posted August 10, 2014 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
T, wtf?

What makes you think I'm 14? Why would I lie about it? And can't you see that I didn't mean to insult anyone?

Of you think that men acting a bit girly is an insult, then you're the one who's offensive.

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Because it was a major stereotyping and generalization of a sign, not to mention false. It also reinforces stereotypes and emasculates men, which AG nicely pointed out.

Maybe you meant something different, but 'girls' isn't the apt word to choose. I guess I am offensive then, because saying they act 'girly' based on your description is offensive to both sexes.

For example: calling a girl fragile (its implied in your OP). I'm a 1st house stellium....far from fragile!

posted August 10, 2014 05:13 PM            

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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
I've noticed that men with taurus sun act like like girls and are girly.

The way the laugh, walk, talk. They act like they're fragile.

I think it's cute.

I know 3 taurus men, 2 with their sun in it, the other with the moon.

The sun ones are more girly in nature, and the moon one acts girly on occasions.

I don't know if they realize it or not lol.

But they're not necessarily gay. I don't think they're gay, it's just in their nature.

What are your experiences with Taurus men, what do you think about them, do you agree with this or not?

Thanks xx

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My apologies but I do not believe for a second that you just randomly thought Taurus guys are girly, especially when you only know three. You have put in way to much detail here and have spent much time obsessing over this.

I believe that you are of the male gender, age is in the late teens to early 20's, and you are of Taurus within your natal chart, possibly Sun and Moon both in Taurus. Inside you is turmoil and this turmoil is a battle over your true sexuality. I believe that you've posted this message in an effort to find answers. Answers you seek on your journey to find your true sexuality and, for some reason, what society thinks matters to you. However, the first person that should matter to you, is you!

posted August 10, 2014 05:20 PM            

I don't find anything wrong with the OP, to be honest. She stated her personal opinion, so what?

posted August 10, 2014 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Brobian:
My apologies but I do not believe for a second that you just randomly thought Taurus guys are girly, especially when you only know three. You have put in way to much detail here and have spent much time obsessing over this.

I believe that you are of the male gender, age is in the late teens to early 20's, and you are of Taurus within your natal chart, possibly Sun and Moon both in Taurus. Inside you is turmoil and this turmoil is a battle over your true sexuality. I believe that you've posted this message in an effort to find answers. Answers you seek on your journey to find your true sexuality and, for some reason, what society thinks matters to you. However, the first person that should matter to you, is you!

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Lol this is getting ridicilous; yes she either phrased herself very badly or she is trying to put forth a view of tauruses being feminine or "girly" as she put it, atlough the only thing she really is doing is reinforcing the already illogical stereotype that heavy venusian or heavy lunar or any other "feminine" placement for that sake is in fact gender spesefic. which in my beileif no energy is, it just has attributes of which is seen as either masculine or feminine.

As to you'r out of this world conclusions that is even more retarded, i see where you take that from but it's far to vague to hold any kind of root in reality from what you or any of us know.

posted August 10, 2014 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
I've noticed that men with taurus sun act like like girls and are girly.

The way the laugh, walk, talk. They act like they're fragile.

I think it's cute.

I know 3 taurus men, 2 with their sun in it, the other with the moon.

The sun ones are more girly in nature, and the moon one acts girly on occasions.

I don't know if they realize it or not lol.

But they're not necessarily gay. I don't think they're gay, it's just in their nature.

What are your experiences with Taurus men, what do you think about them, do you agree with this or not?

Thanks xx

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posted August 10, 2014 06:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Brobian:
My apologies but I do not believe for a second that you just randomly thought Taurus guys are girly, especially when you only know three. You have put in way to much detail here and have spent much time obsessing over this.

I believe that you are of the male gender, age is in the late teens to early 20's, and you are of Taurus within your natal chart, possibly Sun and Moon both in Taurus. Inside you is turmoil and this turmoil is a battle over your true sexuality. I believe that you've posted this message in an effort to find answers. Answers you seek on your journey to find your true sexuality and, for some reason, what society thinks matters to you. However, the first person that should matter to you, is you!

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I'm sorry but that was insane. Lunar Piscean people are cray cray.

^ I speak from personal experience!!

btw, I do believe there are feminine and masculine that are NOT related to gender stereotypes but rather yin and yang which both sexes can have an inclination to one or the other.

for example wearing heels and dressing pretty is not a girly thing, is just a love of beauty thing lol.

posted August 10, 2014 07:23 PM            

I was not mean, nor did I have mean intentions. I will always stand tall for the innocent, it is in my nature to do this. I only brought their insecurities too their own eyes, exactly what they did to any male taurus out here that has ever felt insecure about themselves.

posted August 10, 2014 07:27 PM            

Yeah, so what?
I know that already, rofl.

Sure, the generalization is quite clumsy, but I don't think it was meant to be offensive or malicious. I simply see curiosity there.

posted August 10, 2014 07:32 PM              

AND LOL @Brobian and KarkaQueen your comments made me laugh. Thanks, I needed that!

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posted August 10, 2014 07:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I wouldn't be offended if someone said I act like a dude, personally.

Yeah, so what?
I know that already, rofl.

Sure, the generalization is quite clumsy, but I don't think it was meant to be offensive or malicious. I simply see curiosity there.

Anyway, this thread is turning into something a bit weird. Wonder what the OP thinks.

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With all due respect, your mind and thoughts are unique to you and are in no way aligned with how the other peoples of this earth think or feel.

When one goes to post on a forum or any other type of social place, it takes seconds to ask yourself the question; how will this effect my fellow people?

posted August 10, 2014 07:37 PM              

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Originally posted by Brobian:
With all due respect, your mind and thoughts are unique to you and are in no way aligned with how the other peoples of this earth think or feel.

