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Topic: Do highly plutonian/scorpion people get a bit "scared" of other perceptive people?
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Dreaminess
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posted August 24, 2014 09:59 AM
 
Do they feel uncomfortable feeling "naked" around a person they feel sees through them?IP: Logged |
whaaat
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posted August 24, 2014 10:06 AM
Got a secret
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Swear this one you'll save
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Taking this one to the grave
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Dreaminess
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posted August 24, 2014 10:08 AM
whaaat, haha nice one  IP: Logged |
Doux Ręve
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posted August 24, 2014 10:18 AM
Depends on if they're comfortable with that part of themselves.IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted August 25, 2014 12:16 AM
YES!!! I have only met two other people in my life that I knew had my same ability to get inside someone's head. I did not like it at all!!! One woman was my neighbor years ago, and she was into witchcraft. I knew she could read my mind and it made me very uncomfortable. She would ask very personal questions, and look for the slightest tell. I knew exactly what she was doing, because I do it too, although I'm not so intrusive. Luckily I have a stone cold poker face, and I wouldn't even move a muscle. I had to fight the urge for the tension to not release through an involuntary twitch, but I was able to. However, there was one time when I went inside my apartment I had a meltdown, and flew into a furious anger. I couldn't believe she had effected me like that, but I didn't like being on the receiving end. It taught me a huge lesson that it's not my right to know everything about a person, so I'm a lot more respectful of other's boundaries. I felt very violated by her. The other woman that I knew that had this ability was a very sweet Cancer sun woman, although she was incredibly troubled emotionally. I knew her through work. She had an absolutely phenomenal body that every woman was envious of, but I knew she had an eating disorder and had undergone plastic surgery trying to be perfect. No one else suspected that she'd had surgery, and she looked healthy, not emaciated like people expect a bulimic person to look. Sadly eating disorders are so much more common than people realize, and most people never tell a single soul. She confided in me, which I had already known her secret, and then admitted she had the same telepathic abilities. She knew things about my relationship that I had not told anyone else at work, but I wasn't threatened by her in any way. I knew that like me, she only wanted to help others, and wasn't on some ego driven power trip like my neighbor had been. Some people are just very observant and are good at picking up on subtle nuances, but I knew that her ability was truly telepathic/empathetic because she was not very bright. She was pretty ditzy actually, and a lot went over her head, but she was very emotionally in tune to others. I'm sure I've met others that have flown under the radar, but these are the only two people that I was aware of. It was quite eye opening, and it made me realize why many adults were so frightened of me as a child. People don't like being read like a book, and it took me experiencing it first hand to realize how unnerving it can be. IP: Logged |
Plutonian_Gal8
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posted August 25, 2014 12:53 AM
Hard for a plutonian person to even accept the term "scared" to be honest.We're huge on power/gaining control/sustaining control. Another person who seems to have an equal measure of this and possibly more, is intriguing FOR ME. I've only been around one guy who seems to make me feel "naked" every single time I'm around him and he's a fellow Scorpio Rising/Virgo Sun. Virgo's intellect alone intrigues me very much. Other than that, if I am around a perceptive person who can see me in my rawness…I would like to think it's rather exciting than intimidating… IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86
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posted August 25, 2014 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by Plutonian_Gal8:
Other than that, if I am around a perceptive person who can see me in my rawness…I would like to think it's rather exciting than intimidating…
BINGO I'm actually turned-on by others like myself. Not intimidated at all. I wish there were more of them! As long as the person uses their wisdom, knowledge & "power" for good...it's a great thing. I love mind-f*cking each other! Lol. IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted August 25, 2014 01:56 AM
Plutonian people are capable of being scared. Paranoia and fear of losing control are classic Scorpio traits, although they might not like to admit it. The woman into witchcraft put a curse on me giving me a toothache. I never told her about the toothache, but she made sure that I was aware it was her doing. She also killed her husband in a "hunting accident" so I didn't cross her. She was very fixated on me, and I think she was trying to steal my energy. I thought witchcraft and curses were complete nonsense until I experienced it first hand. I hated to even acknowledge she had that power, but it was very real. I will admit I was impressed with her ability to channel her energy, but she used her powers for sinister reasons. I absolutely hated the fact that she knew things that I was not even ready to admit to myself. She knew exactly what she was doing, and used her telepathy to intimidate and torment others. It made me feel like I was at her mercy, and that's a feeling I was not familiar with. She scared the bejesus out of me!
