posted July 23, 2014 10:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Comatoes:
Pluto destroys everything it touches and re-builds. I think Pluto will destroy in some ways everything that humans rely on or think they need. It will teach us to be more self-sufficient just like an Aquarius, that we need to rely on ourselves and not the stupid Government.

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posted July 23, 2014 10:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:

But you have to remember that the U.S. chart is always going to have its Sun/Saturn square. Its very system is built upon warring parties which consistently work to destabilize the health of the nation. That will never change unless there is a revised constitution which will give a new chart.The system as it stands has not worked and will never no matter who is in office, nor who has the most money, based on that square alone. The country does not work for its people. It talks a big game but falls short in so many areas in terms of being a country in the western world. That is the main argument that is growing from my pov.

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Wohooooo! You go girl!

And as for the capricorn pluto return it goes with my previous comment I made about the american revolution starting when Pluto was in capricorn at late degrees I further made the observation that when it entered to 0 degrees aquarius it become a world war in 1778.

I brought up war but IDK if the revolution will involve a war this time as the government has too much power military wise so the people are better off resisting in other ways that will lead to the system breaking down/collapsing and having to be rebuilt and hopefully a new constitution and way of operating all together will come from it that is not centralized.

posted July 23, 2014 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Leocassandra:
US is not the whole world:P The EU could go down...

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posted July 23, 2014 10:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Leocassandra:
US is not the whole world:P The EU could go down...

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posted July 23, 2014 10:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Queen Salome:
Another possibility: China taking over as world's first superpower.
Chinese people (generally) are Libras.
People's Republic of China has Libra Sun, Aquarius ASC & Moon
http://www.astrologychart.eu/mundane/china/china-peoples-republic.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/countries/china.php

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well yeah the US has become a service economy and China produces produces and produces..

China been at the top I feel is already happening..

posted July 23, 2014 10:40 AM            

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Originally posted by darksoul18:
This is a very interesting thread. I picture something like in the form of Star Wars in the future maybe? My imagination just jolted. We are headed into the age of Aquarius by the way. Not necessarily objectively but definitely subjectively. I've also pondered what comes after the Aquarius age? You want to talk about a scary thought..... now that's a scary thought. What is more advanced than traveling the universe itself? Hmmm..... I haven't a single clue. History has shown that war is inevitable. Perhaps we will be battling little green dinosaurs in the future... but, you know who knows? Right? I think it is time for me to shut up now..... okay. (but I don't want to shut up)..... shut up.... okay.

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posted July 24, 2014 01:13 PM            

Aquarius rules technology, innovation, invention, scientific progress, humanitarianism, rebellion, equality, things on a larger scale (i.e. corporations, communities, governments, cities). Pluto is definitely a heavy hitting planet; ruling things like rebirth, evolution, secrecy, power, obsession, decay, regeneration, etc. With these two in combination we could see more advance technology being implemented for warfare, war through information/technology, scientific advances especially in terms of death, renewable power, and trans-mutating waste into other various things. But we should keep in mind that the other outer planets will be in very favorable positions. Neptune will be right at the start of Aries, forming a sextile. And Uranus in Gemini forming a trine to Pluto and sextile to Neptune. So if we want to get a clearer picture on what Pluto in Aquarius means we must consider the entire configuration as a whole (or at least include Aquarius' ruler position i.e. Uranus in Gemini).

Not only is Aquarius being highlighted but so is its ruler, Uranus in Gemini, which is very much about revolutionizing information, technology, social media. With the two hand-in-hand it could result in an explosion in scientific research, crowd-funding projects, or possibly simply the inclusion of more science in pop-culture and media. Uranus, in my mind, rules what is seen as popular, whats hip and new, so anything brought up by Pluto in Aqua is sure to make headlines and circulate through social medias.

posted July 28, 2014 08:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Celestica:

Jupiter and Saturn will also be experiencing a conjunction at 0 degrees Aquarius, which will mark the move of their conjunction cycle from earth signs (im pretty sure) into air signs. So Aquarius is definitely being highlighted, italicized, and underlined this next decade.

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Wooohooo.

posted September 28, 2014 10:59 PM            

On another note, I know that I am not looking forward to it. I have Mercury in Taurus at 1 degree. And before that happens, my 24 degree Cancer moon will be taking a wallop....and I think my transits right now are horrifically scary.

posted September 30, 2014 05:38 AM            

That being said, I think Aquarian energy is overly obnoxious, and very passive aggressively (indirect) tries to gain fame through groups/community (heavily collectivists) and often times, is deceptive (in denial that they as individuals should change but the world needs to change) and just pushy. But they will NEVER admit that, simply because that energy lacks individual awareness. I personally think Aquarius give Air a really BAD reputation.