When one goes to post on a forum or any other type of social place, it takes seconds to ask yourself the question; how will this effect my fellow people?

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I agree with you and I understand because I usually try to be very conscientious with the language I use... But I think it was all in good intention.

posted August 10, 2014 07:55 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
I agree with you and I understand because I usually try to be very conscientious with the language I use... But I think it was all in good intention.

Btw, how funny... I'm a Pisces Sun, Gem Moon! Is your Mercury aspected by Uranus? I love the way you express yourself! It's kinda funny, too!

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Sun in Pisces Moon in Gemini, then you are like my opposite, or my twin, lol.

I do not have any transits between Mercury and Uranus. You are free to look at my chart, if you wish.

posted August 10, 2014 08:01 PM            

I mean, if you all want to go get some drinks, I'll buy the first couple rounds.

posted August 10, 2014 08:18 PM              

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Originally posted by Brobian:
Sun in Pisces Moon in Gemini, then you are like my opposite, or my twin, lol.

I do not have any transits between Mercury and Uranus. You are free to look at my chart, if you wish.

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posted August 10, 2014 08:26 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Omg, we have so many tight aspects! How cool is that... I'd list them if it's not awkward for you. You do have Moon trine Uranus though, which is pretty good. Explains the humorous eccentricity. Your strong defense of Taurus folk makes even more sense now hehe! Are you a male or a female?

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Oh, it's not awkward to me at all! I do have a Gemini mind and I think people are fascinating. Actually, I'd be delighted to see your entire chart.

Oh, and I am a man and I have no problem announcing that I am attuned to my feminine side, as well as my masculine side. They are pretty evened out within me. However, I am only attracted to the female gender but I'll not ever judge any human for being who they were made to be.

posted August 10, 2014 08:42 PM              

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Originally posted by Brobian:
Oh, it's not awkward to me at all! I do have a Gemini mind and I think people are fascinating. Actually, I'd be delighted to see your entire chart.

Oh, and I am a man and I have no problem announcing that I am attuned to my feminine side, as well as my masculine side. They are pretty evened out within me. However, I am only attracted to the female gender but I'll not ever judge any human for being who they were made to be.

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posted August 10, 2014 08:45 PM            

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
I don't mind sharing my chart but I worry we're derailing the thread. We can start our own thread in Hearth and Home, if you'd like.

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I'll meet you there, that or hop in and I'll drive!

posted August 10, 2014 10:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Brobian:

I believe that you are of the male gender, age is in the late teens to early 20's, and you are of Taurus within your natal chart, possibly Sun and Moon both in Taurus. Inside you is turmoil and this turmoil is a battle over your true sexuality. I believe that you've posted this message in an effort to find answers. Answers you seek on your journey to find your true sexuality and, for some reason, what society thinks matters to you. However, the first person that should matter to you, is you!

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posted August 10, 2014 10:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Sigh!

I look forward to the day when being "girly" is not perceived as a weakness.

Asc Taurus here,Mars in Libra and 3 planets in the 7th house(including Venus).

I love "macho" related stuff like contact sports and running around throwing ball etc. But I am also very feminine.In that,I am quite soft.

Libras I know do not have the same "like" for these kind of things or may not even care for them, but I think that they should be included herein. They also tend to act soft.

But I have noticed that people with Venus-heavy chart have this emphasis on femininity and softness that becomes even more pronounced,than just the Sun/Moon placement being in Libra/Taurus.

By "Venus heavy",I mean;

-Venus on the angle(1,4,7,and 10th)
-Unaspected Venus
-Venus strongly aspected
-Strong emphasis of Venus-ruled planets; Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Mars
-Strong emphasis on 2nd house/7th house placements

Venus tends to "soften" people and even the ones that have heavy Venus and don't act "feminine/soft" externally, do have "tell tale" signs.

A Venus heavy guy may, for instance, like playing rugby and doing physical things that have a "masculine" association.

But you will notice the "Venus touch" when they take a shower with a freshly scented shower gel,lotion their body with "soft to the touch" cocoa butter or put on underwear/clothes that are well-fitted and accentuates certain beautiful physical features.

That's Venus.

For anyone who is interestd, you should check out porn star legend Brian Pumper's birth chart. Now that is a typical Venus guy.

The emphasis of Venus placements on his chart are so mind-blowing that finding the Asc seems unnecessary.

He looks,sounds and acts like the typical Venusian man. And I think he is flat out gorgeous.

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posted August 10, 2014 10:41 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
lol, that might just be as offensive as the title. My heart aches with compassion for OP.

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In my original post, I started it off by saying "my apologies, which indicates a friendly gesture. However, you've felt the need to remove it from the quote. I'm curious, was this maybe to enhance the "evil intent" of my words?

This was my original post:

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Originally posted by Brobian:
My apologies but I do not believe for a second that you just randomly thought Taurus guys are girly, especially when you only know three. You have put in way to much detail here and have spent much time obsessing over this.

I believe that you are of the male gender, age is in the late teens to early 20's, and you are of Taurus within your natal chart, possibly Sun and Moon both in Taurus. Inside you is turmoil and this turmoil is a battle over your true sexuality. I believe that you've posted this message in an effort to find answers. Answers you seek on your journey to find your true sexuality and, for some reason, what society thinks matters to you. However, the first person that should matter to you, is you!

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posted August 10, 2014 11:17 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ Why did I remove your “friendly gesture” ?..I hate masks, I just get rid of them whenever I see them.

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Well, with the utmost respect onto you, my good sir. Maybe you should take what you direct outward and turn it inward, to your own heart and remove it's mask. When you've have fully accepted yourself for the negative and positive characteristics, the fundamental building blocks, which create your person. That mask will no longer be needed.