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Selenite
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posted July 20, 2014 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer...

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posted July 20, 2014 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
Cancer...

Hmmmmmmmm..... I could see that I guess.

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posted July 20, 2014 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:

I just realized Howard Hughes has many Pallas aspects which has to do with pattern recognition among other things.

His moon conjuncts mercury and his mother had OCD.

He has Pallas:

-Semisquare sun

-sextile Moon, Mercury, Venus and in turn pluto opposes moon, mercury, and venus (this can explain the OCD).

-Pallas trine pluto

-Pallas opposite NN

-Pallas sextile vertex exact approaching.


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A client of mine that has OCD has Pallas:
Trine Sun
Trine Mercury
Square Venus
Biquintile Mars
Sesquisquare Uranus
Square Neptune
Conjunct NN
Trine Vertex



This is a very interesting and potentially very important finding, Amelia. Pallas and OCD - definitely a connection!

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posted July 20, 2014 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He also has mercury, jupiter, pluto and Neptune all retrograde.

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posted July 20, 2014 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

This is a very interesting and potentially very important finding, Amelia. Pallas and OCD - definitely a connection!



I have Pallas in Virgo and I have minor OCD (minor as in not as bad as some people that you think of that have debilitating OCD, but mine is bad enough).

But then again, I am a Virgo Sun... it's sort of already in our nature, lol.

My Pallas is in the 2nd House square Jupiter, trine MC and sesquisquare Uranus.

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posted July 20, 2014 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I have Pallas in Virgo and I have minor OCD (minor as in not as bad as some people that you think of that have debilitating OCD, but mine is bad enough).

But then again, I am a Virgo Sun... it's sort of already in our nature, lol.


Woody allen has OCD he has said, article reads:

Woody Allen is an obsessive compulsive - and performs the same breakfast ritual every morning. The Hollywood legend has prepared the same breakfast in the same way every day for more than 50 years - and is too scared to break the habit in case it brings him bad luck. The funnyman said: "For breakfast I have freshly squeezed orange juice, followed by a bowl of Cheerios with skimmed milk and raisins. And I always have a sliced banana on top. "This is going to sound silly, given that I am a complete rationalist with no religious belief whatsoever. But I always cut my morning banana into seven slices. It's my only superstition. I've always done it - ever since I was a child - and now I'm afraid not to in case something terrible happens and I upset the delicate balance of the universe." The 69-year-old director says his obsessive behaviour extends into every aspect of his life.

The Oscar-winning star admitted that his wife, Soon-Yi, struggles to live with his bizarre compulsions - which make it difficult for him to act spontaneously.

He added in an interview with Britain's Sunday Telegraph newspaper: "My wife does complain about how routine I can be. If it was up to me I would always do everything exactly the same way."

LOL

Read more: http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/Woody+Allen-3295.html#ixzz382Qfyzh7


I dont know how severe his OCD is but with Howard it was severe...


I checked his pallas and it is in libra trine exact approaching chiron in gemini in the 10th.

His Neptune in Virgo in the first square his Chiron by 3 orbs.

His pallas conjuncts widely his venus in libra by about 9 orbs.


He has saturn in pisces in the 7th squaring his sun/mercury/jupiter in the 4th....

So ruler of saturn is neptune in virgo in the first.


His fixed moon in aquarius in the 6th trines his venus in libra.

His pluto squares venus and trines mercury.

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posted July 20, 2014 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
Cancer...

You know in the first picture when he is young, he does have a cancer vibe..

Second pic not so much nor the third.

A cancer AC would put his stellium in the 6th house and pluto and neptune in the 12th (Michael Jackson has a stellium in the 6th).

Saturn conjunct mars would be in the 9th house but saturn would rule his DC, jupiter would be in the 11th...

Pluto would rule the fifth house and would land in the 12th house.

NN conjunct Juno would be in the second with chiron and pallas in the 8th.

His MC would be in pisces at 27 degrees.

The ruler of his IC would be mercury which lands in his 6th...

He doesnt look cancer in the 2nd and third pics but he is older in those and by then progressed AC would have moved to Leo. For example he would have Progressed AC in 1946 in leo at 15 degrees.

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This would mean that at the time of his death T neptune was transiting his 6th house and T pluto was transiting his 4th..its possible he become fully reclusive when pluto hit his IC.

I think I am changing to him having cancer rising maybe..I am conflicted between cancer rising or leo rising now.

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posted July 20, 2014 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, my OCD isn't as bad as Woody Allen's, thank goodness.

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posted July 20, 2014 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Cancer ASC,perhaps


It does make sense.

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posted July 20, 2014 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, my OCD isn't as bad as Woody Allen's, thank goodness.

Lol...I wish I had mild ocd.

