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Topic: Pluto in someone else's 12th
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hannaramaa
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posted August 06, 2014 12:05 PM
  
Particularly in Scorpio. What effect did they have on you or you on them that you'd attribute to this aspect? IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted August 06, 2014 05:31 PM
Found this one for you. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted August 06, 2014 05:38 PM
Thanks! One of the first few posts resonated. My Pluto was in someone's 12th and I really wanted to help him change and influence him to be at his best, but I hadn't known him very long and didn't want to overstep myself. Is it a very binding or intense aspect? IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
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posted August 06, 2014 08:11 PM
Pluto in Scorpio in someone's 12th in synastry could manifest in a few different ways. The first one that comes to mind is an intense probing and 'digging' into the house person's psyche. The planet person will want to investigate what makes the house person 'tick'. The planet person may, either intentionally or unintentionally, transform the house person psychologically and emotionally, changing views the person has held about sex, death, personal transformation, and other Scorpionic topics. The house person may be resistant to this almost fated, intense connection. The 12th is not an evil house, but it is a sensitive house, and the house person may struggle with opening up all while feeling the intense desire to do so. Trust issues may come into play. However, when trust is established, the floodgates can come crashing open and the house person may feel comfortable revealing to the planet person some deeply held secrets or beliefs. More about how Pluto will work here can be shown in what aspects Pluto makes to the house person's other planets and angles. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted August 06, 2014 08:39 PM
That sounded straight of a textbook  YES though. I think you nailed what I sensed from him all the time! I thought he was just being oppositional, so maybe this is why. Scorpio ruled his 12th house (*that explains a lot* right?!) We haven't spoken in 2 months but it still doesn't feel "done", you know? Does Pluto cause that? His Pluto was also in Scorpio, so I'm guessing that conjunct my Pluto in the 5th house which would then oppose my Moon in the 11th. His Moon probably fell in my 7th house somewhere, and his Sun in my 11th. IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
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posted August 06, 2014 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
That sounded straight of a textbook YES though. I think you nailed what I sensed from him all the time! I thought he was just being oppositional, so maybe this is why. Scorpio ruled his 12th house (*that explains a lot* right?!) We haven't spoken in 2 months but it still doesn't feel "done", you know? Does Pluto cause that? His Pluto was also in Scorpio, so I'm guessing that conjunct my Pluto in the 5th house which would then oppose my Moon in the 11th. His Moon probably fell in my 7th house somewhere, and his Sun in my 11th.
LOL...that's my 3H Saturn for you. I'm glad it was accurate and provided some insights for you with your situation with this person. Feeling like things are not 'over' yet despite wanting to move on or having fights is definitely related to Saturn and Pluto in synastry [and composite, too, for the matter]. Pluto opposite Moon in synastry, where someone's Pluto touches your Moon, can also lead to feelings of persistent, almost magnetic and hypnotic attachment, as well as fluctuating 'love-hate' emotions between both parties. A very volatile and intense aspect, somewhat similar to the Moon falling in someone's 8th house. He very likely wants you to reveal more than he wants to reveal himself, because this will make him feel more in control. If you try to probe him, he'll likely withdraw if he is a Scorpionic person in general. A lot of Scorpionic people tend to have felt threatened in childhood without exactly knowing why, as if there was a subconscious undercurrent of mistrust or anger or skeletons in the closet all around them only showing at certain times...so this can easily carry into adulthood patterns and lead to paranoia when someone tries to probe or psychoanalyze them. He may fear that you will bring to light what he does not want to see and discover about himself, but feels may be there. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted August 06, 2014 09:26 PM
^^ I think he was Scorpionic only because I assign more Scorpionic traits to Sag people than is normally characterized. He had Sag ASC and Sag Moon, but natally his Pluto would've fell in his own 12th house. On top of that he had Venus in Pisces. You know, now that you say about probing and whatnot, it seemed like he was only making conversation and he never pressed for info but I was more secretive around him than usual when I like someone. Like I just felt an instinct to keep everything hidden and private even though there wasn't any threat in revealing myself.IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
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posted August 06, 2014 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
^^ I think he was Scorpionic only because I assign more Scorpionic traits to Sag people than is normally characterized. He had Sag ASC and Sag Moon, but natally his Pluto would've fell in his own 12th house. On top of that he had Venus in Pisces. You know, now that you say about probing and whatnot, it seemed like he was only making conversation and he never pressed for info but I was more secretive around him than usual when I like someone. Like I just felt an instinct to keep everything hidden and private even though there wasn't any threat in revealing myself.
Natal Pluto in the 12th is a powerful but potentially difficult placement. I'm a Sagittarius rising with the very same placement, actually.  It has its ups and downs. I'm more open sometimes than other times. Also, what you were feeling about wanting to be instinctually secretive is very much the expression of the Moon-Pluto opposition between you two. I can see that. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted August 06, 2014 10:25 PM
I've never felt that way before with other Moon / Pluto though. Any speculation as to why? I guess it just manifests in different ways. It's like I really enjoyed him asking me questions because most guys I like don't…with most guys I liked we usually just talk but there's no opportunity to be personal like that, and yet it surprised me too and I was caught off guard so I felt like I had to be very careful with anything I said or did. So weird for an Aries Sun / Gem ASC! Lol. Yet with Moon / Pluto you'd think we would be up each other's ***** , but it wasn't like that. Or maybe he was resisting, idk.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 06, 2014 10:32 PM
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