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NeptunianSag
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posted July 26, 2014 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's the point really? When you want someone they are never there for you, when someone is there for you you push them away. Like what's the point when people are just a source of pain? Although that might be my sun square moon but still.

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hannaramaa
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posted July 26, 2014 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's not the only manifestation of Venus square Saturn. This could also signify feeling unattractive, maybe not taking care of your body. Maybe you weren't born with good bone structure either. Astrology is not solely responsible for your choices and relationships with people, which ironically factors into Venus square Saturn too.

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posted July 26, 2014 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sister has Venus retrograde conjunct Saturn in Capricorn in the 8th house, she is asexual, a virgin, and never been in a relationship with anyone before. She is 24 but not unattractive at all, she's rather cute with delicate features and an hourglass shape. She just doesn't care to pay attention to her appearance much. She's obsessed with writing about sex and focuses on sex a lot but as for involving herself in the act? Repulsive to her.

My other sister is the same, never been in relationship and a virgin, Venus sq Saturn.

I'm the only one who chases after boys, been in a relationship before, and concerned with my looks out of my sisters. lol.

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NeptunianSag
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posted July 26, 2014 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hannaramaa:
That's not the only manifestation of Venus square Saturn. This could also signify feeling unattractive, maybe not taking care of your body. Maybe you weren't born with good bone structure either. Astrology is not solely responsible for your choices and relationships with people, which ironically factors into Venus square Saturn too.

I take care of everything, but I just cannot be beautiful, even plastic surgery wouldn't help. I cannot even like one feature, I don't get compliments and that makes me feel ugly, unappreciated and unwanted. I tried to love myself but I can't bring myself to like my appearance or attributes. Venus and Saturn are conjunct in the 4th. My virgo moon is inconjunct Saturn too. I guess I wasn't designed to make others or myself happy.

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Chiemi
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posted July 26, 2014 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My future roommate has Venus square Saturn and she's been in a relationship for over 2 years. I don't even have this aspect (Libra Venus to boot) and I've technically never been in a "real" relationship myself lol..

I agree with hannarama.

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Venusincap89
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posted July 26, 2014 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus conjunct Saturn in Capricorn at 5th house (astro.com says it counts as 6th house tho for some reason)

I m not even that good looking but I get approached a lot :s
I also have too much confidence for my own good I think, I have no idea where it comes from
But yeah relationships never work ahahhaha
Before it passes 6 months mark, its over

I was told that Venus Saturn aspects are karmic ones??
So I think there is point in relationships for us in a sense that.. we go through bad relationships now to clear our karma and get rewarded with stable relationship when we are over 30 or 35?

At least its less likely for us to get divorced if we get married after 30 or 35 xD

But yeah I think its worth it for us to go through bad relationsips or romance to get the bad times out of the way, so we can prepared for real opportunities in future

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posted July 26, 2014 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
My sister has Venus retrograde conjunct Saturn in Capricorn in the 8th house, she is asexual, a virgin, and never been in a relationship with anyone before. She is 24 but not unattractive at all, she's rather cute with delicate features and an hourglass shape. She just doesn't care to pay attention to her appearance much. She's obsessed with writing about sex and focuses on sex a lot but as for involving herself in the act? Repulsive to her.

My other sister is the same, never been in relationship and a virgin, Venus sq Saturn.

I'm the only one who chases after boys, been in a relationship before, and concerned with my looks out of my sisters. lol.


You described my sister to a T, but she has Saturn conjunct instead.

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hannaramaa
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posted July 26, 2014 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I guess I wasn't designed to make others or myself happy.

Not everyone is.

Have you tried researching or getting creative with the way Venus conjunct Saturn can manifest?

Tell us everything you do that you consider Venus related? You said you take care of everything, but what's everything?

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geminigal2805
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posted July 27, 2014 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminigal2805     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I take care of everything, but I just cannot be beautiful, even plastic surgery wouldn't help. I cannot even like one feature, I don't get compliments and that makes me feel ugly, unappreciated and unwanted. I tried to love myself but I can't bring myself to like my appearance or attributes. Venus and Saturn are conjunct in the 4th. My virgo moon is inconjunct Saturn too. I guess I wasn't designed to make others or myself happy.

Hi NeptunianSag,
We all feel rejected at times. That includes people we consider 'beautiful' too : )
Love yourself. Appreciate yourself. Great attitude/personality trumps beauty any time! Have an optimistic attitude. Shine!
Take care : )

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m.blade
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posted July 27, 2014 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad has this conjunction in Aquarius.

He contracted polio when he was a child, luckily this was treated in time and wasn't too severe. He walks with a slight limp.

In regards to love, he's only had one partner (my mom) and they are still together today and have been for the past 18 years..

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Dancing Maenad
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posted July 27, 2014 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I've noticed about difficult aspects such as this one is that you cannot ignore them or walk around them, their energy needs to be expressed. Now you can either passively allow it to get expressed as it will - often through harsh experiences - or take control and express it in a direction you are comfortable with - for example date older people or people with very distinct Saturn/Cap features, career-oriented, parental, stern etc. OR start relationships that have a Saturn flavor, that require time and patience to get off the ground or are centered around discipline (D/s for example) or other Saturnian attributes.

We often have issues with these aspects because we do not accept their influence or their lessons, but once you do, they start working for you instead of against you.

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Doux Rêve
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posted July 27, 2014 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus/Saturn is one bi** of a combination.
*massive sigh*


Mae though

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jjj
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posted July 27, 2014 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
we go through bad relationships now to clear our karma and get rewarded with stable relationship when we are over 30 or 35?