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posted July 20, 2014 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Woody allen has OCD he has said, article reads:

Woody Allen is an obsessive compulsive - and performs the same breakfast ritual every morning. The Hollywood legend has prepared the same breakfast in the same way every day for more than 50 years - and is too scared to break the habit in case it brings him bad luck. The funnyman said: "For breakfast I have freshly squeezed orange juice, followed by a bowl of Cheerios with skimmed milk and raisins. And I always have a sliced banana on top. "This is going to sound silly, given that I am a complete rationalist with no religious belief whatsoever. But I always cut my morning banana into seven slices. It's my only superstition. I've always done it - ever since I was a child - and now I'm afraid not to in case something terrible happens and I upset the delicate balance of the universe." The 69-year-old director says his obsessive behaviour extends into every aspect of his life.

The Oscar-winning star admitted that his wife, Soon-Yi, struggles to live with his bizarre compulsions - which make it difficult for him to act spontaneously.

He added in an interview with Britain's Sunday Telegraph newspaper: "My wife does complain about how routine I can be. If it was up to me I would always do everything exactly the same way."

LOL

Read more: http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/Woody+Allen-3295.html#ixzz382Qfyzh7


I dont know how severe his OCD is but with Howard it was severe...


I checked his pallas and it is in libra trine exact approaching chiron in gemini in the 10th.

His Neptune in Virgo in the first square his Chiron by 3 orbs.

His pallas conjuncts widely his venus in libra by about 9 orbs.


He has saturn in pisces in the 7th squaring his sun/mercury/jupiter in the 4th....

So ruler of saturn is neptune in virgo in the first.


His fixed moon in aquarius in the 6th trines his venus in libra.

His pluto squares venus and trines mercury.



That's your combo with pedophilia, not Howard

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posted July 20, 2014 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Lol...I wish I had mild ocd.

Yeah, I feel you.
Hopefully it will get better. Mine got a bit better over time with some things, and worse with others. But perhaps overall, yours will get better over time as well

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posted July 20, 2014 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, I feel you.
Hopefully it will get better. Mine got a bit better over time with some things, and worse with others. But perhaps overall, yours will get better over time as well

LMAO...I dont have OCD.......I just think there must be some benefits to having it Mildly..like the house loooking spotless all the time.

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posted July 20, 2014 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LMAO...I dont have OCD.......I just think there must be some benefits to having it Mildly..like the house loooking spotless all the time.

I am an earth void. I am the opposite of OCD. I can live like a pig and not notice

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posted July 20, 2014 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's one lady I know of that is Ocd. It's not cool.
She keeps styrofoam cups and all kinds of crap. Her pictures are hung on her wall in a straight line. One Day she had some little things, I forget what. She lined them up in rows all over couch cushions and chairs in the lounge area of this place.
She saves newspapers and puts them in order. She won't eat any food that is given to her because it's a "gift". So she leaves it until it spoils.
She has to have people come in every so often to make sure she's Ok.

She'll put loaves of bread behind doors until they turn green and all kinds of weird crap.

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posted July 20, 2014 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

That's your combo with pedophilia, not Howard

They both dated teenagers and neither were attracted to children but both were attracted to teenagers yes; Howard was pursuing Elizabeth Tayler when she was 17 years old and he was 30 years older than her when he pursued her (check a previous response where I scanned a page from a book that mentions this). Not all were teenagers, many were in their 20s.

In the movie it shows he dated a 15 year old. I found the following online:

"* Yvonne Shubert - She was just 15 and Hughes was 50 when they had an affair. She gave Jean Peters her toughest competition. Pursued and intermittent singing career;"

"* Faith Domergue- actress and long time Mistress of Hughes as a teenager until she was 20;"

"* Elizabeth Taylor- Hughes got smitten by Elizabeth and offered $ 1 Million if she will marry him.But she refused;"

http://hrhughesjr.webs.com/thewomeninhislife.htm

Women of Significance in Howard Hughes's Life

(This is just a partial list)

* Phyllis Applegate- Singer, dancer and opthalmologist;

* Carla Balenda - starlet (Hughes's discovery);

* Phyllis Brooks - actress;

* Nancy Carroll - actress of the 30s;

* Cyd Charisse- dancer, actress;

* Sallilee Conlon- cover girl, tv news star;

* Joan Crawford - Oscar winning actress;

* Linda Darnell - actress;

* Bette Davis- Oscar winning actress;

* Yvonne de Carlo -sexy actress;

* Olivia de Havilland -Oscar winning dramatic actress and star;

* Faith Domergue- actress and long time Mistress of Hughes as a teenager until she was 20;

* Billie Dove- The "most beautiful girl" in Ziegfeld Follies history. She was engaged to Hughes but they were never married. She was the first great love of Howard Hughes, jr.;

* Joan Fontaine - actress and sister of Olivia de Havilland;

* Brenda Frazier -"The Debutante of the Century"

* Ava Gardner - sultry , fiery and temperamental and beautiful actress;

* Kathryn Grayson - classical opera singer and actress.She almost married Hughes as the latter proposed to her 3 times.

* Jane Greer - actress of the 40s ;

* Jean Harlow- blonde bombshell actress and Hughes's female lead in Hell 's Angels whom he catapulted to stardom;

* Susan Hayward- award winning dramatic actress;

* Rita Hayworth- sexy siren of the 40s;

* Katharine Hepburn - talented actress, a great golfer who shares Hughes's love for flying, 4 time Oscar winner.She was one of the great loves of Hughes and he kept her love letters until he died.

