posted August 03, 2014 03:47 AM              

I guess overall don't get too caught up on the minor details, they can always have different manifestations depending on the individual chart. I've never been happier anywhere else, and don't know why tf I'm still here honestly lol

posted August 03, 2014 08:07 AM            

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Maybe it means you're supposed to be super successful/famous even if it means traveling to the superfical US lol

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Guys, do you think I'd have fun in NYC?

It's interesting that the IC here is exactly conjunct the ASC for my perhaps future kingdom...

posted August 04, 2014 11:31 AM              

I have found a blog with a little bit of info on this!

Part 1

And you can take it from there. I'll post some of her guidelines from Part 3.

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Love and Relationships

Nearly all of us, at some point in our lives, want to find that special someone who understands us and loves us unconditionally. If you are moving to increase your love or marriage prospects, here’s some things to consider:

If marriage is your aim, then moving to a place where you have the Sun, Moon, Venus or Jupiter in the 7th house will be ideal. The planet that resides in the 7th house will often describe the kinds of partners we attract. The Sun in the 7th usually indicates a warm, loving partner who is proud, sociable and maybe a bit of an attention-seeker. Although we may lose our own identity with the Sun in the 7th, we may also discover that we find ourselves through partnerships.
With the Moon in the 7th, we will attract partners who are sensitive, caring and like to nurture us. This person may also be a liitle moody and prone to keeping things to themself, but on the whole, we will have a loving, supportive partner;
Venus or Jupiter in the 7th house is very lucky, and usually indicates a partner who is charming, good looking and loves socialising.
If you just want a brief holiday fling rather than a relationship, then look for these planets in your relocated 5th house. If it’s sex you’re after, then Venus and Jupiter in the 8th will be a good start.

However, look at what else you have occupying these houses. It may be the case that you have Jupiter in the 8th so you will have plenty of offers, but if Saturn is also in the 8th, then you may not follow up on most of them due to inhibitions or other (usually self-imposed) restraints. With Neptune in the 5th, 7th or 8th lovers may not appear to be who they say they are which can only lead to dissapointment.

And try to avoid any hard aspects to Venus if you don’t want your search for love to be an uphill struggle ie, Venus-Saturn, Venus-Chiron, Venus-Pluto.

Work and Career

If you are moving in order to enjoy better work or career prospects, here’s a few things to keep in mind:

Try and move to a place where your Sun makes good aspects to your Midheaven and/or your Midheaven makes a trine or sextile to your North Node. In these places, it will be easy for you to be discovered and appreciated for your work.
Look at any planets you have in your 10th house. If you have dreams of becoming an actor, then the Sun or Neptune may go a long way in helping. If you want to be a musician, Venus is a great placement here, and if you want to be a writer or work in some area of the communications sector, a well-placed Mercury is ideal. For general good luck with your career, Jupiter is fabulous.
As always, watch out for those two kill-joys- Saturn and Chiron, if you don’t want to feel like you’re banging your head against a brick wall!
The 6th house is associated with work and the workplace, so you might want to look at what’s there as well. Uranus in the 6th- you would be better off being self-employed or working as a contractor rather than having a boss breathing down your neck. Venus in the 6th? You’ll find it easy to get work and will usually have cooperative and pleasant workmates.
Any planets in the 2nd house can indicate what you might do to earn a crust in your new location. Mercury in the 2nd? You make money from writing or communication. Mars here? You pursue money relentlessly and will probably end up with a fair bit, but watch those impulse buys. You could also make money through sports.

Home and Family

If you are moving away due to difficulties with your family, then a change of scene could really open up a world of opportunities for you. But here’s some traps to avoid:

If you want to be free of toxic family crap, then avoid any new place where Mars, Saturn, Pluto or Chiron is in your 3rd, 4th or 5th house. In astrology, the 3rd house is associated with brothers and sisters and extended family (aunts, uncles, cousins etc.). the 4th house deals with our parents and the 5th is our children. Depending on who it is you’re moving to get away from, just bare in mind the condition of that house when you move. Saturn can indicate feelings of distance and difficult family relationships, Chiron can be like an aching wound where you are always wondering why you have such a bad relationship with your family and Pluto can feel like Saturn, only heavier. If possible, try to have one of the benefic planets like Venus or Jupiter in these houses, but if not, it’s better to have an empty 3rd or 4th house than to have a heavy planet that leaves us brooding about the past.

