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Topic: Kate Winslet!
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 03, 2014 02:45 PM
  
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I hear you on the "dominant" Libra planets in her chart,they fill up her 1st house.She comes across quite strong.Not at all the wilting flower.
Go see the movie Labor Day. She is definitely a weak character in that movie prone to Stockholm Syndrome, with her share of woes. She is a mental wreck in it. I thought she played the part well, just thought the plot was a bit whacked. As far as real life goes, I am sure she is steely and refined, like someone with so much going on in Libra and that no nonsense Virgo Venus. There are similarities between Rose and Adele, the character in Labor Day. In the latter film, the ending is much brighter but there are plenty of troubles getting to it and parts of it seem out of touch with reality. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted August 03, 2014 03:08 PM
But what does a movie role have to do with her personality irl? That's acting, is it not? IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 03, 2014 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
So I'm watching Titanic in snot and boggers because it always gets to me no matter how many times I've watched it, anyway I was curious to see what her chart looked like and what do ya know she has the exact same personal placements as I do minus the Venus and Mars! 😱😱 I'd imagine her to be intensely charming! More so than I am lol, is that even possible  What do you think? Is there a such thing as too much of something really? Her chart screams strong ego with all of those 1st house planets and not to mention that Pluto rocks her world or she rocks it's world? What do ya think?
Barbie, we all share charts here!!
My AC libra @7
Pluto libra@11
Uranus scorp@5
NN scorp@22
Neptune libra@11
Jupiter aries@15
Chiron aries@24
Mars gem@29
Saturn leo@2.50 IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted August 03, 2014 03:11 PM
Wow you have more Scorpio than I thought, not Sag I didn't realize that until now lol. You have a nice chart Gabby. Proves how charmingly intense you are IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 03, 2014 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Wow you have more Scorpio than I thought, not Sag I didn't realize that until now lol. You have a nice chart Gabby. Proves how charmingly intense you are
That's probably why having my chart up makes me feel exposed?? Lol IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted August 03, 2014 03:19 PM
Hahaha probably lol. That's why I didn't quote it, I relate. I like your chart a lot Gabby it's free flowing despite the few reds IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted August 03, 2014 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
But what does a movie role have to do with her personality irl? That's acting, is it not?
My sentiment exactly. I was referring to interviews. When she is talking about her roles, she comes across quite assertive. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted August 03, 2014 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
My sentiment exactly. I was referring to interviews. When she is talking about her roles, she comes across quite assertive.
I knew what you meant I just didn't get what point she was trying to make.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 03, 2014 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
But what does a movie role have to do with her personality irl? That's acting, is it not?
It's interesting to see the characters she chooses to play. They have elements of Libra. It is like she can project her Libra/Virgo into her characters, with a hint of Aries now and then... IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted August 03, 2014 03:32 PM
But your statement contradicted that. I'm so confused  Actors play the roles of their character not themselves, it's their job, the movie isn't about them at that moment unless it's a documentary of their life. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 03, 2014 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
But your statement contradicted that. I'm so confused
In real life, I imagine her to be steely and composed. I know for a fact Libra stellium with Virgo Venus can be very composed and not care what anyone thinks of them. They are kinda iron willed. At the same time, I can see her exploring the world of Libra in her roles and she can look earthy and Virgo like when she wants to. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 03, 2014 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Hahaha probably lol. That's why I didn't quote it, I relate. I like your chart a lot Gabby it's free flowing despite the few reds
Thank you!
My only square is Uranus to Saturn 2 degrees.
Oppositions are Pluto to Jupiter 4 degrees, Jupiter opposed Venus 5 degrees, Venus opposed Chiron 5 degrees.
To bad all my issues/hard aspects fall in my 1st house! Ugh! IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted August 03, 2014 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Thank you!
My only square is Uranus to Saturn 2 degrees.
Oppositions are Pluto to Jupiter 4 degrees, Jupiter opposed Venus 5 degrees, Venus opposed Chiron 5 degrees.
To bad all my issues/hard aspects fall in my 1st house! Ugh!
You're welcome Looking at just my chart you'd think I'd be crazy and I'm the complete opposite lol. Yeah those aspects in the first would be tough but hey it makes you you.  IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted August 03, 2014 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
In real life, I imagine her to be steely and composed. I know for a fact Libra stellium with Virgo Venus can be very composed and not care what anyone thinks of them. They are kinda iron willed.At the same time, I can see her exploring the world of Libra in her roles and she can look earthy and Virgo like when she wants to.
But it matters what planets are in that stellium, if they're all outer minus one then it's completely different than a stellium that consists of mostly personal planets. I get that she'll have a slight Virgo feel to her Venus but there's no denying that she is pure Libra, it'd be different if the Venus were in 1st but it's not so the Virgo doesn't apply to her self. Her Libra or 'Virgo' have nothing to do with how she portrays the character. it's her job to protray what the director wants, maybe those that direct her like that. I don't know. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 03, 2014 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
But it matters what planets are in that stellium, if they're all outer minus one then it's completely different than a stellium that consists of mostly personal planets. I get that she'll have a slight Virgo feel to her Venus but there's no denying that she is pure Libra, it'd be different if the Venus were in 1st but it's not so the Virgo doesn't apply to her self. Her Libra or 'Virgo' have nothing to do with how she portrays the character. it's her job to protray what the director wants, maybe those that direct her like that. I don't know.
She chooses those roles and puts parts of herself into them. They are very Libran and quite complicated. They involve a partnership of some kind but are strained and extraordinary. I admire her for not seeking out cliche love roles but ones that are a bit off. These are more interesting.
Libra sun and moon are more conventional but her Venus and Mars spice it up some so she seeks more challenges instead of going for boring roles that are one dimensional.