* Barbara Hutton - Woolworth Heiress and one of the richest women of her times.Known as the "Poor little rich girl"

* Zizi Jeanmaire - ballet dancer;

* Dorothy Jordan - MGM star of the 30s briefly engaged to Hughes;

* Timmie Lansing - New York debutante;

* Janet Leigh - actress whom Hughes pursued but never won;

* Gina Lollobrigida- sultry and fiery Italian actress;

* Ida Lupino - actress and one of the first women film director (thanks to Hughes);

* Marian Marsh - dramatic actress;

* Virginia Mayo - Blonde bombshell actress;

* Marilyn Monroe- a sex symbol of her time, an actress with comedic
flair.She caught Hughes's attention but there wasn't any serious affair;

* Terry Moore- called the "perpetual starlet".She claimed to have been married to Hughes and received a settlement from his estate;

*JEAN PETERS - homespun but gorgeous film star.She married Hughes in 1957 and stayed on for 11 years.She loved him truly but the marriage didnt work;

* ELLA RICE - The first Mrs.Hughes and also a wealthy woman in her own right.They divorced after 4 years of unhappy marriage due to Hughes's philandering ways and insensitivity;

* Ginger Rogers- singer, dancer, actress.Hughes wept when she left;

* Jane Russel - actress whose breasts Hughes got fixated on.There was no real affair between the 2 as Hughes was not Ms.Russel's type but she credits the latter for her stardom;

* Yvonne Shubert - She was just 15 and Hughes was 50 when they had an affair. She gave Jean Peters her toughest competition.Pursued and intermittent singing career;

* Jean Simmons- actress. Hughes bought her contract but didnt use her as an actress much.She filed a lawsuit against him;

* Elizabeth Taylor- Hughes got smitten by Elizabeth and offered $ 1 Million if she will marry him.But she refused;

* Joyce Taylor - singer and actress;

* Gene Tierney - actress.Hughes provided medical attention he provided for her mentally retarded daughter;

* Lana Turner - controversial ,sexy ,blonde actress;

* Gloria Vanderbilt- rich debutant from one of Amercan's most famous families.

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posted July 20, 2014 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 20, 2014 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
LMAO...I dont have OCD.......I just think there must be some benefits to having it Mildly..like the house loooking spotless all the time.

Oh, haha.

Yeah, that would be one of the positives of it

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posted April 18, 2015 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HRH-FishAreFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by geminigal2805:
Wasnt there a confusion regarding his Date of birth?

Screen shot of pg. 881 of Linda Goodman's Love Signs...

Wikipedia:

Allene Hughes died in March 1922 from complications of an ectopic pregnancy. Howard Hughes, Sr., died of a heart attack in 1924. Their deaths apparently inspired Hughes to include the creation of a medical research laboratory in his will that he signed in 1925 at age 19. Because Howard Sr.'s will had not been updated since Allene's death, Hughes inherited 75 percent of the family fortune. On his 19th birthday, Hughes was declared an emancipated minor, enabling him to take full control of his legacy...


(http://support81.org/image/?page=9)


The Age of Majority in the United States is 18...(except for Alabama (19), Nebraska (19 or upon marriage), Puerto Rico (21) and Mississippi (21))

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_majority


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posted April 18, 2015 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't read the whole thread, but I got LIBRA, SCORPIO and SAG.

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posted April 18, 2015 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HRH-FishAreFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad died when I was a teenager. I got sick of paying my bills with money orders and wanted a bank account to write checks, however I was still a minor (and often hiding from nosy social workers). I eventually found a way to falsify my year of birth from '73 to '70 to open a bank account and in general attend to the business of daily living.

I imagine it would have been even easier for H.H. to falsify his vital statistics in the 1920's, than it was for me in the late 80's.

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posted April 19, 2015 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AngaCrowley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see Air. Im also guessing Aquarius, or another air sign. Gemini or possibly libra, in that order. Im a Leo asc, also have a stellium in 5th. I can see the 5h stellium, would explain lots, but I just dont see the leo asc others seem to, at all. Also putting him with a cap sun and scorp moon (jan bday). I have cap sun and sag moon, as well; I dont see the sag moon. I think this guy was mostly water and air, with some earth. I am very intrigued by him and his life, and itd be cool to think our charts are so similar, i just dont feel it, ya know? One gripe, in that i am a bit disturbed by how loosely the word pedaphilia is being thrown around. Ive never heard this about him, and while that doesnt make me disbelieve it, per se, some proof would certainly be appreciated before we start picking apart his chart as though it were common knowledge. One more, though its merely semantic. Dating 15-17 yr olds at 30 is not pedaphilia. There are several categories of chronophilia; it sounds like ephebophilia in this case. Possibly hebephilia if the rumours regarding 12 yr olds are not exaggerated & he tended toward prepubescent. Anyway, all that would give him chiron in aqua in the 12th conj his aqua asc, as well as putting his cap sun in the 12th. Moon and mars conj in 9h scorp. Lots of opposition energy going on with his fifth.

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