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Barbiegirl19
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posted July 12, 2014 04:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It even better when you have a water dominant air person and an earth dominant fire person. Bubbly, over spilling mud, like an erupting volcano


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WarriorPrincess7
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posted July 12, 2014 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarriorPrincess7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
It even better when you have a water dominant air person and an earth dominant fire person. Bubbly, over spilling mud, like an erupting volcano



Lol , sounds lovely I'm sure its an amazing combination haha

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teasel
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posted July 12, 2014 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are? I think of others regularly.

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NeptunianSag
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posted July 12, 2014 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think us fire signs need an ego boost from time to time to know that we are truly living and on fire!

Everyone needs their ego fed, don't deny this.

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posted July 12, 2014 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by WarriorPrincess7:
I find fire and fire are the best, especially two fires that have alot of water placements from the previous sign (ex: sag with heavy scorp or aries with heavy pisces like me). Fire and air are nonetheless still good together!!

I find this to be the best too. Fire begets fire, more so than any other sign. I can vibe with air signs good but I vibe with fire signs fantastically. Its not even a comparison really.

And about Fire signs being selfish...Like everyone else has been saying, we want to be treated how we treat others. We expect the same across the board and if someone isn't meeting that criteria, it won't work. I recently cut off an AQUARIUS friend because he was simply way too selfish and not considerate about others (especially me). He is a triple Air (aquarius sun, libra moon, gemini rising). I would be the greatest friend for him, giving him counsel, advice, new music I didn't show anyone else, buy him food, lend him incredible amounts of money (I've lent him over 600$ within the year, which is a lot for a college student), and he almost never did any of it back for me, and was ALWAYS reluctant to do so if he did.

I gave him 300$ to buy his EDC ticket to go with me so we could have fun times and he turned around and berated me, blamed me for everything wrong about the trip, complained about me, judged me, and did all this other nasty stuff and when I called him out on it, Oh there was nothing wrong with him! He was perfect in every way, I was the one with all of the problems.

I was there for him when he needed rides because he drunk drove and crashed his car. I even took him to the police station to try and find his license plate that fell off and was consoling him the whole time. When I got incredibly drunk due to depression and HE WAS THERE WITH ME, what did he do? He left, not giving a single **** about me, even though I went to the hospital.

If people don't treat us the same as we treat them, they're out of our lives for GOOD. Generalizations against aquarius's can work too, but I'm not going to generalize even though Aquarius's usually ARE selfish.

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DeepFreeze
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posted July 12, 2014 07:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heck I'm voluntarily working 24 hours of overtime this week so that we have plenty to take a trip back to her hometown.

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posted July 12, 2014 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I think us fire signs need an ego boost from time to time to know that we are truly living and on fire!

Everyone needs their ego fed, don't deny this.


*Everyone* - not just fire signs.

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posted July 12, 2014 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's def the scorpio that makes him act that way...Water signs tend to often have an inclination to focus only on themselves abd how they feel...Hence the common scenarios of mia behaviour from the water signs.

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Gemini Blues
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posted July 13, 2014 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo moon... Scorpio rising... Hmmm...

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teasel
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posted July 13, 2014 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got into a disagreement with someone who called all Aries "******** " earlier. It ended up making me laugh, but he was serious - and he's a Sadge.

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posted July 13, 2014 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elise11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hanaramaa Don t forget i m a taurus with venus in taurus. When my tongue has Been wet all Day because i already imagine what i m going to eat that evening in this Special restaurant and then soneone goes saying: oh let s rather have chinese and i Don t like it from One Second to the next i really get unhappy and stubborn as i am i probably Even stay at home without the others and suffer

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posted July 13, 2014 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
Leo moon... Scorpio rising... Hmmm...

*backs away from this thread slowly*



There is so much about this thread that is annoying me that I'm also going to back slowly away.

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Comatoes
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posted July 13, 2014 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comatoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Selfishness is a HUMAN trait, everyone is selfish in some degree. No sign or element has a monopoly over selfishness, although some aspects can cause more selfishness, some people have a lesser amount of "me" power and are indeed more generous than normal. But selfishness is about a lack of cooperation and doing right about someone, taking advantage of a situation, and no emotional connection to understand what others need and what you need and coming to a middle ground. Selfishness is immaturity and stems not only from being human but childhood.

