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Topic: Why do capricorns get hated on the most?
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NeptunianSag Knowflake Posts: 1060 From: Your imagination Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 06:16 AM
Every cap i have known and met, they always have trouble with other people, usually it's other people starting a drama. I know every sign gets hated on for something, but why do I notice it's always the capricorns that get all the trouble? Is it the coldness and seriousness that turns people away? IP: Logged |
jupitersgirl Knowflake Posts: 345 From: Registered: Oct 2009
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posted July 21, 2014 06:36 AM
Coldness I think. They are not cold inside but they can't express their feelings properly. ( I am generalizing here, ofcourse every chart differs and alters things)They usually choose not to express their feelings. For example mercury in cap people usually do not like to talk. That can make them appear rather cold and frustrating for people like me (mercury in sag). I have seen some cap asc people acting very fake to others (esp. people they just met) even if they are not fake at all. They just seem like that. I have seen cap suns being too focused on their career and what they have to do to succeed, they may ignore other people's feelings or needs. These are just some of my observations...IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 1906 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 06:56 AM
Rofl I have my fair share of people whom I dislike, they feel the same about me. But nah I wouldn't call it hate. I find it funny when some people "think" that they're being hated on by others. That's taking it too far imo, people annoy each other all the time.I don't often run into troubles with people. Well not more than the average person I guess. Most of the troubles are from the workplaces. Meh. I'm not serious or cold. I can be dismissive though. During conflicts, that kind of attitude makes it worse. Like a few days ago, this person was saying that she didn't like the way I did certain things and that I should change. I didn't agree so I told her that she should pay me and I'd fulfil her request. Not a good way to handle things, but I like it. On the second thought, I think I understand the "cold" thing. I like people but don't put a lot of effort into making or maintaining social friendship/relationship. Most of the time it requires too much of my time and eventually it becomes a liability. So yeah I act appropriately n smile n keep the conversations going n say the right things, but I give out the don't-want-2-be-bff signals. IP: Logged |
m.blade Knowflake Posts: 801 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 07:12 AM
I noticed this once between two teachers. One had cancer sun, one was a Capricorn sun.I was staying after school to complete some unfinished work. The cap sun walked in and just had a little chat wit one of the teachers about one of their students. When the cap sun left, the cancer sun was talking about how they really disliked the way the Capricorn sun dealt with students and with how cold he was. The contrast was funny though, the cancer was a literature teacher whereas the cap sun was a science teacher. Most of the students in my class tend to dislike the cap sun teacher, particularly the people who have aries sun. The earth, aqua and some of the water suns tended to like him however, I liked him but he could be harsh in his approach but still I respected that. He's very proud of himself and what he does as a career. very proud of his achievements and never misses an opportunity to show how good his work is. It seems boastful but you just got the feeling it wasn't... Students rarely got into an argument with him but when they did it was heated. IP: Logged |
m.blade Knowflake Posts: 801 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 07:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by m.blade: I noticed this once between two teachers. One had cancer sun, one was a Capricorn sun.I was staying after school to complete some unfinished work. The cap sun walked in and just had a little chat wit one of the teachers about one of their students. When the cap sun left, the cancer sun was talking about how they really disliked the way the Capricorn sun dealt with students and how cold he was with them no matter how they were feeling The contrast was funny though, the cancer was a literature teacher whereas the cap sun was a science teacher. Most of the students in my class tend to dislike the cap sun teacher, particularly the people who have aries sun. The earth, aqua and some of the water suns tended to like him however, I liked him but he could be harsh in his approach but still I respected that. He's very proud of himself and what he does as a career. very proud of his achievements and never misses an opportunity to show how good his work is. It seems boastful but you just got the feeling it wasn't... Students rarely got into an argument with him but when they did it was heated.
