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Aries23Degrees
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posted June 24, 2014 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
She has Merc-Sun-Sat conjunct in Scorp (Merc to Sat 3° with sun in the middle). Pluto also in 10 at 29°+ Libra. Frankly, the pressure crushes her at times. She *knows* she's meant to do *something*, if only she can find out what.


She's off to a very good start. How old is she? She shouldn't worry too much or she may end up stressed to pieces.

I remember watching a documentary on Patrick Dempsey( the guy who plays Dr "McDreamy" on Greys Anatomy) and I recall how he said, during his younger years, he wanted things to happen so badly for him, that he never really learned to relax.


As a Sun in Capricorn ,I imagine he took acting career seriously, took his roles seriously and no matter how much or how hard he tried, his career didn't go where he wanted it to and this frustrated him to no end.

When he finally learned to "let go" and relax, the role of Dr. Derek Shepherd on "Greys Anatomy" landed so easily on his lap.And he has since been known for that role.

I get where she is coming from, but she should go easy on this really. Otherwise she'll end up going around in circles just so she can keep herself "moving", the "purpose" will show up once she learns to relax and see it.

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ariestaurus
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posted June 24, 2014 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariestaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Please say sag

He's a..........

SCORPIO! :O

Poor man, indeed! Stuck with 3 crazy Sag ladies!

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nove731
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posted June 24, 2014 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I know what you mean. But don't you feel "split" at times?

Aries Sun is very independent and yet, the house position suggests that much of your focus will be geared towards interpersonal relations.

On the one hand is the need to be independent. Whilst on the other hand , there is a need to form strong bonds(7th house Sun)? Do you ever reconcile the two or is it a constant striving towards conscious balance?


Yes and no. It's complicated. One the one hand, I feel like I often fall into the 7th House "projection" trap, and I don't really own my Aries qualities too much, in which case I don't really feel too "split". On the other, I DO feel split sometimes in that I very much value the idea that I am an individual...but at the same time, I can't deny that as "individual" as I am, I don't really function well alone. I am not what I would call clingy, but I am definitely co-dependent. Put another way, I function very well as an individual component of a relationship (I don't lose myself in it, I can aggressively advocate for my needs, demand equality, etc...Aries), but if I don't have that structure, I can't actually function at all (I feel so lost, like a ship without a sail...7th House). Does that make sense?

Also, to touch on your last point: I'm not sure if this is because my Sun is very poorly aspected, or if this is a common thing for this placement, but I do feel very much that I am always striving toward a "conscious balance" (I actually think that's a good way of phrasing it, haha). In fact, rather than indicating a natural inclination TOWARD balance, I often feel like having the Sun in the 7th House was the universe's sick way of trying to teach me a lesson. I actually have a strong tendency toward extremes, and I find that striking a balance between opposing forces (i.e., indulgence vs. deprivation, work vs. leisure, self-confidence vs self-consciousness, etc.), is something that I have to expend a great deal of effort to achieve.

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Sun -> Aries
Moon -> Sagittarius
Ascendant -> Virgo

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Aries23Degrees
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posted June 24, 2014 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
5th house Aquarius sun. I don't feel very Aquarian. Maybe because the sun is in detriment and also in the house of the sun. I'm very much the bohemian type. I love to draw and play music and dance. Also I'm a bit of a drama queen.

2nd house Pisces sun for my boyfriend. He's very earthy for a Pisces.(also got cap rising) he's very concerned with money and the security it brings and spends a lot of time worrying about it. Most Pisces couldn't care less about that. He's also very stable and reliable.

For our Venus and Mars signs the houses they are in have a huge influence too.


Just like the Sun in a specific house affects the Area where it is transmitted, I reckon Venus and Mars in their respective houses, should too.

I think I was focusing more on the Sun position than the other placements.

One question; you mentioned that you do dancing,drawing and music- which is creative work -but don't "feel" like an Aquarius.

Do you find that in your creative outlets, you get bursts of inspiration that seem to come like a lightning bolt "out of nowhere"?

Maybe you have periods where you go through a dry spell and find nothing inspirational and then, suddenly, something magical happens or is observed and you find that new creative urge pounces?

It could also mean that you could be interested in "alternative" forms of dancing/music; outside the mainstream.

You could be into differing styles of dancing -that defy the "norm". The list is not exhaustive, but my point is that this is how the "Aquarius" energy is being manifested.

Aquarius is about doing stuff "outside the box". Do you find that much of your creative outlets are "outside the box" and are not meant to be commercialized or streamlined into the accepted "norms"?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted June 24, 2014 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ariestaurus:
He's a..........

SCORPIO! :O

Poor man, indeed! Stuck with 3 crazy Sag ladies!


Give that man a bells!!!!

