posted July 29, 2014 08:15 PM            

Moon in pisces in the 4th inconjunct venus in the 9th.

posted July 29, 2014 08:16 PM              

I can see the 4th house also provoking nostalgia especially if an afflicted Mars or Neptune is in the 4th. But I'm pretty sure Neptune is in the equation.

posted July 29, 2014 09:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Leorpio:
Well you see, cancer wants to feel safe. It's all about the safety of the home and what keeps them in their comfort zone. Thus change is dangerous because it takes them out of their comfort zone. Taurus is very much the same way, but even more so.

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Makes sense! I wonder if Cancerian people were set up to feel threatened in childhood, thus leading to a later need for security. Almost every Cancer I've ever met has told me a story like this - either a divorce, moving a lot, unstable home life, etc. has later impacted them and has made them hate instability. I always feel astrology is fated somehow...so it makes me wonder.

posted July 29, 2014 09:39 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
I love change but I am also very nostalgic:

Moon in pisces in the 4th inconjunct venus in the 9th.

My moon rules my 8th
My venus rules my 6th and 11th.

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posted July 29, 2014 09:41 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
I tend to be very nostalgic often. I am heavily Piscean and I think that, in and of itself, contributes to this yearning and longing for the past, especially when I'm being confronted with the harshness of reality... I like to swim away as a Pisces would rather do and live in my fantasy world, revive old memories, and maybe even reconstruct them and alter them to make them real in my mind... Other than that I have Neptune in the 12th. I think maybe Neptune in aspect to the South Node may inspire nostalgia as well or Mars sq. South Node could indicate "hating change".

I can see the 4th house also provoking nostalgia especially if an afflicted Mars or Neptune is in the 4th. But I'm pretty sure Neptune is in the equation.

That's my take on it

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posted July 30, 2014 08:23 AM              

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
My Neptune makes a trine to my Moon and opposes 8H Mars in Cancer...and it's my 4th house ruler. As I said in the post above, I have a hard time accepting that things are so different with my family now compared to the past. I like your take on everything. I think that Piscean influenced people [I'm kind of included] can definitely have a hard time accepting reality, and that could translate over into a yearning for either a mysterious future or what was in the past... interesting.

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There we go! Your Neptune aspects really shed light on the source of your nostalgia. Interestingly enough, I was reading about having Capricorn on the 12th house cusp (which is what I have) and because it's on the 12th house cusp, the powers of Capricorn are hidden and aren't well-harnessed. Capricorn being the opposite of Cancer and also being weakened, I read, would make the native yearn for the past and give up when at first they don't succeed (which is uncapricorn and Saturn). Apparently, they miss their "high school years" which is very true in my case.

All in all, I think Neptune is heavily responsible for nostalgia. What aspects it makes and where, however, might indicate what you're feeling nostalgic about.

Also, I think Saturn in the 8th or in hard aspect to mars/pluto can indicate hating change. Pluto seeks to transform outdated views while Saturn seeks to structure and uphold traditional values. I can see the native perhaps hating change but also deeply desiring it and needing it. Throw in Mars in the mix, and there would be a confusion on what motive to fulfill and perhaps a perplexity that is hard to overcome.

I have Taurus SN in the 4th too opposite Pluto... So I'm really living in my comfort zone but my NN conjunct Pluto is pulling me towards a change and I feel myself being more comfortable with that pull and very uncomfortable with the SN energy in which I was (still am) comfortably living in. I come from a SN that hates change and favors comfortable sheltered living but I need to work towards having a transformative and compelling public image, career (10th house). This placement has made change very difficult for me. But I think I am finally getting ready to take the plunge.

posted July 30, 2014 08:28 AM              

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Originally posted by teasel:
I'm like this. I was crying all night, because of times that I wished I could go back to.

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posted July 30, 2014 08:56 AM            

I have:
Cancer Ascendant
Cancer Mars
Cancer Mercury
Ruler of 4th (Venus) conj. Sun 1°
Moon and Mercury in Mutual Reception disposit all the other planets in my chart

For me, it's all about emotional security. I just want to feel emotionally secure.

However...
Uranus conj. my IC tightly in my 4th house
Uranus rules my 8th

So, I came to terms with the fact that emotional security is an illusion a long time ago. Life happens and change is part of it. At any given moment, at any given time, your whole entire world and life as you know it can change.

Ironically, accepting that fact gave me the greatest emotional security of all. I finally learned to live life one moment at a time and not to take one second of it for granted. I learned to love Uranus instead of fear it, which is one of the hardest lessons a Cancer has to learn.

posted July 30, 2014 11:02 AM            

I'm uber change-resistant. It's actually super unhealthy.

PisceanDream mentioned Saturn/Pluto - I have a tight square, in fixed signs, and both planets are strong natally.

I also have a Cancer IC and what sweet-scorpion said applies 100%, which I think explains my "fixation" on security and fear of movement/change. The whole "existential anxiety" also affects me deeply on a regular basis regardless of my physical surroundings, but it tends to be exacerbated when I'm away from home.

posted July 30, 2014 11:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Jinni:
I HATE change and I am very nostalgic. My moon and mars are in Taurus. No cancer placements. Still I yearn for change but when it is happening I´m very resistant. I do not think that my hating chance is tied down to just material and tangible things but emotional as wel.l

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posted July 30, 2014 11:07 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I'm like this. I was crying all night, because of times that I wished I could go back to.

