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Aries23Degrees
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posted July 28, 2014 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus/Saturn and Moon/Saturn aspect.

I don't have Sun/Moon square and was using an example of someone I know and seeing from them,how that energy manifests.

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Venusincap89
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posted July 28, 2014 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I have Venus/Saturn and Moon/Saturn aspect.

I don't have Sun/Moon square and was using an example of someone I know and seeing from them,how that energy manifests.


I think you just perfectly explained why I just got rejected from a mars opp pluto person
Thank you so much!
Saved me so much time of trying to figure out what the problem is, now I must figure out the solution

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LostSoulRebecca
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posted July 28, 2014 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostSoulRebecca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could it really be, that Venus/Saturn aspect have such power over one's natal chart?

I too have Venus conj. Saturn in 2nd House (with Neptun and Uranus, which is even more stressful, when we speak about relationships) and I do feel it's effects; I don't feel worthy enough to enter relationship at one hand, but on the other all men around me are just not good enough for me (too superficial).

But there MUST be some other aspects too in one's natal chart that could soften a little bit this Saturn/Venus aspect..., right?

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margym0o
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posted July 28, 2014 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus trine Saturn natally, and this might not apply at all in the same way as the hard aspects but I have had absolutely no trouble getting into relationships. Most of my adult life has been spent in long-term relationships. They come to me quite easily and frankly, I thrive on them. I have never been the type to "date around" - once I find someone I like, I pursue it/they pursue me. It has happened even where I have entered a relationship with someone who I thought had great "potential" and then grew to love them.

The problem I have is leaving relationships when I know for sure they are not good for me. Not necessarily that they are abusive, they're just not the right fit. That's where my sense of "duty" and "responsibility" kick in. I will give my partner the benefit of the doubt and be very accommodating of their faults, knowing that with time things could improve or change. I am definitely not the type to walk at the first sign of conflict or incompatibility - even in the early stages. I was the one to ultimately end my past relationships though because eventually I reached a breaking point.

I should also add that my only other aspect to Venus in my natal chart is a tight Venus square Pluto aspect which probably fuels all of the things mentioned above - my relationships take on a very "obsessive" theme (on my end).

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Canadiangirl
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posted July 28, 2014 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kibriana:
You know what you do? You fight it! You work on your insecurities and your problems, you identify your shortcomings and try to change them and become a more stable and happier person. That's what you do, that's why you were born with Venus/ Saturn aspect in the first place.

--Totally agree with this. That's what I've been doing and it seems to be working quite well. I also suffered from not feeling worthy of love but realised how silly that was. EVERYONE is worthy of it and its more likely to happen if you work on your own shortcomings that you learned from your past relationships. Maybe its something a person with this aspects learns later in life.

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PisceanDream
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posted July 28, 2014 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn conjunct my Venus in the first house. In matters of love, I consider myself very conservative. I've had many men approach me and many short-term (intellectual/emotional) flings. I usually find myself on the shallow side of love (Gem Moon sq. Venus) consuming my love interests very quickly and once I feel I have done so, I run away and move on now that I am bored (Gem Moon) and realize that I am seeking something more transcendental and serious (Venus conj. Saturn in Pisces). However, all the while, as I see people, I never really date or get into relationships. In fact, as a 20 year old girl, the first and last kiss I've ever had was 8 years ago and I have been romantically involved with at least 9 guys in the past 3 years. This is not a "hard to get" mind game or anything of the sort. I am just romantically conservative and limit my expression of love before it gets too out of control. I'm waiting for when it feels right and it hasn't... Even my first kiss was so awful. Not someone I had the slightest feelings for. I fall for people easily but fall out of them just as quick, they never phase me. Except for when I involve myself with Capricorn folk. The two men I actually loved had lots of Capricorn and Saturn in their charts.

I love the Venus conj. Saturn, I think once I find the right person that my Pisces so desperately seeks, I think I would be the best partner that I can possibly be. As I am often the first to admit that I'd make the crappiest girlfriend.

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Canadiangirl
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posted July 28, 2014 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strange, I have a gem moon too but I've always had serious long term relationships. I don't even bother with relationships where I don't think the other person is serious. Even though saturn conjunct venus is supposed to mean the individual has never been in love or think they deserve it I have always been in love with my bf's. They have always felt the same about me as well.

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PisceanDream
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posted July 28, 2014 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Canadiangirl:
Strange, I have a gem moon too but I've always had serious long term relationships. I don't even bother with relationships where I don't think the other person is serious. Even though saturn conjunct venus is supposed to mean the individual has never been in love or think they deserve it I have always been in love with my bf's. They have always felt the same about me as well.

I have the notorious Moon sq. Venus... Gem moon is just emotional nature, I don't think it means that you can't have a long term relationship. But my Gem moon + that aspect makes things a bit tricky for me. I think the problem is translating the energy of the saturn-venus aspect too literally and maintaining that it can't go any other way. My Venus-Saturn conjunction is one of the very few aspects I feel pretty comfortable with. It doesn't sabotage me and I don't feel that I am not loved or haven't felt love but rather that love relationships are restricted by me and are approached with a conservative and controlled attitude. My moon squaring my Venus however... Good Lord. Such an annoying aspect.

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Canadiangirl
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posted July 28, 2014 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see, I'm still learning my astrology so it confused me for a bit. It does sounds like a very difficult aspect to deal with in relationships. I'm sure you can overcome it though Glad to hear you have felt and had love in relationships!

I'm not sure if it was this thread or another one but I read that one of conditions of saturn conj venus is the person doesn't think they are lovable or deserve love.

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Canadiangirl
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posted July 28, 2014 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Canadiangirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NeptunianSag:
I take care of everything, but I just cannot be beautiful, even plastic surgery wouldn't help. I cannot even like one feature, I don't get compliments and that makes me feel ugly, unappreciated and unwanted. I tried to love myself but I can't bring myself to like my appearance or attributes.

--I suffered from this when I was younger so I know where you are coming from on this. Honestly, I just learned over time to love myself by looking at traits that I liked about myself. I also found a group of people who were very supportive.

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Venusincap89
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posted July 28, 2014 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

Moving on from bad situations and people who are bad for you.

Easier said than done, eh.


Doux reve can you plz take a look at my situation that ive posted in interpersonal astrology section? Plz and thank you

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PisceanDream
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posted July 28, 2014 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I take care of everything, but I just cannot be beautiful, even plastic surgery wouldn't help. I cannot even like one feature, I don't get compliments and that makes me feel ugly, unappreciated and unwanted. I tried to love myself but I can't bring myself to like my appearance or attributes. Venus and Saturn are conjunct in the 4th. My virgo moon is inconjunct Saturn too. I guess I wasn't designed to make others or myself happy.

You are so brave for writing this. You have no idea how commendable that is. I can never say such a thing about myself so publicly even if I were feeling that way so intensely that it was burning me alive. That is power. You have it in you. Redirect it. I can never speak about my issues and flaws and self-image so blatantly. I can never seek help or even hint that I am in an emotional position to seek it without feeling weak and insecure.
I've felt like this before but I force myself to become confident. I carry myself that way. I don't let anyone use my own flaws against me. We all have our insecurities. We all have pain that scars our souls and sometimes our bodies too but it is our job to march on and to make them a monument of our perseverance and strength. No amount of physical beauty can trump the beauty of confidence and the beauty of the soul. Don't stop working on yourself. Saturn is dying for you to use his energy positively.

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Doux Rêve
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posted July 28, 2014 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
Doux reve can you plz take a look at my situation that ive posted in interpersonal astrology section? Plz and thank you

Done.

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