posted July 12, 2014 05:01 PM            

First of all that's not even you, that's what the romans created for some sort of fary tail astrology, taking it out of scientific context, as they knew about aquarius, im positive they would of known that it wouldn't be uncovered until past 2012.

Where to begin, the true you, without clothes on, is the real positons of the stars alligned with planets, you don't even need a chart. The Chart takes it out of scietific context. The degree's don't exist, the modes and elements don't exist, so how are they included in a scientific argument?

Next, this was actually before 2012, the Alignment with the Galactic Center and Ophiuchus hadn't even happened yet.

To understand this i guess first you have to back before the **** romans, the egyptians and greeks both used the sky as it was, the scientific alignments, no chart or ******** like that. They used it as scientific symbology.

That argument makes no sense ATALL, it puts astrologers in a little small box they can't get out of by separating it from astronomy.

That version of astrology is how it was taken away from nature becoming MANMADE. Another arugment is for the romans have been able to create that, they themselves must have known it was accurate, as they even based our whole calender on it, so for someone to say that, without including the actual intelligent cultures, they are saying that the romans were wrong and every single advancement they made on astronomy was INCORRECT, which is **** absurd.

The one chart that does work (for my generation) is the 13 sign sidereal, with the real degree's, i'm moving towards not using a chart and finding a new way of reading it, buying a telescope is a good advance to actually understanding what the stars and planets are

How can an argument be based on something that contradicts itself in so many ways

That version of astrology is a simplified way of viewing it, Ptolemy etc were EXTREMELY intelligent, in a very deceitful way, when you start using modes and elements, you're actually ignoring what astrology is, the fact that we are the stars and the planets, for the chart to be true that has to be true, you can't have one without the other, but you've got to go deep to understand how that works, like i have, which i'm trying to bring to the surface

Thats how people are "debukning" it, by thinking astrology is PURELY the system the romans created with modes and elements etc, what happened the egyptians? Mayans? azteks? greeks? Dogons? Well we havn't known that because we havn't had the technology to actually discover any of this until the past 100 years, and not many people, have gone deep enough into the understanding of it to known whats wrong and whats right.

I know for a fact that the "roman empire" would of known what they were doing.

posted July 12, 2014 05:15 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Well good luck and I think it's the greatest to pursue what gives you passion, that's most important.

But you're running uphill.... I'm sure you know that.

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Thanks, and no i see it as the media are running uphill with no one giving them the right directions, we have no one else to listen to. Who controls the media in America? Ted Turner. What does Ted Turner want? A one child policy for the world so he can live with a population of 1million people ..
The worlds like upside down and astrology is one thing we can use to really advance humanity it just needs to be known about in the right way, it's really not difficult to prove it scientifically accurate.

There's alot of deeper stuff i can bring up but i'm choosing to come across in a light hearted manner ... for example Nibiru is the Brain... What does Pineal Gland mean? Annunaki.

The world "rules" hide alot, if you just say "is" it enlightens alot. Mars IS the head, Venus IS our features and senses. Sol (Sun) IS our heart ...

The planets and stars are literally our physical bodies.

The art of Qigong which i've just started studying is about channeling the energy of Chi, what it Chi? It's bioelectric energy from the Sophis/sirius sytem.

I use the egyptian names because they are the true symbolic meanings and are hidden from us.

posted July 12, 2014 05:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
You're the only person who cares THAT much LOL

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posted July 12, 2014 05:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I admire your passion. But it doesn't give you the right to talk down to people who disagree with you. This is a heated subject for you. Maybe you could write your own blog about it. Get some of the overflowing information you have in your head out.

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Great idea!

posted July 12, 2014 06:11 PM            

I was born when there was four main planets rising in the sky, and alot of asteroids, in astrology today we would call it a first house stellium

The Sun(Sol) was exactly conjunct or i say directly aligned, with Kaali, Cruithne, Christian, Talent and Hygiea, in Ophiuchus, Then Mercury is in a 5 degree conjunction, directly aligned with asteroids Ptah and King Arthur at the end of Scorpio, Eros and Antares and directly inbetween.

Mercury is in a wide 8 degree conjunction to Jupiter and Pluto on the ascendant or rising horizon in the Scorpion's Claws or Libra. Jupiter is directly aligned with asteroids Horus and the 1st magnitude star Alpha Centauri or Toliman, Pluto is directly aligned with Giza (a sign for egyptology) and asteroid ixion.

