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Topic: how accurate do you guys find the progressed charts?
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Venusincap89
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posted August 04, 2014 12:49 AM
  
Do you guys find your progressed chart relevant? Agreeable?
Is there anyone who has disclaimers about the progressed charts?IP: Logged |
theunknown
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posted August 04, 2014 12:56 AM
i dont find it relevant. I dont think I turn into a pisces sun. (i'm an aqua). My progress venus is in aqua which doesn't even make sense to me. I become more conservative with relationships over time, not friendlier...IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted August 04, 2014 01:17 AM
for me its very relevant. when my progressed sun moved into leo my whole life changed. I find solar arc relevant as well.IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 04, 2014 01:59 AM
When progressed Sun moved from saggy to cap, I went from carefree philosopher to feeling the weight of the world and responsibility crash down on me hardcore.
Then when my Ascendant went from libra to scorpio I went from someone always trying to please everyone else and make sure everyone was happy to someone who questioned everyone's intentions and started wondering why I wasn't protecting myself.
When my Venus moved from libra to scorpio I was young, but scorpio to saggy happened a few years ago and I suddenly could became extremely Independant and didn't need a relationship to be happy....I wanted to explore my world and enjoy life on my terms without someone telling me what to do or trying to cage me in through a relationship. My freedom became priority #1!!So, yep...I have found them relevant! IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted August 04, 2014 04:29 AM
Very accurate! Virgo stellium in 12H sq Neptune in 3H.
Libra Pluto and Mars conj Asc in 1H. Gemini Moon in 9H at the end of August 2014. Good times.. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted August 04, 2014 05:36 AM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
for me its very relevant. when my progressed sun moved into Leo my whole life changed. I find solar arc relevant as well.
Its confusing  OR maybe I have swallowed stupid pills? My Progressed Sun is in Aquarius.
My Solar Arc Sun is on the "edge" of Cap My Progressed Moon is in Virgo
My Solar Arc Moon is in mid Leo. Which one is it? I don't know.
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Doux Rêve
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posted August 04, 2014 07:06 AM
Pretty accurate overall.
Not sure about Solar arcs.The aspects are even more important than the signs, imo.
The Moon and its aspects especially. Venus, Mercury. The rather fast-moving planets. The Sun is kinda hard to "feel" to begin with (in the natal) so it's tricky.
But I believe they're legit, especially when it comes to synastry. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted August 04, 2014 07:50 AM
aspects with the natal chart? Is that what you mean?If I look at it from that perspective. I still don't resonate with it. My progressed Sun is squaring natal Pluto-Someone is trying to control you/you need to come face-to-face with the darker aspect of yourself!!! Huh??? I didn't get the memo  IP: Logged |
theunknown
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posted August 04, 2014 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Pretty accurate overall.
Not sure about Solar arcs.The aspects are even more important than the signs, imo.
The Moon and its aspects especially. Venus, Mercury. The rather fast-moving planets. The Sun is kinda hard to "feel" to begin with (in the natal) so it's tricky.
But I believe they're legit, especially when it comes to synastry.
Can you explain further?Honestly I have aqua stellium and sun-saturn conjunct so I know I'm an aqua. It's hard to wrap my mind around the idea that I can turn fishy... They are too kind lol. I feel like I get increasingly Saturnian (cap node)
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Ami Anne
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posted August 04, 2014 08:14 AM
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Doux Rêve
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posted August 04, 2014 08:25 AM
Both progressed aspects and progressed to natal aspects. They have to be tight, 1° max. That's when you feel them.Especially planets crossing the angles... Sun and Moon - big ones.
For me it's had to do with people entering my life that triggered some internal stuff, as shown by the angle/planet. E.g. pSun on my nDSC - I was very in love and my issues with closeness/commitment were like "DING DING DING!", brought to my consciousness in a big way (Sun). With pMoon on my nASC - that one happened not long ago; I experienced the desire to be more "myself" around others, show myself more, be around others and interact with them through my ASC traits (Gemini - light-hearted, not very intimate nor close, wanting new experiences). This was all on an internal level. I didn't actually take action to experience those things in the outer world. Perhaps that's because the pMoon/nASC conjunction was not in aspect with a transiting planet (it didn't come to materialize but stayed in my self).
However I did interact with "lunar" people, some people briefly entered my life that fit the lunar principle (apparently progressed planets conjuncting the natal or progressed asc point to the type of people/situations you're likely to attract). Another example: right now I have pVenus conjunct natal and prog. Pluto, and they're both square natal and prog. Saturn (1°). The themes of Venus are in profound crisis currently, internally. Externally, there's not much going on (no transit is triggering them) but I can feel that tension in myself. It's of course fueled by external events to some degree, but it's not as blatant as a transit... Hope it makes sense.