Over 30? hehe Venus opp Saturn here... Im over 40 and still looking

It is like a curse... every time I start liking someone (usually a saturnian man) they reciprocate first (normally they hit on me first..), but then they turn cold and become unavailable... they are usually emotionally wounded or in a relationship, thus unavailable from the start. I feel often like a psychologist or a nurse lol. Should enroll to Red Cross

Ive decided to become a volunteer in a far away country next year, it helps me to detach and to see new people.


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posted July 27, 2014 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Over 30? hehe Venus opp Saturn here... Im over 40 and still looking

It is like a curse... every time I start liking someone (usually a saturnian man) they reciprocate first (normally they hit on me first..), but then they turn cold and become unavailable... they are usually emotionally wounded or in a relationship, thus unavailable from the start. I feel often like a psychologist or a nurse lol. Should enroll to Red Cross

Ive decided to become a volunteer in a far away country next year, it helps me to detach and to see new people.


yeah my assumption is that if you go through it often and early enough, karmar shoulda be cleared by 30s? or even late 20s?

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I'm so cappy
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posted July 27, 2014 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Karma can kiss my ass

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jjj
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posted July 27, 2014 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know 3 men in their 50ies with Saturn square Venus and I see clearly that their karma is not cleared even at that age.... still struggling with the same monster... feeling unworthy, unlovable, unable to give/accept affection etc... it is a lifetime struggle for many with this aspect.
My sis has Venus con Saturn and she is in her 40ies as well, doing not better than me in spite of having had several karma-clearing rel.ships.

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posted July 27, 2014 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Karma can kiss my ass



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Venusincap89
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posted July 27, 2014 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have venus conjunct Saturn and
I feel like my karma is already almost cleared :s
and I am only 25

I maybe wrong :s
you guys are scaring me

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I'm so cappy
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posted July 27, 2014 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about you free yourself from this stupid concept? ^^

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Doux Rêve
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posted July 27, 2014 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dunno about "karma" but all I know is that most issues are indeed life-long.

People don't just wake up one day and feel drastically different about themselves or their lives (unless they are bipolar or have some other mental disorder or something).

Generally speaking, no effort = no reward. Simple.
You don't work on it - you get the same result every damn time.

Now, how do you work on it?
I dunno. Therapy? Meditation? Purpose is self-love, self-acceptance, and positive and loving energy in you and around you.

Moving on from bad situations and people who are bad for you.

Easier said than done, eh.

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Venusincap89
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posted July 27, 2014 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok no more karma concept for me :s

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posted July 27, 2014 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kibriana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
What's the point really? When you want someone they are never there for you, when someone is there for you you push them away. Like what's the point when people are just a source of pain? Although that might be my sun square moon but still.

You know what you do? You fight it! You work on your insecurities and your problems, you identify your shortcomings and try to change them and become a more stable and happier person. That's what you do, that's why you were born with Venus/ Saturn aspect in the first place.

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posted July 28, 2014 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzuKtXwCEFU

does this video have any credit?

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posted July 28, 2014 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
What's the point really? When you want someone they are never there for you,when someone is there for you you push them away. Like what's the point when people are just a source of pain? Although that might be my sun square moon but still.

Sun/Moon square could relate to the inability to balance your individual wants with your relationship needs.

The square could suggest that you partner demands too much and that you find your own wants stifled.

Or that you are working towards your goals and your home life/marriage does not get much attention and the spouse/children feel neglected etc.

I knew a guy who had the square and would behave like a complete a***.

He found it difficult to get on with his girlfriends and often found that they "got" in his way a lot.

The Moon/Saturn is more representative, IMO,of the the push/pull syndrome you describe.

In my case it unfolds thus;

When I want someone to be there for me, though they may be there for me,I feel like they don't really understand. So it's sort of like they are not there for me at all.

So the next time they want to be "there" for me,I push them away by saying "it's fine, I'll deal with this myself", because their role was redundant in the 1st instance.

Kinda like when you lose your very important job and you are heartbroken. Your partner says "oh, I'm sorry babes" etc. than later ,in bed, asks you "so, can I get some?"

Its almost like they just don't understand the extent of your devastation. The last thing on your mind is sex. Gosh!!! This can really hurt and make you feel really alone at that point in the relationship!


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posted July 28, 2014 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Sun/Moon square could relate to the inability to balance your individual wants with your relationship needs.

The square could suggest that you partner demands too much and that you find your own wants stifled.

Or that you are working towards your goals and your home life/marriage does not get much attention and the spouse/children feel neglected etc.

I knew a guy who had the square and would behave like a complete a***.

He found it difficult to get on with his girlfriends and often found that they "got" in his way a lot.

The Moon/Saturn is more representative, IMO,of the the push/pull syndrome you describe.

In my case it unfolds thus;

When I want someone to be there for me, though they may be there for me,I feel like they don't really understand. So it's sort of like they are not there for me at all.

So the next time they want to be "there" for me,I push them away by saying "it's fine, I'll deal with this myself", because their role was redundant in the 1st instance.

Kinda like when you lose your very important job and you are heartbroken. Your partner says "oh, I'm sorry babes" etc. than later ,in bed, asks you "so, can I get some?"

Its almost like they just don't understand the extent of your devastation. The last thing on your mind is sex. Gosh!!! This can really hurt and make you feel really alone at that point in the relationship!


Wait so you have both sun square moon and Venus aspect Saturn?

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