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12muddy Knowflake Posts: 1906 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 07:20 AM
^ I assume that cancer sun teacher was talking about the cap teacher to other teachers ? meh if it is so, I dislike that attitude already. That's one of the main reasons why I don't like to get close to people at work. Like if you have a problem with anything or anyone, talk to the person, or alert the higher authority, or go home n talk to friends/loved ones. Talking about co-workers to other co-workers is just unprofessional. IP: Logged |
m.blade Knowflake Posts: 801 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 07:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by 12muddy: ^ I assume that cancer sun teacher was talking about the cap teacher to other teachers ? meh if it is so, I dislike that attitude already. That's one of the main reasons why I don't like to get close to people at work. Like if you have a problem with anything or anyone, talk to the person, or alert the higher authority, or go home n talk to friends/loved ones. Talking about co-workers to other co-workers is just unprofessional.
Yeah. She was talking to her colleague in her department about how his attitude towards the children and how she felt it was much too harsh. I also have my dads sun directly opposite my sun. We argue about ALOT of things, he can always find things in my basic manner he dislikes and vice versa. He has that capricorn humour that I hear alot about. I find it funny but that might be attributed to my Mercury square Saturn. But yeah Capricorn suns I can deal with and I tend to get along with despite all the differences. I don't have any experiences with any other Capricorn placements I think.. IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 1906 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 07:32 AM
Oh ... she was concerned for the students.I kinda get her concern. Especially if the students are still "children", a gentle hand/kind attitude is always better. I had harsh teachers when I was little and I hated school because of them hah. Your dad's sun opposes yours? Sounds rough. Can't imagine how that would feel. My parents suns don't make any aspect to mine and even so I feel that they kill my vibes lol. IP: Logged |
m.blade Knowflake Posts: 801 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 07:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by 12muddy: Oh ... she was concerned for the students.I kinda get her concern. Especially if the students are still "children", a gentle hand/kind attitude is always better. I had harsh teachers when I was little and I hated school because of them hah. Your dad's sun opposes yours? Sounds rough. Can't imagine how that would feel. My parents suns don't make any aspect to mine and even so I feel that they kill my vibes lol.
Yeah, me and my dad argue about a lot of things. (His mars also opposes my sun but I reckon it's a bit wide). Usually it's just the little things. Our moons are in fire signs though and his moon in sag is trine my Mercury in leo so we are able to talk about this stuff. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 2127 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Jun 2012
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posted July 21, 2014 08:28 AM
We are cold, calculating work-machines that don't like when emotional people try to slow us down. Time IS money, folks!! Chop chop!! Also, why would I show my deepest emotions to someone that will only talk behind my back anyway...Logic Fail.I am kidding. But not to 100%. I am also not a Capricorn Sun. IP: Logged |
MagnumJoe Knowflake Posts: 283 From: Cairo, Egypt Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 21, 2014 10:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by NeptunianSag: Every cap i have known and met, they always have trouble with other people, usually it's other people starting a drama. I know every sign gets hated on for something, but why do I notice it's always the capricorns that get all the trouble? Is it the coldness and seriousness that turns people away?
Hmmm.... I think the problem is not only in how people perceive cap, it's in how cap perceives people too. Caps sometimes tend to be a bit grudgy. This will make them talk a little bit about problem with people. I am a cap. I tend to receive criticism regarding my friends. I am open and funny, but when it comes to relating to someone on deep level, i amclosed. So i don't really talk on phone a lot, and don't regularly check on my friends. So, as a result, because of my openness, people think i am open with everyone except them So i get the "Why don't you ever call me? Are you upset with me? Do you hate me?" Question. And the answer is "I actually don't call anyone, don't worry, you are all equally treated." Lol. And it recently started to stirr some troubles. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 7786 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 21, 2014 11:24 AM
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LittleWing Knowflake Posts: 318 From: Registered: Oct 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 12:19 PM
I dunno.. from purely on experience withmany..the ones I have been friends with have had a few water placements so they weren't as cold but i am not friends wih them anymore bc i realzed they only contacted me when they needed me- boyfriend dumped them, other friends out of town, etc. i know one with every personal planet in cap and a mars in scorp and she is ice. She cares only about getting ahead. She moved to a new city and one week in she told me she saw a rich hot guy with connections with a long term gf that she seduced the night she met him. Then she became the gf.She bragged about everything he was giving her. Very clingy. Very jealous. Apathetic of everyone who can't get her ahead. Then he cheated on her and she fell apart. I think when they are in relationships, they become extremely dependent- more like cancer, their opposite, but without the genuine compassion of cancers.These are just my experiences with a few cap women. IP: Logged |
babybull82 Knowflake Posts: 275 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 12:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by 12muddy: Rofl I have my fair share of people whom I dislike, they feel the same about me. But nah I wouldn't call it hate. I find it funny when some people "think" that they're being hated on by others. That's taking it too far imo, people annoy each other all the time.I don't often run into troubles with people. Well not more than the average person I guess. Most of the troubles are from the workplaces. Meh. I'm not serious or cold. I can be dismissive though. During conflicts, that kind of attitude makes it worse. Like a few days ago, this person was saying that she didn't like the way I did certain things and that I should change. I didn't agree so I told her that she should pay me and I'd fulfil her request. Not a good way to handle things, but I like it. On the second thought, I think I understand the "cold" thing. I like people but don't put a lot of effort into making or maintaining social friendship/relationship. Most of the time it requires too much of my time and eventually it becomes a liability. So yeah I act appropriately n smile n keep the conversations going n say the right things, but I give out the don't-want-2-be-bff signals.