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starmoon
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posted August 04, 2014 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by theunknown:
i dont find it relevant. I dont think I turn into a pisces sun. (i'm an aqua). My progress venus is in aqua which doesn't even make sense to me. I become more conservative with relationships over time, not friendlier...
not relevent. not important to astrology. and they go against almost every single concept of personality. personality is static over time, a progressed chart gives the impression that one changes, which we really don't. preferences change, personalities not so much. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted August 04, 2014 08:40 AM
Resonates. Naturally, it should be taken into account along with the transits and the natal. I am yet to meet a person who didn't feel pSun/Moon action, or the ingression of Sun/Moon/CR into the next sign. IP: Logged |
BellaFenice
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From: Pseudo-Leo with a 1st House Stellium
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posted August 04, 2014 10:31 AM
YES, YES, and YES!The aspects I don't feel unless there is a tight orb like Doux Reve described above. I really have felt pSun, pMoon, and pASC the most. Ever since my ASC and Moon (1st) progressed into Aqua I have found myself slowly letting go of the reserved and timid nature I had over the past several years. So yeah I am still an Pisces Moon and Cap ASC, but now I am much more confident and friendly and shockingly- have a personality! Cannot wait for my Mars in Taurus to progress into Gemini next year- going to be fun! The pSun trine nPluto has been a great aspect, tremendous drive and perseverance to overcome things. I also have pMoon conj nVenus, so maybe I will finally settle down. Probably not though. ;p IP: Logged |
Venusincap89
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posted August 04, 2014 12:26 PM
What about progressed house placements?I have venus in 6th house now and I can't wait until they turn 7th house  Oh and thank you doux reve once again  IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted August 04, 2014 12:42 PM
If I go by what I feel then I definitely feel asc. Other things have simply moved into signs and houses that are already strong for me.
Even the p-asc... I have an aspect that gives that feel anyway. So I'm not sure. I'm just not sure of the validity. Cool thought but I'm not sure how strong it is. I have my doubts. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted August 04, 2014 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
not relevent. not important to astrology. and they go against almost every single concept of personality. personality is static over time, a progressed chart gives the impression that one changes, which we really don't. preferences change, personalities not so much.
Are you saying that ones experience doesn't help them evolve and grow overtime? are the same personality you were when you were five, and the things you have learned since then have done nothing whatsoever to change your character?
your birth chart is the picture of the things you were meant to experience this lifetime, based on previous lifetimes, and the progressed chart shows how things unfold.
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Supreme cT
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posted August 04, 2014 02:21 PM
I never understood How long does it take for the planets to progress? And yes i do feel my progressed sun and moon in sagittarius and my asc in pisces, i want my mars to progress in to leo already its at 27 degree cancer how much longer do i have?IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted August 04, 2014 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by Supreme cT:
I never understood How long does it take for the planets to progress? And yes i do feel my progressed sun and moon in sagittarius and my asc in pisces, i want my mars to progress in to leo already its at 27 degree cancer how much longer do i have?
I just start changing months or years and watching. Estimating from my chart I guess it takes about 40 years to progress one whole sign. So, 4-5 years for you I think but I'd check it. One thing that I've found to be true is when things (sun, asc, planets) change signs in progressed... Events happen.
Good or bad
I started verifying with myself and family members. Weddings, divorce, births, deaths, etc.
So far it's worked!
I met Barbie as my Venus was progressing into Scorpio. IP: Logged |
Supreme cT
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From: NJ
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posted August 04, 2014 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I just start changing months or years and watching. Estimating from my chart I guess it takes about 40 years to progress one whole sign. So, 4-5 years for you I think but I'd check it. One thing that I've found to be true is when things (sun, asc, planets) change signs in progressed... Events happen.
Good or bad
I started verifying with myself and family members. Weddings, divorce, births, deaths, etc.
So far it's worked!
I met Barbie as my Venus was progressing into Scorpio.
thanks! i just checked my mars is never going in to leo lmao! i checked up until 2050 and it doesnt move forward dammmm IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted August 04, 2014 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by Supreme cT:
thanks! i just checked my mars is never going in to leo lmao! i checked up until 2050 and it doesnt move forward dammmm
Ohhhhhh... Mine is stuck in Libra. Ha IP: Logged |
lioninash
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From: new england!
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted August 04, 2014 04:03 PM
Ive had sun, moon, mercury and venus all progress into a different sign. Only my moon has changed houses though. The progression i feel the most is my venus. Ever since it moved from virgo to libra i have learned how to truly love myself.IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted August 04, 2014 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
not relevent. not important to astrology. and they go against almost every single concept of personality. personality is static over time, a progressed chart gives the impression that one changes, which we really don't. preferences change, personalities not so much.
I can track back DRASTIC changes every 2 1/2 year, or thereabouts, my moon changed signs and houses. And I mean drastic changes. When it was in Aries 8H I was off my head insane.. IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag
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posted August 04, 2014 04:29 PM
My progressed chart is depressing, it's all light and airy my natal. But my progressed is pretty dark - pluto in 1st, asc in scorpio, venus square pluto, sun in cap yeah pretty depressing. IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted August 04, 2014 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Are you saying that ones experience doesn't help them evolve and grow overtime? are the same personality you were when you were five, and the things you have learned since then have done nothing whatsoever to change your character?
your birth chart is the picture of the things you were meant to experience this lifetime, based on previous lifetimes, and the progressed chart shows how things unfold.
yes and no. we definitely change and grow all the time as a result of new experiences, education, etc. but if you take someone at the age of 5 and look at them again at the age of 35, they will be remarkably similar. a shy person generally remains shy, a studious person generally gets smart and earns degrees, a talkative child usually grows up to be outgoing, etc. character traits remain very static. interests, hobbies, etc. shift our thoughts and influences our decisions. this is something that has been proven time and time again, that character remains relatively stable over time. it is extremely hard to change character traits. progressed charts give the false impression that some planetary shift is responsible for a choice. why isn't your natal solely responsible for that choice? it's allowing a person to blame a planetary influence for behavior instead of a natal aspect. it's just weird and not relevant to me. IP: Logged |
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