Health and Well-being

If you have suffered from chronic or even minor illness all your life, and you want your health to improve, you should look to the 6th and 12th houses. Too many signs here can indicate ongoing illnesses that stop us from having a normal, healthy life.

Uranus in the 6th or 12th- your health is subject to many ups and downs;
Sun in the 6th or 12th- Your health generally isn’t robust in these places, and you may suffer from tiredness and fatigue. With Neptune here, you could develop strange allergies or mysterious illnesses and all typs of alcohol and drugs are best avoided.
Venus and Jupiter again are the best planets to have here though over-indulgence with food should be avoided.

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posted August 04, 2014 02:02 PM              

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
FireMoon, thank you very much for posting your relocation chart and story!

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Thanks for starting this thread, very interesting! I realized I was probably exaggerating the good parts of that chart/experience a little just since I hate my current location so much lol, but still.. The "career" stuff is all relative since I was just a student, but I was actually turning down internships/jobs there out of laziness and because I wanted the free time... Which now is ridiculous looking back since it's such an uphill battle here and I don't seem to have the same connections.

Interesting about chiron in the 4th, some of my family hated the idea of me living there (probably because they knew I was actually happy and would forget about their drama lol) so they tried to manipulate me into moving back and I for whatever reason let it influence my decision which I also regret.

So annyway, I need to tie up loose ends too but don't plan on staying after that. I don't have a solid plan yet but you guys mentioned Australia which I've also considered..

I've been to Brisbane but only for a week and it was through a "mission trip" when I was pretty young with a fundamentalist christian group so we were basically isolated on their property and didn't get to see much. The relocation chart had Pisces rising and Pluto in 9th lol (and it did drastically change my views on religion) but I've always wanted to go back under different circumstances...

posted August 04, 2014 02:16 PM              

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
If that means getting my own star I think my cappy ass could honor LA with its presence hihi

Guys, do you think I'd have fun in NYC?

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Lol go for it cappy now that I'm thinking about it LA is kind of a terrible place tho really, maybe just don't stay too long...

NY looks fun with moon in 5th and those 8th house planets lol

posted August 04, 2014 02:45 PM              

The more I look into this, the more intimidating it all sounds! It is also pretty hard to find a location that would be benefic for you from all points of view, especially if you have a pretty difficult chart to begin with - and to avoid that location being in the middle of the ocean or at the poles or.. Middle East.
I have a few cities/charts that I actually like but in most of them I would vacation but I wouldn't actually live there (like Honolulu for example).
Having 2 benefics in the 10th must have really been great for you, so it's not surprising you managed to overcome Saturn there. Though in your case I don't think Saturn is such a problem because it is well aspected. Overall I think you had a very nice relocation chart - I am not crazy about Pluto in the 7th or Chiron in the 4th (but at least yours wasn't on IC like it's in my natal - and it got worse when I traveled to Turkey and made the aspect almost exact). But like I said, you can't have a perfect relocation chart - you have to decide what is most important to you, go where you'd have most success with it and find a way to deal with the rest.
I think if you're unhappy where you are, you should definitely consider moving. And don't let yourself be manipulated about this, do what is best for you.

posted August 04, 2014 04:28 PM            

It's a time bomb - which can go off at any time (unfortunately, that's a fact - and just a matter of time). And, by the looks of it (the way it's evolving) - that catastrophe might happen sooner than latter. The entire continent will be affected - and same goes for the rest of the world - but that's the "code red (hot spot)" zone. Might be bigger.

Well, when that happens - guess we'll all learn the true meaning of a hard life (doesn't matter what chart we have). Especially those who didn't knew how to appreciate their life - in times like those of today, when there's still a lot of room for that. Then again - who knows, maybe they'll feel better then - when most people will be miserable. I don't know... this relocation part - reminded me of this detail - which for now, might be better - if it's treated with ignorance (for the sake of bliss ^^).

