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LionFish
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posted July 15, 2014 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fire signs arent selfish..

I suppose they could be mistaken for such by people who don't understand their general nature which is to love and be loved back just the same. I'm not sure I even read the selfishness in your story. "What about me" insinuates that he is receiving much les than what hes putting into it.. Like his needs are being pushed aside for yours, perhaps. And if thats the case he has every right to start being a little selfish..

With any fire sign you get out of them what you put in. For a while (albeit a short while) they'll allow an imbalance in shows of affection or attention, to see if them showering you with both will pay off. But it's hard to not react when you feel like you are being taken for granted, and fire folk tend to react in a big way. Aries with their temper bc they are hurt, Leo with their regal air letting you know in no uncertain terms that your behavior is unacceptable and beneath them, and Sag will probably just up and disappear after telling you that it's what they'll do if things dont change... Self preservation? Yes, definitely. But selfish just for the sake of it? No, I just dont see it.

I'm a Leo Asc, Aries Venus 9h, Sag Mars/Saturn/Uranus 5h, and a 9h Pisces Sun/Merc... I give/do anything for the people I love, but if those same people are ungrateful or show me no appreciation for those things, I take it as my cue to start taking care of me, myself, and I. Like any person with a healthy sense of self should.

Instead of accusing people of being selfish maybe you should reevaluate your contribution to their world and see if it stacks as high as theirs to your world. If it doesn't equal out, or at least come very close, you'll have your answer to why your fire sign is being "selfish"

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Jessica2407
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posted July 15, 2014 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am going to speak for myself being a magnificent Leo ( ) that has multiple sun conjunctions and saturn conjunctions with all the planets that make my 8th house Leo stellium.
I am VERY generous towards the person I really love, when I say generous I mean I would give him my time, do things he likes,as long as I also enjoy these things of course! BUT I WANT no I DEMAND ( )that I am treated the same way. If not, then I would become grumpy and I would complain about every single thing

Kinda like a child

A big self centered child!

But not selfish.

NOT if the person shows me that he cares about me as much as I care about him. I can NEVER be selfish towards someone I really love.

However, may be fire signs are A BIT self centered because (may be) they instinctively think of themselves first ( especially leos and fire signs that are heavily saturn influenced), their feelings and emotions, and they tend to snatch the focus light onto them instead of asking the other person, okay what's up, why are you being moody? you know it's just how solid your relationship is and it's something that takes time and communication.

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posted October 27, 2021 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhiteBirds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Well firstly if he were selfish believe me he wouldn't say "what about me", he would essentially be saying "me first". Fire signs are extremely loyal and like to be treated equally, if they aren't being treated the same way they treat their loved one then they feel as if they don't exist, or matter to that person. He's also like you said water heavy, which means he expects the exact same and so much more. That water wants to be the first thing you think of in the morning and the last thing you think of at night. It's all or nothing and absolutely not for the faint hearted.

Secondly you're an Aquarius, they are selfish by nature, with an it's "always about me" approach. You can't grasp their nature because it's only about you, and what you want in your own head and then him, it's alien to you.

[b]Now obviously the whole chart should be taken into consideration, but if we want to generalize then Aqua is the selfish one in the sense of their inconsistent, aloof and detached ways. Fire are the loyal ones, who expect to be treated equally, if they aren't then they'll say "what about me" or just leave. I don't see that as being greedy, but wanting to be treated the same way he treats you, not to mention his wateriness expects the same and much more.

**All from my own observations and experiences.**

I am a water dominant Libra, raised around the most selfish, heavy Aqua man ever, and married to a Leo. [/B]


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I haven't seen so much truth together in a long time

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posted November 05, 2021 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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teasel
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posted November 05, 2021 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I love it when horrible generalizations are bumped.

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posted November 05, 2021 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Oh, I love it when horrible generalizations are bumped.

Every sign and element has the potential to be selfish.

Its just that certain signs are more likely to be selfish depending on the scenario.

When my parents were drawing up there wills my capircorn sister tried to get as much money as she can.

Sorta backfired on her...my Cancer sun parents didn't take well to that.

Anything with money, I'd argue that a Capircorn sun is more likely to be selfish in that scenario...more so then the other signs.

I think the OP's refering to the unique scenario that whould make a fire sign more selfish.

I can't speak for Aries, I've seen Sagittarius get selfish when money is involved and Leo when it comes to anything regarding there ego.

Those are the scenarios I can think of...avoid a Leo and Sag. during those two scenarios and they won't be selfish.

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posted November 05, 2021 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LiesLilithsaidtouranus:
As an air sign, with only Pluto as my fire sign I can't seem to grasp the ideas of of fire signs nature. I'm an aquarius dating a Sag who happens to be Scorpio heavy, which is kind of good for me.
But I notice no matter how giving they are, they can be quite selfish. They have this mind set that they have to feel good, they always ask, 'but what about what I want?"
And when it comes to what I want, they are like, 'no let's do this instead, I'm sure you'll like it'
Oh and when you try to satisfy them, they aren't all that happy or content. They seem to find something wrong about what you just done.
Why are you fire signs so greedy!?


To be honest, you sound like the selfish one in the equation. You pretty much just told told on yourself lol

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posted November 06, 2021 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
Every sign and element has the potential to be selfish.

Its just that certain signs are more likely to be selfish depending on the scenario.

When my parents were drawing up there wills my capircorn sister tried to get as much money as she can.

Sorta backfired on her...my Cancer sun parents didn't take well to that.

Anything with money, I'd argue that a Capircorn sun is more likely to be selfish in that scenario...more so then the other signs.

I think the OP's refering to the unique scenario that whould make a fire sign more selfish.

I can't speak for Aries, I've seen Sagittarius get selfish when money is involved and Leo when it comes to anything regarding there ego.

Those are the scenarios I can think of...avoid a Leo and Sag. during those two scenarios and they won't be selfish.

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At least it wasn't said that we're always raging. That's one that gets thrown around a lot.


Although I have looked like this, at times.

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DualGemV2
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posted November 06, 2021 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
At least it wasn't said that we're always raging. That's one that gets thrown around a lot.


I have aries moon, so i'd be raging mad before any aries sun whould.

If you ever get the chance to encounter an Aries sun with a Cancer moon do it.

I swear there the least likely person to be selfish.

There heart is in the right place with there Cancer moon and they have the energy to project it with there Aries sun...they are literaly the sweetest Aries suns you can find.

To be honest I haven't actually encountered an Aries sun that was selfish though.

But...sticking to the topic and showing there's more to then generalizations.

I'd think of the time Jeremy Clarkson (Aries Sun) punched Piers Morgan (Aries Sun).

Two diffrent types of Aries sun males, Piers Morgan is a selfish jerk and not a nice guy.

Clarkson is an overzealous car enthusiast obsesed with fast cars and is well respected for his knowledge on the subject.

I think Aries could be interpreted as selfish if they come off appearing childish.

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