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posted July 30, 2014 11:13 AM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
There we go! Your Neptune aspects really shed light on the source of your nostalgia. Interestingly enough, I was reading about having Capricorn on the 12th house cusp (which is what I have) and because it's on the 12th house cusp, the powers of Capricorn are hidden and aren't well-harnessed. Capricorn being the opposite of Cancer and also being weakened, I read, would make the native yearn for the past and give up when at first they don't succeed (which is uncapricorn and Saturn). Apparently, they miss their "high school years" which is very true in my case.

All in all, I think Neptune is heavily responsible for nostalgia. What aspects it makes and where, however, might indicate what you're feeling nostalgic about.

I have Taurus SN in the 4th too opposite Pluto... So I'm really living in my comfort zone but my NN conjunct Pluto is pulling me towards a change and I feel myself being more comfortable with that pull and very uncomfortable with the SN energy in which I was (still am) comfortably living in. I come from a SN that hates change and favors comfortable sheltered living but I need to work towards having a transformative and compelling public image, career (10th house). This placement has made change very difficult for me. But I think I am finally getting ready to take the plunge.

Lovely thread btw! Made me look more into the things making me feel similarly to the way you do <3

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This is all great info! Thanks for sharing. I'm intrigued. For me, I have Scorpio on the 12th, but Pluto is actually in the 12th, so I believe it gives the cusp a bit more power in a unique way. I've always been curious about how the 2H/8H/9H emphasis on my Neptune aspects/placement would affect me. Mars in Cancer lies in the 8th, Moon rules the 8th and trines Neptune, and Neptune is in the 2nd opposite Mars... I've never been particularly nostalgic about sex, death and taxes, LOL.

posted July 30, 2014 11:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
I'm conflicted about change. I'm nostalgic, sentimental, and resistant to change, but I'm excited by it at the same time.

I have:
Cancer Ascendant
Cancer Mars
Cancer Mercury
Ruler of 4th (Venus) conj. Sun 1°
Moon and Mercury in Mutual Reception disposit all the other planets in my chart

For me, it's all about emotional security. I just want to feel emotionally secure.

However...
Uranus conj. my IC tightly in my 4th house
Uranus rules my 8th

So, I came to terms with the fact that emotional security is an illusion a long time ago. Life happens and change is part of it. At any given moment, at any given time, your whole entire world and life as you know it can change.

Ironically, accepting that fact gave me the greatest emotional security of all. I finally learned to live life one moment at a time and not to take one second of it for granted. I learned to love Uranus instead of fear it, which is one of the hardest lessons a Cancer has to learn.

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I totally understand where you're coming from. The ruler of my 4th, Neptune, is tightly conjunct Uranus and opposes Mars in Cancer. I've yet to entirely accept that things are never destined to be stable in my home environment, and with my relatives, but I'm getting there. It's why I'm moving away. I can't rely on them for consistent support most of the time, save one person. I know I can't expect them - or anyone, for the matter, really - to be static and remain the same forever, but it depresses me anyway. I had a rough childhood and unexpected change rubs me the wrong way. I like to be in control of the change in my life. People around me can be chaotic in their unpredictability, and that scares me.

posted July 30, 2014 11:22 AM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
sun-pluto
taurus - scorpio axis
sometimes capricorn placements

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Sun-Pluto, I imagine, would be controlling and want change to be very, very specific and built to their needs. Or, these people would be well equipped to deal with change, but the intensity of the change[s] they experience in their lives can shake them to the core until they fully access their inner power. However, I'm not entirely sure if I can see a Sun-Pluto person hating change or being resistant to it? Every Sun-Pluto person I've met, myself included [semi-sextile is not a big aspect but, it still is there, as the only one my Sun gets!], has become empowered by certain change... for me, it's particularly with my psyche and my appearance. On many occasions, I'm anxious to shed my old values, outward characteristics etc. and change them.

posted July 30, 2014 11:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Ja, I can relate to all of these.

I'm uber change-resistant. It's actually super unhealthy.

PisceanDream mentioned Saturn/Pluto - I have a tight square, in fixed signs, and both planets are strong natally.

I also have a Cancer IC and what sweet-scorpion said applies 100%, which I think explains my "fixation" on security and fear of movement/change. The whole "existential anxiety" also affects me deeply on a regular basis regardless of my physical surroundings, but it tends to be exacerbated when I'm away from home.

And yes, I sometimes think about the past and feel a certain degree of nostalgia, especially when it comes to my family.

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posted July 30, 2014 12:53 PM            

Loaded with Scorpio energy; Pluto sits in my 12H

My nostalgia fixates on how all my past memories (painful as well) continues to cloud me emotionally in the present. Seeking to understand. Reaching back in time and how I'm constantly trying to regenerate myself and get over it A Phoenix-like mentality. The home life as a child was a mess. I found some peace in seclusion; the four walls of my room. And so now, I am very much an introvert and my home is my escape from the world. It's NOT a healthy thing at times. But MOST days I have true bliss being home, reflecting and comparing.

Natal Jupiter tightly conjuncts Neptune. I mentally take escapes to the past often, period.

posted July 30, 2014 08:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
D: remove my name from your post, please!
*panic attack* lol

Oh yeah, I can relate to what you're saying.
Hang in there, security is mostly an internal thing (as you know). I would also like to become more secure in myself but for now it's kind of a distant wish, haha.

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posted July 30, 2014 08:30 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Sweet-scorpion, thank you so much! Always glad to be of help I've been doing astrology for about a year now but I tend to be very obsessive, so when something intrigues me I can't rest until I consume it and dissect it. Seeing as the discipline is vast, I think I will be obsessing for the rest of my life

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