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Topic: Are Venus in Virgo capable of unconditional love?
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Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted July 16, 2014 07:19 AM
  
Are we? I thought Venus in Pisces are more capable of this. Maybe they are. But I think polarity has something to do with this. Venus is in its fall in Virgo and I think one of the biggest lessons a person with this placement has to learn in their lives is to love unconditionally and not expect anything in return. Am I right about this?------------------
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charlie
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posted July 16, 2014 08:56 AM
Unconditional and Virgo doesn't ring correct in my ears...they do analyze the **** out of everything so how can that be unconditional? Also, nothing is unconditional. Not even dogs love their master unconditionally if treated badly for too long. I am just a Virgo Asc but my list of "conditions" is longer than the Eiffel Tower. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 16, 2014 08:59 AM
I do not like venus in virgo. I can't be that perfect  ------------------
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I'm so cappy
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posted July 16, 2014 09:20 AM
What's with this unconditional love crap everywhere? 
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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted July 16, 2014 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I do not like venus in virgo. I can't be that perfect
Lol trust, I don't like it either :/ IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted July 16, 2014 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by charlie:
Unconditional and Virgo doesn't ring correct in my ears...they do analyze the **** out of everything so how can that be unconditional? Also, nothing is unconditional. Not even dogs love their master unconditionally if treated badly for too long. I am just a Virgo Asc but my list of "conditions" is longer than the Eiffel Tower.
Yeah it doesn't sound right. But what I'm saying is that, wouldn't it make sense if this was a lesson to be learned for people who have Virgo placements (especially Venus)? I've read somewhere that planets in their fall are there to teach us a lesson throughout our lifetime. I think this theory makes a lot of sense because planets in the sign of their fall struggle to find expression for their energy. Plus, Virgo can be sacrificial like Pisces--choosing to serve others even at their own expense because by doing so, this sign finds happiness. That can be a sign of unconditional love.
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Leocassandra
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posted July 16, 2014 10:55 AM
Sometimes i think i'm capable of unconditional love...But then i see my crush/friends dressed ugly, and i know that i'm just not able to do it  IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted July 16, 2014 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by Leocassandra:
Sometimes i think i'm capable of unconditional love...But then i see my crush/friends dressed ugly, and i know that i'm just not able to do it
LOL ditto
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DeepFreeze
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posted July 16, 2014 12:16 PM
Firstly, NOTHING is perfect - possibly a lesson itself for Venus in VirgoSecondly, wanting unconditional love sounds like some Pisces/Neptunian crap. (I have all Venus in Virgo, Venus in 12th, Venus square Neptune) I don't know. I guess you know, an ex of mine had Venus at the same degree mine is. I broke up with her in a dramatic way, very very meanly, and I wasn't very nice for about a year. She kept wanting to talk and be friends and I wouldn't have it. With a little keeping in touch, 6 years later she wanted to get back together. In fact, she was here and told me flat out that she would just not go back to her country and stay here with me if I wanted. (She lived here, then moved to another country in those 6 years)
I said no.
Venus in the same sign, same degree. She did that, and I would never. I never have. If I'm done with a relationship, I'm done forever. So what's my point?
You have to look at everything. Venus is not the only planet that gets stimulated when in love or that shows love. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted July 16, 2014 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Firstly, NOTHING is perfect - possibly a lesson itself for Venus in VirgoSecondly, wanting unconditional love sounds like some Pisces/Neptunian crap. (I have all Venus in Virgo, Venus in 12th, Venus square Neptune)
So what's my point?
You have to look at everything. Venus is not the only planet that gets stimulated when in love or that shows love.
Hmm I have very little Neptunian influence in me. I got no aspects between my Venus or Neptune, nothing in the 12th house, and 0 Pisces placements either.. only thing I got is Pisces MC. A lot of Virgo though. I'm critical with people (I analyze everybody I meet), but if I feel comfortable around them, I could really care less about their appearance and perfection in them. Many of my friends are what people would consider outcasts to society. I still accept them the way they are and hate it when people talk sh*t about them. I don't ever try to change them and never will. Same goes with lovers.
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DeepFreeze
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posted July 16, 2014 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Hmm I have very little Neptunian influence in me. I got no aspects between my Venus or Neptune, nothing in the 12th house, and 0 Pisces placements either.. only thing I got is Pisces MC. A lot of Virgo though. I'm critical with people (I analyze everybody I meet), but if I feel comfortable around them, I could really care less about their appearance and perfection in them. Many of my friends are what people would consider outcasts to society. I still accept them the way they are and hate it when people talk sh*t about them. I don't ever try to change them and never will. Same goes with lovers.
Sorry if I came off rude or anything. Virgos along with many other signs get misunderstood or stereotyped.  IP: Logged |
MagnumJoe
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posted July 16, 2014 12:35 PM
Virgo and capricorn venuses, are capable of unconditional love, on certain conditions. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted July 16, 2014 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Sorry if I came off rude or anything. Virgos along with many other signs get misunderstood or stereotyped.