That being said, what would I think Pluto in Aquarius will be like? Well, I don't think anyone and everyone should be able to get married. I don't think anything and everything in life should ever be like a free for all buffet. I cannot stand boundaries/standards/structures being broken and replaced with vague/loose morality to accommodate people's pitfalls, which seems to be what Aquarian energy loves advocating. If anything, I think there needs to be MORE boundaries, limitations, structure, and most of all, consequence thrown at people so they'd learn to stop being weak, whiny, self-entitled brats (like how the majority of people are now).
I believe in a LOT of hard work and I believe in building inner strength and independence from groups, and group mentality go counter to my highly individualistic stance.

posted September 30, 2014 11:32 AM            

We see uranus and aquarius energy very differently. Uranus brings paradigms shifts forth and breaks down structures that need to be broken bc they are toxic and not working. The current system is not working; its an illusion of freedom and a more sophisticated form of the royalty paradigm that gives people the impression they have control and a say on things or a choice (e.g. here you can chose between coke and pepsi, you are free to obey).

I feel Uranus reminds us that if you sacrifice security for freedom you will lose both and that security is an illusion. I don't see aquarius as collectivistic personally; I feel uranus reminds us that rights start at an individual level. I see neptune as more collectivistic personally. Two consenting adults should be able to get married if they want. Marriage licenses started in the first place to give BLACK people permission to marry white people. IMO marriage licenses should not exist although I dont think pluto in aquarius will result in more people getting married; if anything it will result in less people getting married and in more people rejecting the institution of marriage all together.

I dont think aquarius gives air signs a bad name at all; my two favorite air signs are libra and aquarius.

posted September 30, 2014 07:16 PM            

Though just to be clear, I don't see the Age of Aquarius as either a good or bad thing, just one that changes the rules with both good and evil and countless shades of gray in it (like any other age). I envision the Aquarian age as essentially cyberpunk, which does include police state aspects filled with a brainwashed population, but not that different today save cosmetically. If anything I believe the "Invisibles" (those who live off the Grid) will be far more able to adapt and exploit the state than they are today, but that it will be almost impossible for someone born into the system to divorce themselves from it unless they get help from those already outside of it, but those outside of it will find it child's play to stay outside of it and will shake their heads at all the sheep wrapped up in their illusory cocoons who are but expendable clogs in the machine and the automation they take for granted their greatest vulnerability that will cause crime to become somewhat surreal (when one subverts the very home and office itself to aid & abet the criminals & invisibles that know how to exploit it) from our point of view.

posted September 30, 2014 09:41 PM            

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That is what I am hoping for.

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Ditto. I would personally love another Carrington Event.

While I am sure I would miss this forum, I think we (as a society) need to disconnect and get back to LIVING OUTSIDE.

posted September 30, 2014 10:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
Ditto. I would personally love another Carrington Event.

While I am sure I would miss this forum, I think we (as a society) need to disconnect and get back to LIVING OUTSIDE.

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posted September 30, 2014 10:49 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I wonder if you're aware of how such an event would likely affect utilities (including nuclear power plants) as well as emergency services? If not then you should beware what you wish for.

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Yes, I am. I can imagine that after the dust settles, it would be my utopia. If I make it, of course.

posted September 30, 2014 10:50 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Many people are going to start being vegetarian and the meat industry will collapse. Thats the most important thing i see happening.

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Dear God I hope so. You see this?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/moby/moby-meat_b_5889850.html

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"To put it in perspective: animal agriculture is responsible for producing more climate change gases than every car, boat, bus, truck, motorcycle and airplane on the planet. Combined."

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It is lengthy, but a damn good read.

posted October 02, 2014 07:10 AM            

You know like world hunger, war, murder, rape, abuse, sex trafficking, slavery which is at its highest right now,human trafficking, domestic voiolence, pedaphilia, to name a few...

posted October 02, 2014 10:50 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
We have much bigger problems than the personal preference and luxury of eating just vegetables and the demonization of eating meat which does not lead to global warming.

You know like world hunger, war, murder, rape, abuse, sex trafficking, slavery which is at its highest right now,human trafficking, domestic voiolence, pedaphilia, to name a few...

And BTW there are plenty of lies and deception and myths revolving around global warming: http://www.climatedepot.com

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"personal preference and luxury of eating just vegetables and the demonization of eating meat "

No, you have it wrong.

#1 - It's not a personal preference to eat meat, for one. It's encroaching on the rights of another living being. It is FAR from a personal choice. Your choice kills.

I am not demonizing your choice, I am telling the truth. Sorry if the truth sucks.

#2 - Vegetables are cheaper than meat. How the hell do you think it's a luxury to eat them?

I am always VERY confused by this claim by carnists that eating rice, vegetables and beans costs more money than a meat & dairy based diet.

#3 - You should read the article I posted. World hunger is caused by animal agriculture.