Look at the Moon in both natal charts and the Moon in the synastry and composite, that will tell you about selfishness, cooperation (look at Venus), and sharing. Blaming one person for selfishness is not always the way to go, you should look at both people in the relationship.

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posted July 13, 2014 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm I am equal parts Aquarius and Cancer and equal parts Uranus and Mercury and I am REALLY selfish with my "freedom" in relationships. It's been pretty much my way or no way at all. I can't really say I have found Fire signs selfish....needy for attention perhaps would be more accurate. But loyal, if respected as a human.

I think best combo for fire is someone with a water heavy chart not necessarily being a sun/moon placement.

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elise11
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posted July 13, 2014 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elise11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You Hit the Point: Need for attention but loyal

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the89freespirit
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posted July 13, 2014 02:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think a Fire Sun who's in a good place personally knows the value of "healthy selfishness", meaning pursuing your own desires and standing by your beliefs and doing what makes you feel good, in spite of how it might effect others, at times. Sometimes, you just can't worry about that. It's something that not everyone can do, which can make Fire Suns a bit misunderstood, sometimes.

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sword lily
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posted July 13, 2014 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sword lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh well **** it

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DeepFreeze
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posted July 13, 2014 03:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What the heck is going on here? lol

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DeepFreeze
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posted July 13, 2014 03:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know sometimes "selfish" is a subjective thing.

More importantly, it really is each person's choice to feel insulted by it or not.

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posted July 13, 2014 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obviously there is a lot of personal experiences in the thread, so I'll add some.
I never found fire signs to be especially selfish, more like a combination of wanting to be involved and a bit of vanity. Neither is a bad thing, for me. They like contact, they like to be noticed, to be acknowledged.

I knew a Sag man with a lot of Scorpio and Leo placements who had an Aquarius/Gemini girlfriend. He said he eventually broke up with her because she was "uninvolved". Kind of, she never tried to dominate him or pressure him into things, but she never let him actively engage her, either. She was sort of always slipping between his fingers. He said he would have preferred fighting to that, because that felt like she was ignoring him.

Also, about Sags... they sometimes (once again, this is a personal experience/opinion thing) don't like people who take them out of their feel-good state. I think it's a Jupiter thing. They don't like pessimism, nagging, etc. And they are quite pushy, so when they push and push and you get annoyed about it, they are like why are you so down/touchy/weird? It annoys a lot of people. Not me though. Adore them. There is something about dealing with them that always feels like you just had an energy drink. Or three.

I actually know a Fire Sun person who allows you a lot of personal freedom and distance even if you are family/lover, and no surprise, her Moon is in Aquarius.

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DeepFreeze
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posted July 13, 2014 03:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^
Yep. I relate to that! (leo)

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KarkaQueen
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posted July 14, 2014 02:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strong Water people (not Pisces, Neptune is better) are compassionate, ethereal, easily depressed but non-judgemental.
Strong Earth people (especially Taurus) are very sensual, they just ooze it, love sex and materialistic pleasures -- quite nurturing and indulgent..
or they can be reserved, perfectionist, a little odd, with dry humor..

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Selenite
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posted July 14, 2014 01:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm. This seemed to be the opposite with my experience! I live by not expecting others to make me happy, and I've come across many air signs who blame me for their unhappiness.. (Libra and aquarius) Like they expect me to fix their problems, when I don't expect that from them.


This happens especially when I'm with scorpio moons.
I'm an sag with aries moon. I have mostly fire, and no air at all.


Honestly I think it's just a synastry thing. Some people with air qualities really understand me. Maybe I just attract the ones who don't!

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Selenite
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Originally posted by starrynight:

Also, about Sags... they sometimes (once again, this is a personal experience/opinion thing) don't like people who take them out of their feel-good state. I think it's a Jupiter thing. They don't like pessimism, nagging, etc. And they are quite pushy, so when they push and push and you get annoyed about it, they are like why are you so down/touchy/weird? It annoys a lot of people. Not me though. Adore them. There is something about dealing with them that always feels like you just had an energy drink. Or three.


Totally relate to this!

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sag_stellium
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posted July 14, 2014 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sag_stellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This sounds more like a boy girl problem than a sun sign problem.

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