Beyond that... i played this game before (more than once) - as the idea of relocation (for good) - was appealing to me for quite some time. I dabbled even with - the reasons of why i'd be interested in this move. And, yes... there was a time when - this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8H2RItFpqE - was one of the reasons, but - not anymore. Right now - i'd move in foreign place - just for the sake of adventure. Though, this part: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art icle-2703004/Belfast-welcoming-foreigners-major-UK-city-barely-half-Londoners-think-migrants-fit-in.html - is really important for me. I spent most of my life in Cluj - so I'm used to that kind of people (that treat foreigners - like their own). I wouldn't wanna deal with a place - where some of the people display hate for other nationalities - even racism.

PS.Sorry, if my post sounds a bit disturbing (the apocalyptic part - for example). That detail - seemed like something worth mentioning - for those who are interested in that part of U.S.

PS2.Reply to my post if you will - but don't quote it. :P

posted August 04, 2014 04:35 PM              

What are you referring at?

posted August 04, 2014 04:46 PM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
Lol go for it cappy now that I'm thinking about it LA is kind of a terrible place tho really, maybe just don't stay too long...

NY looks fun with moon in 5th and those 8th house planets lol

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I didn't mean I'd go live there But I think I could handle working there once in a while.
New York is my top destination when it comes to American cities. Would be awesome to go on a trip there someday.

posted August 04, 2014 05:23 PM            

Yeah, that's the one. Something like this: http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/prediction-23-of-u-s-could-be-devastated/ Though, that's just a random article - which seems legit in terms of info (an idea - if you will). Back in April, U.S. military started moving the nukes from that area - and at that time, some were suspicious of some intent regarding Russia (cause of the situation with Ukraine from that time - and the treats made by Obama). But apparently, they had other reasons: http://www.intel lihub.com/report-brazil-argentina-australia-sign-contracts-worth-hundreds-billions-dollars-house-u-s-populace-yellowstone-supervolcano-erupts/ Then, back in July - this started happening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHTpQ8xsOSI Well, they know about it - but there's nothing that can be done. Unfortunately. Apparently - we're not that advance to deal with a Supervolcano. It's even ironic if you think about it. I mean, most placed their bet on a asteroid - but, the sky is clear so far - while the earth is boiling. That monster was asleep for a long time - and it's starting to show signs of wakening (even close to its waking schedule - as some put it). So, hey - until something actually happens, the best option (as said before) might be ignorance (for the sake of bliss). It's not like we can change anything - so, there's no point in worrying about something that's inevitable (like death - for that matter).

posted August 05, 2014 07:09 AM              

7th, I actually have a pretty good chart in Argentina I thought about you when I raised it lol. I wouldn't move there either.

posted August 05, 2014 07:16 AM              

Arnold Schwarzenegger's natal chart:

And relocated chart:

Quite a big difference, I would say! Jupiter in the 10th pushed him to stardom and politics, Venus on DC helped him find marital bliss, NN in the 4th (compared to the very elusive, weakening INTERCEPTED Neptune in natal) probably felt like he found his "destined" home. Of course there are some difficulties because of Moon in 12th and Mercury in 6th, his surgeries, Sat-Pluto in the 7th for his trials and paternity claim..

It goes to further emphasize, as if there was any need to, that angular benefics trump everything else; malefics are manageable even if in angular houses (same as with Fire Moon), as long as they share it with one or more benefics.

Relocation helped Arnold shed light on his powerful Mars-Uranus conjunction, which ended up in his 5th - how perfect for an actor, specifically since POF moved from the 8th to the 5th!

posted August 05, 2014 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
That's really cool! What is the difference from your natal and how has that affected you?