Why be fake?
Seems like a waste of time and energy to me..oh I know why though because you may need to go back and use them later.
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Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 4294 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 12:30 PM
^ Obviously the whole chart should be taken into consideration but generally speaking it's the aloofness. Acting as if their s hit doesn't stink. The sarcasm that isn't funny. The ice queen attitudes. The stubborness and fakeness. "Hate" is a strong word, are you talking about other people being jealous of Capricorns? I don't think that's it, I think it's just all that I mentioned and people being turned off by it and either telling them off or being annoyed by it and ignoring them in an obvious way or whatever else people do I dunno. My sister in law is a Cap with Libra moon(like me ) and she is the greatest person ever, ditzy as all hell but just an amazing person. @LittleWing I agree a lot with what you said. Especially how you compared them to Cancer minus the genuine compassion. IP: Logged |
florence Knowflake Posts: 321 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted July 21, 2014 12:38 PM
Someone I know who is a cap sun is the most likeable person I've ever met .. She's funny, people always tell her problems, she's magnetic .. I really wish I was like her. She does have moon-Venus trine & possibly cancer asc thoIP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 2539 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 12:58 PM
Depends on the rest of the chart but usually I'm just like, Are you human? Is that supposed to be funny? Because it's not. It's dumb and you just put me down. IP: Logged |
fishbull11 Knowflake Posts: 127 From: depths Registered: May 2014
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posted July 21, 2014 02:05 PM
I don't know for sure but I have read they tend to take others down with the ship but on the other hand maybe they take others up when things are going good? Of course it is all relative and based on the whole chart but I have read they can tend to drag others down with them and project onto others, kind of I'm having a ****** day and have the ability to make others feel the same way which I know I would resent. Haven't really seen this first hand, just some things I have read in the past, and being that they are quite leaders in the workplace this would probably ring more true than a background subordinate type of personality.IP: Logged |
BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 812 From: Pseudo-Leo with a 1st House Stellium Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 02:13 PM
Whats with all the Cap hate up in here? One of the most misunderstood signs.I'm not a Cap Sun, but with chart ruler as Saturn and a major Cap stellium I might as well be one. I actually have a really good reputation with people, friendly and caring, and definitely don't use people, so I'm side eyeing the hell out of you babybull for that comment. In fact, the undergrads have started talking about how good of an instructor I am and how 'cool,' 'likeable,' 'helpful,' etc. I am. Good reputation with peers and bosses as well. The only thing I will admit to is being very stubborn The rest does not fit me. Trust me, if my ship is going down, I am going to do my best to save everyone, not pull a Titanic 2.0. IP: Logged |
arcturiann Knowflake Posts: 417 From: Titan Registered: Jun 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 02:26 PM
I'm a cap ascendant, and I'm pretty well aware that I can come off arrogant or selfish. I think the stereotypes apply easier to a cap ascendant since it's the first impression.I've seen "I use" as the phrase to describe caps, it may seem like we are always trying to get ahead in life, I know that I come off as if i'm cheap as well like I don't want to share any of my success or money. It can be hard trying to relate to cap people unless you are also a workaholic at times since they don't really like to talk about personal touchy feely things too much in my experience. They aren't often the types to want to just hang out for the sake of hanging out, it has to be either convenient or constructive in some way or else its a waste of time/money. Having a lot of cap influence can also make you feel like you've had to work HARD, SUFFER, and had to discipline yourself to get anywhere in life. So when other people complain, cry, or act silly/stupid, it makes us want to look down on them. "Nobody helped me to get to where I am, why should I help them?" Cancer is nurturing, Capricorn is cutthroat. IP: Logged |