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posted August 25, 2014 03:08 AM
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
Plutonian people are capable of being scared. Paranoia and fear of losing control are classic Scorpio traits, although they might not like to admit it.
You can absolutely place paranoia in neon lights for Scorpio/Plutonian persons, yes! But "fear" is a stretch IMO. Would love to hear others' experiences/opinions. I own the paranoia honestly! Before I meet anyone new, I must have as much 411 about them as possible. When ppl plant me into a situation lacking specific details of the environment and the people within it, I seethe immediately. My BF for exp. His ex made it her business to remain in the loop with his extended family/friends. When I met one particular female friend of his for the first time, she was smiling and pleasant; I could tell she took to me very well. A few days later "obsessively" looking over his social media page, I drew the conclusion that this particular female is VERY close to my BF's ex. I was super ****** off! In MY book "forewarned is forearmed" at ALL times. I wouldn't have been a grinning and unassuming idiot to this female, had I known. The mishandle of control had me angry, but NOT fearful/scared. What quickly happens, is I get into "seize that power via manipulation" mode. Nothing malicious at all. Strategy occurs if I'm that much concerned with it. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg
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posted August 25, 2014 08:06 AM
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Originally posted by Doux Ręve:
Depends on if they're comfortable with that part of themselves.
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posted August 25, 2014 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
Do they feel uncomfortable feeling "naked" around a person they feel sees through them?
Nope, quite the opposite. IP: Logged |
Vajra
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posted August 25, 2014 02:53 PM
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MiaPluto
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posted August 25, 2014 03:59 PM
No I actually like them.Mercury square Pluto, Mars in Scorpio 8th house. ------------------
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posted August 25, 2014 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
Do they feel uncomfortable feeling "naked" around a person they feel sees through them?
Hell yeah.
Once I've me and some friends got down to our favorite bar and met some people who we sat down with, the place was crowded and someone of my friends knew someone in the other company so we decided to sit down with them.
I ended up next to this drunken guy, who most likely has a criminal record and his girlfriend. I've never felt Pluto so strong in anyone, he was acting out all of his crap and even tho he read me mostly wrong, my 12 house Virgo/libra Mars was on the brink of meltdown after just 5 minutes with this guy. He made me feel disgusted and I choose to leave the table and headed to a bar at another floor.
It's over 6 months ago now but just thinking about him still makes me upset.
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Koho
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posted August 25, 2014 05:24 PM
I'm a Scorpio Sun and I actually appreciate when a person is perceptive. It allows for a quicker connection. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted August 25, 2014 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
BINGO I'm actually turned-on by others like myself. Not intimidated at all. I wish there were more of them! As long as the person uses their wisdom, knowledge & "power" for good...it's a great thing. I love mind-f*cking each other! Lol.
hahha It can be fun I agree!
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posted August 25, 2014 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by whaaat:Got a secret
Can you keep it?
Swear this one you'll save
Better lock it in your pocket
Taking this one to the grave
If I show you then I know you won't tell what I said
'Cause two can keep a secret if one of them is dead. -The Pierces
The problem with that, esp. since we are dealing with Scorpio/Plutonian energy, is the risk of the dead one rising up like a Phoenix/Eagle.
(I'd look out..she probably gonna be crabby atchyou now.)
 Maybe why some would favor a messy beheading over an old fashioned BBQ?..  Remember the Highlander movies? IP: Logged |
misslani
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posted August 26, 2014 10:05 AM
Not personally. Whenever I'm around someone like that (usually other Scorpionic/Plutonian person), my first thought it "Challenge accepted".  I usually like them right away and feel drawn to them and really enjoy "reading" them and watch them being fascinated of my ability to tell them exactly how they think and feel and what they mean by the way they express themselves. Of course, most of them aren't aware of my interest in astrology (which I don't reveal as I use it as my secret weapon ).IP: Logged |
theunknown
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posted August 26, 2014 10:15 AM
this thread is based on the same logic as your scorp venuses threadAs a plutonian, I am not scared of perceptive people. I am attracted to them. Makes fun conversation. I hate anything pedestrian. Pluto wants to get to the truth. I think you are mis-judging plutonian energy IP: Logged |
Dreaminess
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posted August 26, 2014 11:46 AM
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this thread is based on the same logic as your scorp venuses threadAs a plutonian, I am not scared of perceptive people. I am attracted to them. Makes fun conversation. I hate anything pedestrian. Pluto wants to get to the truth. I think you are mis-judging plutonian energy
No, i am just talking out of my experience with them and by "scared" i dont mean scared scared i mean like uncomfortable etc.The ones i talk out of experience with tends to get actually slightly annoyed by people they see as perceptive, its like they see them as "invasive" in a way. But good for you that you like it. IP: Logged |
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posted August 26, 2014 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
No, i am just talking out of my experience with them and by "scared" i dont mean scared scared i mean like uncomfortable etc.The ones i talk out of experience with tends to get actually slightly annoyed by people they see as perceptive, its like they see them as "invasive" in a way. But good for you that you like it.