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well it takes my mercury and sun out of the 12th and into the first. i still very much feel like a 12th house sun, but it's cool to know that I've gravitated to places that perhaps let me express my true self more easily. my birthplace is the a mess of lines converging, including saturn and pluto. i left there as soon as i could!

it still leaves me with an empty fifth, but my saturn/pluto conjunction moves to conjunct my DC, while my uranus/jupiter conjunction moves to the 8th.

and the most interesting is that it makes me a taurus asc....i've never felt that, but perhaps it lends to me feeling more grounded in my chosen life spots.

very interesting!

posted August 05, 2014 07:04 PM            

Yet, as mentioned above - one thing lead to another. While - i also had interest for those mentioned above - i learned about US moving their nukes from the Yellowstone region - which raised the question: Why? Didn't seem like a military measure - with a attack initiative. It takes a lot for a country to use its Nukes - as it can raise a red flag even among the ailed forces of that country. And then - i found out about the increased activity of Yellowstone caldera, which made sense. But that was back in April - and by July things got hotter (if the streets from that zone started melting). When things seemed stable with this supervolcano (last year - even) - was thinking of the possibility for an eruption in terms of centuries - even millenniums... but now - it looks more like "anytime - starting with today". This eruption could imply a major catastrophe - which i'm sure it will be perceived by religious people - in the wrong way (some Domesday type of punishment). But the truths is... this is "natural" - it happened before and it will happen again because that's the way of things. This has nothing to do with any punishment against humanity (for their sins or stuff like that). I'm sure - humanity will survive. I mean, we survived the last times - while the human population was incomparably smaller (thousands of us) - while now there's billions of us (we can resort to cannibalism - if we ran out of food ^^ jk jk). Anyway - since this topic is about relocation - i thought i'd mention this (a coincidence - if you will).

As for that video with Argentina. It was less about Argentina - and more about "a place where the slate is wiped clean (a new beginning)."

"Everyone wants an Argentina. A place where the slate is wiped clean. But the truth is - Argentina is just Argentina. No matter where we go, we take ourselves and our damage with us. So, is home the place we run to... or is it the place we run from.... only to hide out in places, where we are accepted unconditionally? Places that feel more like home to us - because we can finally be who we are."

But, you knew that.

I could really go for some mucenici right now, and i mean - right now! jk jk :P
Right now - i could go for one thing and one thing only: a good night sleep... so - that's where i'm going... zZzzzzZzzzZz.

posted August 06, 2014 03:24 AM              

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
FireMoon,

The more I look into this, the more intimidating it all sounds! It is also pretty hard to find a location that would be benefic for you from all points of view, especially if you have a pretty difficult chart to begin with - and to avoid that location being in the middle of the ocean or at the poles or.. Middle East.
I have a few cities/charts that I actually like but in most of them I would vacation but I wouldn't actually live there (like Honolulu for example).
Having 2 benefics in the 10th must have really been great for you, so it's not surprising you managed to overcome Saturn there. Though in your case I don't think Saturn is such a problem because it is well aspected. Overall I think you had a very nice relocation chart - I am not crazy about Pluto in the 7th or Chiron in the 4th (but at least yours wasn't on IC like it's in my natal - and it got worse when I traveled to Turkey and made the aspect almost exact). But like I said, you can't have a perfect relocation chart - you have to decide what is most important to you, go where you'd have most success with it and find a way to deal with the rest.
I think if you're unhappy where you are, you should definitely consider moving. And don't let yourself be manipulated about this, do what is best for you.

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Thanks DM and sorry for not responding sooner, it's just kind of a sore subject since I really do want to move but also really can't yet financially...

But honestly I would give you the same advice, if you're considering moving and you know you're not happy where you are, it might be worth the risk.... Also I know I've seen your chart at some point and don't remember thinking it was all that difficult overall . I can imagine natal Saturn in 9th would create obstacles and delays, but maybe you could take some time off work to travel around and see firsthand if there are cities you would consider living in (like somewhere in Australia)?

posted August 06, 2014 03:33 AM              

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I didn't mean I'd go live there But I think I could handle working there once in a while.
New York is my top destination when it comes to American cities. Would be awesome to go on a trip there someday.

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Yeah NY would be cool to visit... Even though I live in the US I've never been there other than the airport lol so I can't really elaborate on the city or anything unfortunately.