Are you intuitive? Lol bc that kinda did come off rude to me. Idk everyone just feels rude to me today. So it's okay. It's not just you  and yeah I do agree that a lot of signs get misunderstood. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted July 16, 2014 12:43 PM
You have to base it off of your whole chart. Your sun sign matters. Your moon sign matters. You mars and so on all matter. The aspects to that planet matter, what house it's in matter. We are capable of unconditional love. It's not all one sided like that. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted July 16, 2014 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Are you intuitive? Lol bc that kinda did come off rude to me. Idk everyone just feels rude to me today. So it's okay. It's not just you and yeah I do agree that a lot of signs get misunderstood.
I am normally.
But I just looked at it again and thought, "Oh that sounded kind of rude." I didn't mean to be. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted July 16, 2014 12:50 PM
I know that the whole chart should be taken into consideration. I'm just asking this question based on one placement because after all, Venus does represent how we love and how we attract love. I'm also trying to grasp this whole thing with karmic lessons and polarities. Like I said, I've read it somewhere before that planets in their signs of fall have to teach us some kind of lesson. With polarities, I'm also trying to learn the similarities between Virgo and Pisces. These two signs seem to me like they're opposites that have no common ground. They're just too different in my opinion.IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted July 16, 2014 12:54 PM
Depends on the individual, not the natal chart. Everyone has the potential, for Pisces Venus, it might be easy, for Virgo Venus it might be difficult. If Virgo Venus can love conditionally, then it is capable of loving unconditionally too, all it takes is a change of direction.IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted July 16, 2014 12:55 PM
^Isn't the individual their natal chart? LOL^^I understand that and get it. But it's not one sided like that. It's stereotyping when you base it off of just the sign. You look at what house it is in, the aspects and both the sun and moon sign. They add or take away from each other. You can't compare a Virgo with sun, moon and venus to a Leo with Gem moon and Virgo venus. They're similar but they're all different. All capable of unconditional love, like everyone else. You just have to learn more about yourself and own it. Some able to love easier than others, doesn't mean you aren't capable. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted July 16, 2014 01:08 PM
^ What you said is pretty true. I do but I don't act Virgo at all. It's like my dominant sign. We as humans are pretty complex and astrology gives more in-depth definition to that.IP: Logged |
7thGuardian
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posted July 16, 2014 01:10 PM
If you have it in you... it really doesn't matter what the chart says - even if you're an Ophiuchus, when/if the time comes - you'll be able to express it. At first - it won't be a matter of choice (it will overwhelm you), but with time - you'll manage to handle it better - by expressing it in the presence of people you might find worthy - or people who really need it - instead of wasting it on emotional vampires. Unconditional love - might be infinite in its nature (it's "unconditional" - thus, you don't expect nothing in return) - but your time here... is not. So, even though - you can't really waste that type of love - you can waste time with emotional leeches - who always want more... as they're incapable of sustaining their existence - through their own love - so they keep trying to suck/get it out of others (it's why they're called emotional "vampires").PS.If you were raised as a sheep - find the courage to become a Lion. IP: Logged |
PrettyVirgo
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posted July 16, 2014 01:10 PM
I have my venus in (pretty) virgo. It's pretty jacked up. It squares all my planets from jupiter to uranus. I experienced unconditional/sacrificial love last year. I couldn't live my life. It was (pretty) bad. I never experienced love like this before. And I don't think I ever will again. So yes, it can happen. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted July 16, 2014 01:12 PM
First you got to name me a Venus in Pisces who loves unconditionally, not just talks about it, does it. It's a myth about Venus in Pisces. I doubt any one truly does it.I cannot think of one person. That's like letting everyone into your home and sharing your personal things with them. People pretty much have conditions placed on who they love, usually superficial and shallow. We can say this principle applies to every single Venus. Unconditional love is a lovely sentiment but in reality, it's a big fat myth. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted July 16, 2014 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
First you got to name me a Venus in Pisces who loves unconditionally, not just talks about it, does it. It's a myth about Venus in Pisces. I doubt any one truly does it.I cannot think of one person. That's like letting everyone into your home and sharing your personal things with them. People pretty much have conditions placed on who they love, usually superficial and shallow. We can say this principle applies to every single Venus. Unconditional love is a lovely sentiment but in reality, it's a big fat myth.
And I personally just meant that Pisces is that kind of dreamy... thinking that it's possible.
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Twirl
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posted July 16, 2014 01:15 PM
I have that Venus placement. Unconditional til an extent
Ps: I did actually once write a piece on that (mars is conjunct) & the outcome was that to love unconditionally you have to love yourself that way. Meaning that even if you feel that love for another & act on it, there's always a time you will put yourself first, leaving the other not feel loved unconditionally cause there are consequences to it (like leaving the other be). IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted July 16, 2014 01:45 PM
Unconditional love does not mean letting people take advantage of you while you keep on loving them, that’s masochism in my eyes. You have to love yourself unconditionally first. If you love yourself, then you certainly won’t let people take advantage of you.IP: Logged |
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