Directly on the ascendant are asteroids Nympth and Cupido.

My North Lunar Node or Draconic Head Node, which is your literal Head, is directly aligned with the asteroids Atlantis and Ophelia, in Libra/Scorpions Claws in the the 12th/13th house or the area of the sky that has already risen, this is your feet.

In the Second house or the dawning of the rise, which is your neck, The Moon was directly aligned with the 0 magnitude star Vega or Alpha Lyrae and the asteroid Pythia (aptitude for psychic ability) in a 5-7 degree alignment with Neptune and Uranus, all in the constellation of Sagittarius.
Though i am just starting to ignore the constellations and look at only the stars, as just because a planet is between a constellation , it doesn't mean it's under the influence of all the stars, and could only be the ones it closely alligned with. In that case The Moon would of been alligned with Vega(Alpha Lyrae), Rukbat (Alpha Sagitarii) and Alkab Pos. (beta Sagitaii).
(makes it to complicated though )

In the third house, your arms and lungs, Saturn was in Aquarius directly aligned with the stars Deneb Adige and Deneb, with a further alignment to Formalhaut.

In the Sixth house, Virgo's house, the house of the kidneys, the South Lunar Node, our body, was directly aligned with the small planet Sedna and the two asteroids Shiva and Jung. (Jung gives good ability for getting information for the subconscious)
In the seventh house, Libra's house, or the setting sky, either the Liver or the testicles, Earth(Ea/Tiamat) - Humanities centre is directly aligned with Uranian body Hades, then a wider allignment with stars Alderberan (Alpha Taurii) and Rigel (Beta Orionis), i'm not sure what Earth correlates with within us ....

In the eighth house, the northern setting point in the sky, was the Sothis or Sirius system, Sirius A (A huge start with low density), Sirius B (A tiny white dwarf massive density and Sirius C, which hasn't yet been located, i think the Sirius system also includes the planet Xylanthia , and Betelgeuse (Alpha Orionis), which i think is the bloodflow.

In the 9th/10 house (Sagittarius's house) Mars(Lahmu), our head, was directly aligned with the star Regulus, our second Sun (Core Leonis/Basiliskos) in Leo

The Highest point in the sky was aligned with the constellation Leo as well, with the asteroid Chiron in Virgo in a wide alignment.

In the eleventh/twelfth house, Venus (Lahamu) our senses and features, was in the sign Virgo.

Then theres the Draconic Nodal point chart which you find from taking the Northern Lunar node back to the Taurus - Orion point and subtracting the degree's from the rest of the planets.

posted July 12, 2014 06:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I admire your passion. But it doesn't give you the right to talk down to people who disagree with you. This is a heated subject for you. Maybe you could write your own blog about it. Get some of the overflowing information you have in your head out.

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Sorry if i come across that way haha :L

posted July 12, 2014 06:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Mystic_Cat:
Sorry if i come across that way haha :L

I just get annoyed because i've dedicated so much towards this and the first comment you posted was like, "You're used and misled" ... hahaha

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posted July 12, 2014 06:23 PM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mystic_Cat:
[b] Sorry if i come across that way haha :L

I just get annoyed because i've dedicated so much towards this and the first comment you posted was like, "You're used and misled" ... hahaha

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Haha, that's what i'm doing.

So much information and knowledge that we could embrace to enlighten ourselves is hidden, i don't stand for that.

posted July 12, 2014 06:44 PM            

I'm sure anything that you can give us can be explained with traditional astrology.
Plus, I'm of the belief that after thousands of years of being practiced. Humans would have figured out if it was flawed or didn't work.
Modern science is corrupting it in my view by being unsatisfied. They are so intent on discovering things it's crazy.

posted July 12, 2014 07:13 PM            

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Other signs are known for this and I don't see a big difference in the variety of bums among generations only among people of all ages... With my own two eyes. Younger people merely glorify it.
Libra is known for this as an example.

I'm sure anything that you can give us can be explained with traditional astrology.
Plus, I'm of the belief that after thousands of years of being practiced. Humans would have figured out if it was flawed or didn't work.
Modern science is corrupting it in my view by being unsatisfied. They are so intent on discovering things it's crazy.