If someone is perceptive or plutonian, I notice right away. The thing with pluto is that it causes one to think of oneself as a force to be reckoned with (consciously or subconsciously). Plutonian people like to walk around and point out the truth, force people to face the truth so when they meet someone of their equal, of course they would take notice because it means they might not have the upper hand any more. That is exciting but a bit frightening too. All the plutonian people I know really like to be impressed by another plutonian. IP: Logged |
Dreaminess
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posted August 26, 2014 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by theunknown:
If someone is perceptive or plutonian, I notice right away. The thing with pluto is that it causes one to think of oneself as a force to be reckoned with (consciously or subconsciously). Plutonian people like to walk around and point out the truth, force people to face the truth so when they meet someone of their equal, of course they would take notice because it means they might not have the upper hand any more. That is exciting but a bit frightening too. All the plutonian people I know really like to be impressed by another plutonian.
"Plutonian people like to walk around and point out the truth, force people to face the truth so when they meet someone of their equal, of course they would take notice because it means they might not have the upper hand any more. That is exciting but a bit frightening too." This is exactly what i am seeing and have experienced.This happened to me with a scorpio moon man his pluto also conjunctions his moon and trines both of his sun and mercury and squares his venus and mars. He dug up something about me but when i dug up something about him right back he got all silent, alittle surprised that i knew that, uncomfortable and suddenly wanted to switch the conversation. He wanted me to see my truth but he didnt want to see his truth.He always felt "threaten" by me in a way bc i saw more of him than he wanted me to.He wanted to be the "truth" bringer and always dug something up about others and threw that in their faces, he is very intense. But when the tables were turned he didnt like it at all. IP: Logged |
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posted August 26, 2014 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
"Plutonian people like to walk around and point out the truth, force people to face the truth so when they meet someone of their equal, of course they would take notice because it means they might not have the upper hand any more. That is exciting but a bit frightening too."This is exactly what i am seeing and have experienced.This happened to me with a scorpio moon man his pluto also conjunctions his moon and trines both of his sun and mercury and squares his venus and mars. He dug up something about me but when i dug up something about him right back he got all silent, alittle surprised that i knew that, uncomfortable and suddenly wanted to switch the conversation. He wanted me to see my truth but he didnt want to see his truth.He always felt "threaten" by me in a way bc i saw more of him than he wanted me to.He wanted to be the "truth" bringer and always dug something up about others and threw that in their faces, he is very intense. But when the tables were turned he didnt like it at all.
well,
your experiences with this dude is all synastry. I am generally private (like any other plutonian person). But pluto is in your face. It asks you to burn things down and rebuild things up again. Plutonian people are the most straight-forward, upfront people there are. Of course complications in synastry and natal charts can result in different experiences. But that should not be pinned on the plutonian influence *alone. IP: Logged |
Dreaminess
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posted August 26, 2014 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by theunknown:
well,
your experiences with this dude is all synastry. I am generally private (like any other plutonian person). But pluto is in your face. It asks you to burn things down and rebuild things up again. Plutonian people are the most straight-forward, upfront people there are. Of course complications in synastry and natal charts can result in different experiences.But that should not be pinned on the plutonian influence *alone.
Yeah..about synastry we almost had a perfect synastry chart between us  my moon conj his sun and mercury, venus conj venus, double whammy venus-mars conj and sextile, moon trine moon his mars sextile my sun and alot more good aspects but we did have pluto squares between us, his pluto squared my venus and my pluto squared his mars and double whammy hard neptune sun aspects square and opposition maybe it came from this i dont know..
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posted August 26, 2014 01:38 PM
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Yeah..about synastry we almost had a perfect synastry chart between us my moon conj his sun and mercury, venus conj venus, double whammy venus-mars conj and sextile, moon trine moon his mars sextile my sun and alot more good aspects but we did have pluto squares between us, his pluto squared my venus and my pluto squared his mars and double whammy hard neptune sun aspects square and opposition maybe it came from this i dont know..
It's probably the mars-square pluto. The way you describe it sound like a mercury square or a mars square.
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