Venus in Virgo will go against the grain for the fun of it. Notice all the criticism aimed at Titanic just because her character lived and Jack didn't? That didn't deter her from seeking a complicated role. One of my close friends growing up with Libra sun/stellium involving Jupiter with Venus in Virgo was the same. She had a buzz cut and although it mortified me she didn't care who said what about it and actually wanted her hair to be that short over being a little longer. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted August 03, 2014 05:08 PM
What Libra actor or actress, actor and actress in general goes for conventional or boring?  I get what you're saying however one planet doesn't make you who you are. It's your whole chart. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 03, 2014 05:14 PM
Libra is thought of as a conventional sign. Like love, marriage, peaceful, calm. Kinda like Disney. The sign of balance traditionally doesn't go for troubled waters. They mostly do not wish to hear negative things so they are hesitant to do whatever they think will illicit that. Venus in Virgo doesn't really care though. My mom has this too and she has always been outspoken and brash about stuff. She got a divorce back when southern women were heavily stigmatized for doing something like that.
And then my friend with Venus in Virgo and mom are both pretty much independent feminist careerists even though one's a Leo sun, the other, Libra. Venus in Virgo might seem like it would be boring but it is often a sign of someone with a lot of backbone and courage. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted August 03, 2014 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
But it matters what planets are in that stellium, if they're all outer minus one then it's completely different than a stellium that consists of mostly personal planets. I get that she'll have a slight Virgo feel to her Venus but there's no denying that she is pure Libra, it'd be different if the Venus were in 1st but it's not so the Virgo doesn't apply to her self. Her Libra or 'Virgo' have nothing to do with how she portrays the character. it's her job to protray what the director wants, maybe those that direct her like that. I don't know.
Chill. The Libra stellium is DISPOSITED by that Virgo Venus. That shizz matters. I understand that you want to stress KW's Libra-ty [and quite frankly indirectly talk about yourself *wink wink*] - but the point SSS is so elegantly making is purely astrological.
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Barbiegirl19
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posted August 03, 2014 05:22 PM
Venus is Virgo would seem like the opposite imo. Very sensitive to what others think, being incredibly critical of those you love or care about and not one for showing emotion outwardly but once they find the one they're different. Kate doesn't give a s hit which is so that 1st house stellium IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted August 03, 2014 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Chill. The Libra stellium is DISPOSITEDby that Virgo Venus. That shizz matters. I understand that you want to stress KW's Libra-ty [and quite frankly indirectly talk about yourself *wink wink* but the point SSS is so elegantly making is purely astrological.
Who said it never mattered.... This is about Kate not me. SSS brought me into this. She's always trying to discredit those that are more Libra(even Libra suns) than she is, it's quite annoying actually, it's not a who's the most Libra game. She did it to me in another thread. All I was saying is that her Libra overpowers all else in her chart because it does and that she has an Aries feel. Her Venus is what she likes and how she loves and that has a Virgo feel. She may be more grounded than the normal Libra with the Virgo Venus but it doesn't mean she looks like a Virgo or is one. Don't stick your nose in a coversation without having the full facts.  What she's saying doesn't make logical sense in what we're discussing when you look at the full facts, this is strictly astrological when it did it fade over to something else...?
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 03, 2014 05:32 PM
No no no. I am not discrediting any Libra.In fact let's look at Bridget Bardot who I think is beautiful. She had a Sagittarius ascendant, Libra sun and Jupiter in Libra. Even though she has Venus in Virgo too, her beauty screams Libra to me. So I am not trying to take away anyone's Libra, just noticing the fine combination of astrological factors present IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted August 03, 2014 05:45 PM
This is why I get irritated. One minute you dislike Virgo the next you're all about it. It really seems to me like you strongly dislike being a Virgo and I'm sorry but neither you or myself can ever change that. All in all your chart as a whole makes you simply you. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted August 03, 2014 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Who said it doesn't matter.. this is about Kate not me. SSS brought me into this. She's always trying to discredit those that are more Libra(even Libra suns) than she is, it's quite annoying actually, it's not a who's the most Libra game. She did it to me in another thread. All I was saying is that her Libra overpowers all else in her chart because it does and that she has an Aries feel. Her Venus is what she likes and how she loves has a Virgo feel. Don't stick your nose in a coversation without having the full facts sweetie. What she's saying doesn't make logical sense in what we're discussing.
Well, Kate is the meta - Libra, don't you think? :P As opposed to illogical sense? Hush, child, nobody cares about your "Scorpio/Libra/whatevs post-edit". I shall repeat myself - the astro input that connected the Virgo/Libra dots was given not just by SSS but by other posters. For the posterity reading this hot mess of a thread, it is good to notice that at some instant, the astrological stance was made. (I would also add that there's a strong astro relation between actors and the type of roles they choose, especially if they play real life people. Casting directors may not use astrology but they have the same eye as the astrologers.) I am commenting, not sticking my nose into a conversation. And, if I do choose to stick my nose, child, then... Too bad for ya.
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Barbiegirl19
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posted August 03, 2014 05:54 PM
I'm entitled to my opinion just like those with theirs that are wrong. I'm not in the mood for smartassness today. Call the thread whatever you'd like it wasn't of your concern and now it is. Have all of the facts first little one before you start mouthing off and get confident on the internet. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 03, 2014 05:57 PM
I don't really like or dislike being a Virgo. My personal experiences with Venus in Virgo has been they are difficult to get along with because they tend to be strong willed and my will clashes with theirs.
I do admire what Venus in Virgo accomplishes which is usually considerable. I don't generally compare Virgo suns to Libra ones in order to say which one is better. The Virgo influence in the chart stands out to me. I can always spot it except in one case, Bridget Bardot's. I was shocked to see Venus in Virgo. I was thinking Libra or Sagittarius.
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