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We have more of a Bum (Ophiuchus) because Earth aligned with the constellation Ophiuchus and the Centre of the Milky way (GC) on 2012, and because one of the largest stars we know of, one of the persian stars , Antares(Alpha Scorpii) centre of the Penis, is now in Ophiuchus. This is why the generation born after 1978, penis's just hang instead of energy being focused on the penis like the Antares in Scorpio "generation"

Yeah, traditional astrology gives you a good basic understanding, a superficial understand of some of the signs, elements, modes etc, but it separates the truth from the truth and takes you away from what actually exists. Which the elements and modes don't, and the polarities in the tropical babylonian zodiac arn't even the correct polarities!!

Taurus is opposite in alignment with Ophiuchus, which is the polarity of the feminine, and Orion is in alignment with Scorpius which is the polarity of the masculine.

The Neck is opposite the Bum and The Collar bones and Shoulders and the centre hole in between the collars bones (The Star alnitak) are opposite the genitals.

When Women and some men make the collar bones stand out and not there clothes, thats using the real alignment.

One of the first problems i see with that is thinking we've discovered everything, when we've only just began to start.

If you're in the older generation then you were born when the Sun was in Cetus and Pisces and Earth in Hydra, the biblical age of monolithic religions etc Since 1978 the Sun has moved into Fomalhaut and at around 2020 it will move into Aquarius, then we'll begin "the future", which is why mayans called 2012 the end of the world, because the future means societal control and the destruction of nature.

traditional astrology is good, but it doesn't actually work for who you naturally are, who you naturally are is the scientifically accurate positions of the alignments between the stars and planets, you can see that on the fixed star section on astro.com, but it's easier to see the stars using a chart.

If you look at that picture of me, when you look at MY right eye, that's the tropical chart, then MY left eye is the sidereal.

But when you look at me if i had no clothes on, just as my natural self, thats the natural positions of all the planets and stars.

The Egyptians had no "Astrology" they just called it astronomy, because it shouldn't be separated from what we discover, every discovery in space could genuinely be brought into a discovery of the self, we've just a found a planet that has the right conditions to support life and looks very similar to our Earth, Ea, Tiamat, called Kepler-186f, this planet is really connected to who we are, but it's difficult to explain ...

posted July 12, 2014 07:24 PM            

No, thats called inactivity, twinkies, and terrible butt implants/injections.

Da fuq does looking at my bum have to do with astrology?

Also: Since Claudius Ptolemy and the Greeks/Egyptians working around Alexandria two millennia ago formulated the rules of the Tropical Zodiac of 12 signs, there was no need to add any extra “constellation” since they were simply using higher mathematics (dividing the 360-degree circle of the sky into 12 equal parts).

posted July 12, 2014 07:29 PM            

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[b]when you take your clothes off look at your bum, you'll see it stands out compared to the older generation, thats Ophiuchus

No, thats called inactivity, twinkies, and terrible butt implants/injections.

Da fuq does looking at my bum have to do with astrology?[/B]

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Bro, you are the planets and stars !

posted July 12, 2014 07:46 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
See? You wrote all of that and I don't buy it.

How would all these stars from who the heck knows really how far away they are POSSIBLY influence us as much as a giant @$$ planet in our backyard?
Hogwash man...

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If you don't believe it why are you on a astrology forums? Only you can understand it yourself man haha

I'm not just like sharing a load of false knowledge, this is all accurate i've dedicated alot of time thinkin it through haha, if you don't believe me fair enough but most of what i said hold true cosmologically and scientifically and i wouldn't be ***** sharin it to help if i didn't know it was true!!

posted July 12, 2014 08:18 PM            

Not done Voodoo kind. You remind me of some person who got sucked into a pyramid scheme and are just over the top fanatical about it not knowing that it's crap.

Look... The astrology that we use had been working... Has been used for thousands of years.
Because you READ something and study it does not make it fact. Sure, things are where you said physically, astronomically, but ASTROLOGY is different. Astrology is interpretation of it. Signs are not physical bodies. Some dudes discovered something and wanted fame for this thing that they found in space. Simple as that.
So far I've seen no inconsistencies or things that didn't make sense and I dare you to find anyone here that thinks that there are. So far everyone who has responded has said it's crap. Why? Because we know this astrology works.
have thousands of years and countless professionals... What do you have besides some things that you read and decided were true after all? Ignoring that traditional STILL WORKS AND EXPLAINS what you're saying it doesn't.