is a capricorn sun...

But venus in aquarius with a pisces or sag sun can be dangerous, and even deadly, in relationships.

I say venus aquarius and cap sun is cool not just because those are my own placements but I call those the ronald reagan placements...the old solid oak who was always there for his wife...

Of course, there was watergate but that isn't necessarily an issue of being faithful, or violent.

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posted June 22, 2014 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread makes me chuckle as I identify with a lot of it, but I am not a Sag. No Sag placements and nothing in the 9th, I only have a G-trine with Jupiter-Moon-Venus. Then again Uranus is also aspecting my Moon, Mercury and Venus, and my Sun, Merc, and Venus are all in the 11th.

I love Sags, too. I've had a number of Sag friends, and two SCs; one with a Sag Sun, the other an Aries Sun with a Sag Moon. my "TF" had his MC in Sag, too.

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posted June 22, 2014 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AlexDern:

But venus in aquarius with a pisces or sag sun can be dangerous, and even deadly, in relationships.


Well this is interesting...Any stories you care to share (relating to those with these placements)?

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hannaramaa
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posted June 22, 2014 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol I make friends with Venus in Aquarius people all the time. We get along great. I know a Pisces sun, Libra moon, Venus in Aquarius. She's very generous in her relationships but hates talking about her feelings and is stubborn especially if she feels rejected (note: it's Pisces mixed with the weirdness of Aquarius, so while they can read people sometimes it's taken too far). Nobody can really read her if she doesn't want them to which I attribute to both Pisces and her Venus. She's really patient in love, doesn't stress out over what someone's doing or not doing which I admire. I have Venus in the 11th so I relate a lot to Venus in Aquariuses, but don't necessarily act like them since mine's in Aries.

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posted June 24, 2014 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine has stayed over three years.

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posted June 25, 2014 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There isn't anyone who could get me to relate with them every day, I just don't/can't do that. I think it's because when I (sag sun/venus) do choose to do social things like get on FB or go hang out with my friends, it's like I never do anything half a$$ed. I make sure that I talk to everyone that I need to, probably above and beyond what is socially "required" and it really wears me out. Therefore I need time to recharge so that the next time I can be the same sort of "best possible" representation of myself. That's kinda the way we work. We go at everything full steam and therefore need time alone. It's hard for me to understand it the other way... people who just sort of bob and weave their way through the day, the week.. their life! Sure, they are dependable.. always there, but the cost of always being there seems to be that they are not always burning their brightest, which is what Saggies want to always at least TRY to do.


So for me, anyone who bugs me every day, and would force me to interact when I just cannot, would never last with me. My longest relationship to date is with a Capricorn with tons of Earth and Water. He understands not to take my distance personally and he can sort of hold things back and not come at me with them 24/7. Hope this helps, good luck!

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posted June 25, 2014 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There isn't anyone who could get me to relate with them every day, I just don't/can't do that. I think it's because when I (sag sun/venus) do choose to do social things like get on FB or go hang out with my friends, it's like I never do anything half a$$ed. I make sure that I talk to everyone that I need to, probably above and beyond what is socially "required" and it really wears me out. Therefore I need time to recharge so that the next time I can be the same sort of "best possible" representation of myself. That's kinda the way we work. We go at everything full steam and therefore need time alone. It's hard for me to understand it the other way... people who just sort of bob and weave their way through the day, the week.. their life! Sure, they are dependable.. always there, but the cost of always being there seems to be that they are not always burning their brightest, which is what Saggies want to always at least TRY to do.


So for me, anyone who bugs me every day, and would force me to interact when I just cannot, would never last with me. My longest relationship to date is with a Capricorn with tons of Earth and Water. He understands not to take my distance personally and he can sort of hold things back and not come at me with them 24/7. Hope this helps, good luck!


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posted June 25, 2014 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Interesting!

Yeah, my Sag Venus-Neptune feels the same way...not wanting to do anything half-a$$ed. When my friends don't hear from me it's usually because I'm planning on sending them a giant email or package, or saving up stories for when we meet in person.

I hear from my Sag sun friends pretty often, could be my Cap self-reliance tiding me over those times when they're busy with other things.

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posted June 27, 2014 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a female Sag with Taurus Ascendant and your description of your friend sounds a lot like me. Taurus Ascendant is a good mix for Sag, because we need the grounding. Also, it's not a bad deal, to be ruled by Jupiter and Venus...though you do need to be careful not to overdo the pleasures of life with these placements.

If you want to keep a Sag around, give him or her space, talk about ideas/philosophies, and try not to get offended if he/she talks a lot. If this is a problem for you, gently remind him/her to please listen sometimes too.

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Originally posted by IV XXIV:
I'm very good friends with a Sag. However, he does have Taurus AC.. So it may not be exactly relevant to you.

We've been friends for a year or two now, and every now and then we'll get a little distant and go some time without speaking. We both put in effort about 50% of the time. The other 25% it's him putting in more effort, other 25% it's me. Kind of like a seesaw.

I've found that just being dry with him works. I don't do it purposely, but it makes him try more when he feels that I'm pulling away. I've tried many times to walk away from him and that'll usually spark something in him to hold on tighter.

I wouldn't recommend doing that purposely or in the beginning stages.. He and I have some weird history with each other and we've grown very close, to love and care for one another, so that makes it a little harder to just cut it off. If we didn't take the time to build our relationship to where it is, I wouldn't imagine him to try as much or persuade me when I try to cut him out of my life.

It did take a very long time for him to consider me a best friend (we've since drifted). Talking almost everyday, hanging out weekly, and me really putting in initiative to learn about him and his past struggles was what did it.

Good luck if you do ever decide upon a Sag lol. They really are something else


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posted June 27, 2014 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's true; people think Taureans and Scorpios are the most indomitable sign, but I'm a Sag and I think we're the one sign you absolutely cannot rein in and control. Taureans and Scorpios and Arians too will pitch big temper tantrums if you try to boss them around, but they'll eventually make a deal or settle into some type of working agreement. Sagittarians will buck like wild horses forever until we get out of whatever pen anyone tries to put us in. Don't even try. We're slippery too, and we run fast.


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Originally posted by charlie:
I can answer this because I love Saggis and have many friends!

Answer is: go with the flow of things. Sometimes they might want to talk everyday and then vanish (roam) and sometimes you'll hear from them 3 months later. They always seem to just be able to pick up convo where it was left. I have one Sag friend in China, one in NYC, one in Stockholm, one in Los Angeles and one in London Oh and one Sag Moon in Ohio, Stockholm and Los Angeles.

Do NOT try and rein them in!!!


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