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Aries23Degrees
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posted June 24, 2014 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nove731:
Yes and no. It's complicated. One the one hand, I feel like I often fall into the 7th House "projection" trap, and I don't really own my Aries qualities too much, in which case I don't really feel too "split". On the other, I DO feel split sometimes in that I very much value the idea that I am an individual...but at the same time, I can't deny that as "individual" as I am, I don't really function well alone. I am not what I would call clingy, but I am definitely co-dependent. Put another way, I function very well as an individual component of a relationship (I don't lose myself in it, I can aggressively advocate for my needs, demand equality, etc...Aries), but if I don't have that structure, I can't actually function at all (I feel so lost, like a ship without a sail...7th House). Does that make sense?

Also, to touch on your last point: I'm not sure if this is because my Sun is [b]very poorly aspected, or if this is a common thing for this placement, but I do feel very much that I am always striving toward a "conscious balance" (I actually think that's a good way of phrasing it, haha). In fact, rather than indicating a natural inclination TOWARD balance, I often feel like having the Sun in the 7th House was the universe's sick way of trying to teach me a lesson. I actually have a strong tendency toward extremes, and I find that striking a balance between opposing forces (i.e., indulgence vs. deprivation, work vs. leisure, self-confidence vs self-consciousness, etc.), is something that I have to expend a great deal of effort to achieve.[/B]


I see.

From my side,you seem to be doing so very well. And so well-spoken

Libra folks must be falling all over themselves to get to you. Libra folks go in for that eloquence(followed very closely by Gemini) and my Mars in Libra is already salivating.

Very well put

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Gemini Blues
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posted June 24, 2014 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Please say sag

Pisces would be really funny. I could totally see it...

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bansheequeen
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posted June 24, 2014 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Just like the Sun in a specific house affects the Area where it is transmitted, I reckon Venus and Mars in their respective houses, should too.

I think I was focusing more on the Sun position than the other placements.

One question; you mentioned that you do dancing,drawing and music- which is creative work -but don't "feel" like an Aquarius.

Do you find that in your creative outlets, you get bursts of inspiration that seem to come like a lightning bolt "out of nowhere"?

Maybe you have periods where you go through a dry spell and find nothing inspirational and then, suddenly, something magical happens or is observed and you find that new creative urge pounces?

It could also mean that you could be interested in "alternative" forms of dancing/music; outside the mainstream.

You could be into differing styles of dancing -that defy the "norm". The list is not exhaustive, but my point is that this is how the "Aquarius" energy is being manifested.

Aquarius is about doing stuff "outside the box". Do you find that much of your creative outlets are "outside the box" and are not meant to be commercialized or streamlined into the accepted "norms"?


I guess I meant more to do with how everything describes Aquarius to be. Also I feel like I have a very weak sense of self. I don't really know who I am or what I'm all about. I couldn't describe my personality to you.

Hm. A lot of the things I do aren't "mainstream" but it's not really because of any conscious effort. But you have a good point. I am very random and I don't even know why I do things sometimes. But yes a lot of the things I do are very outside the box! It's weird how Aquarius is about belonging to groups yet also about breaking free from society's norms.

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ariestaurus
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posted June 24, 2014 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariestaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Give that man a bells!!!!

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fairaqua
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posted June 24, 2014 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I think it is the 5th house cusp in Capricorn that makes you a lot more "serious" in the house that is supposed to be the area where you relax, have fun and let go.

Capricorn here can want to turn a hobby into a career or make money on the side etc. So I understand the need to "organize"(Saturn) the activities of this house.

And as far as acting and singing is concerned, first get an academic knowledge and go to a music school or acting school etc. Capricorn has a high regard for formal education.

This will give the Capricorn nature in you a lot more confidence because it will attain the "credentials" that prove that it is "competent" and "good enough" etc.(Degree/Diploma)

Actually, I find that Capricorns are usually more competent and efficient than most people.

It could be that someone in authority messed with their confidence along the way and most develop an acute inferiority complex that has them consciously delay growth because they feel "under-prepared" or "not ready" etc.

Hollywood is filled with Capricorn actors like Denzel Washington, Dame Maggie Smith and Anthony Hopkins who are all about the craft- and they are amazing.


My mom totally needed with my confidence and ability to seriously commit.
Everytime I became really good at something she took me out of it.
Gymnastics wanted me to start competing - oh, no time, let's pull her out
Horseback riding wanted to take me to the next level of serious competing - oh, that's going to get in the way of financing my alcohol.


As a kid you don't understand as much. Even now as an adult it's hard to break "habit". Just having things snatched away after years of commitment does funny things to the brain.


I attribute these problems to 4th house Saturn and 8th house moon.


BUT I am working on starting a little side business of all natural soaps and lip balms

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posted June 24, 2014 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bravo. You have my support

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fairaqua
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posted June 25, 2014 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Bravo. You have my support

Thank you!

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