sword lily Knowflake Posts: 26 From: майна си райна ;] Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 02:29 PM
yeah, it's weird how capricorn people (not just suns) get hated for being "boring" and "conservative" "users" while some other earth signs get praised and adored for it.ps. also cynical, wtf... IP: Logged |
MagnumJoe Knowflake Posts: 283 From: Cairo, Egypt Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 21, 2014 02:31 PM
^^^ To Bella: Not hating, i am cap sun myself, and i am being objective I know i am.. Well not cold, but sometimes distant. Or in fact all the time distant. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 2539 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 02:32 PM
Well, it depends on the chart. It's too bad to see these generalizations but they happen. I had a Cap friend. We were friends but it was always a struggle for me to feel a connection to him. We got along, but it took a LOT of effort on my part. I had to turn Leo and Gemini off and Libra had it work it's @ss off to keep things smooth. He was a really good guy overall. I mean, did a lot for people. He did a lot for me. I paid him for work done for me, but it was crazy reasonable. I even tried to send more work his way, figuring he'd appreciate it. If he committed to something, he did it. What I didn't like though was that if he didn't want to commit to something or just didn't feel like dealing with you, he'd ignore you. A couple weeks ago I text him to ask him a question. He just ignored me. So, that was it for me. I took him off social networks as that was the only continuous connection I had to him and then I'm done. Same with his buddy that I was friends with. I actually cut out a few people. His buddies sister... I just never was all that close to them and if he is just going to ignore me when he feels like it then... well see ya then. "Congratulations. You're now completely useless". He'd talk crap about others ALL THE TIME. But as Barbie said, I have a Cap sun sister but she has Libra moon, Sag Venus, Scorpio Mars, and Saturn in Taurus with no major aspects. She doesn't even come across as very cap to me. EDIT: He has a car repair business. He really really knows his stuff, I'm telling you. But he basically started a "business" so that he could get discounts on parts for his own hobbies and treats his "customers" like crap. I helped him out with his air conditioning before, etc. Idk... We are just different so eventually I just go my own way and they go their way. I do draw in cap moons and it's OK. The suns seem to be a different breed. lol IP: Logged |
meissieri Knowflake Posts: 1133 From: The Netherlands Registered: Feb 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 02:45 PM
I think, speaking as someone who is very Saturnine herself, it really all depends on where you meet and interact with said Capricorn. The Caps I know and used to know were all very much business in a professional setting. They go to work to, well, work. Do their jobs. They also prefer to stick to a bunch of people they're close to, if not their families. They do like to socialize, but it's not their priority, which can of course put others off or make them come across as unfriendly, unapproachable, aloof, etc. While in a more casual setting, they can be just as outgoing and there the famous dry, deadpan Cap humour comes out. But their education/career means a lot to them, so in a professional setting, they're just a lot more quiet and keep to themselves, focusing on their work. I love Cappies and I'm lucky enough to have gotten to know a few of them - male and female - quite well. It takes a lot of time to build up a relationship with them, but it's worth the time and effort (just like Saturn suggests, doing things long-term and with patience). A lot of them would have their Ascendant either in Capricorn or their chart ruler there, tied to Saturn, etc. IP: Logged |
BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 812 From: Pseudo-Leo with a 1st House Stellium Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 21, 2014 03:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by sword lily: yeah, it's weird how capricorn people (not just suns) get hated for being "boring" and "conservative" "users" while some other earth signs get praised and adored for it.ps. also cynical, wtf...
+1 Uh, yeah!
MagnumJoe, I'm really not that mad about it. It just gets old seeing the same stereotypes bring thrown around. Faith, why did you edit? I hate it when someone edits and I didn't get the chance to read it. Tortures my nosy soul! IP: Logged |