posted September 05, 2014 01:40 AM            

tUranus inconjunct nMars in effect when this bizarre fiasco first happened. Also tSaturn inconjunct nSun.

posted September 05, 2014 09:32 AM            

Hmm.. suffered cardiac arrest last week during a procedure on her vocal cords.?
Vocal.
Cords.
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"But many people, from celebrities to journalists, have talked about how mean Rivers was to people and how she crossed the line to offend others in the name of humour.
Rivers usually defended her points by explaining that she is just making people laugh and her comments aren't anything people wouldn't say to their friends."
(.......... Gay? Fat? Needs a shave? Etc. Really? )
"CNN's Fredricka Whitfield was interviewing Rivers about her new book and decided to ask Rivers why she makes so many offensive jokes.
Rivers didn't like the line of questioning and after a brief rant stormed away from the camera. Late Show host David Letterman jokingly stormed out of an interview he was conducting with her a couple days later."
See it here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lKS-Et-VmE

What is scary, is the moment in which she gets told that what she's doing is mean.
Her answer? "I'm telling the truth!"
Pretty damn sad.

"Of course, what most people know her for is making fun of other people's choice of clothing. Here she is taking some shots at the royals for what they wore to William and Kate's wedding. "This is the last picture they got before the house was dropped on her," Rivers said about Princess Anne."
Racist comments... Etc etc.
Gemini gone wrong? My mercury in Scorpio on the MC couldn't help it but go whole detective on her. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dlFvEp-2NA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZsYBBIIO3s
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I don't know much about her and I don't want to judge/show up with theories ONLY from what I have seen in her chart.

Guess I'll put my 2 cents anyways.

I heard she had a snake tongue, talked freely in a fun way about people. Comedian stuff. Her job. That's fine, I do it too, maybe you too, but I wouldn't find it necesarry to startle so much attention by throwing harsh comments at random people there and there. Ex: calling adele fat, that the baby of Kim kardashian needs a good shave and that he is ugly. That is not quite sweet. Not quite.

Then I'm getting to the main idea of what I stated in the first breath of my post.

"Hmm.. suffered cardiac arrest last week during a procedure on her vocal cords.?
Vocal.
Cords.
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Now, now. She has health problems with her voice? Oh? Neck? No wonder. What a coincidence.
I have a similar case in my family, my grandmother. Won't stop talking. Doesn't listen to anyone else. Its all her. Can't stop talking. Uses all her energy through talking, also HARMING others through her voice. A lot. Doesn't realize it, though. Maybe it was the same for Joan.
My grandmas only health problem? ONLY? Neck cancer. She can't use her neck much, anymore.

We live in a huge network of energy, if only we knew how much negative energy weighs a bad word sent to another person. The worst word is "hate". The opposite of " love". I tend to apologize if I ever use it , even though I avoid doing it. Same goes with the other words. Even if you don't mean it. It's the energy of the word.
I wonder how many words Joan used like this her whole career..

)What goes around... Comes around.(

But, baaaack to my main idea, the spine of my theory.

Ruler of Taurus (neck/talking) in her chart, Venus, is conjunct Mercury at anaretic degree 29 38' 30''. 3rd house. Communication. On IC.
29th degree: Called the Anaretic Degree(Devore: from the Greek: destroyer, that which destroys form, that which kills.)

Nothing else but her sweet vocal chords (venus ruler of Taurus) which she used in media a lot in order to communicate (conjunct mercury), but being controversial - opposite MC, sextile Uranus.
Yet... Trine her NN. Guess it was meant for her to get into media and communicate. But like this? Did she have to use her Venus/mercury in such a way?
I guess not. That's why her death was exactly caused by that.
Sextile DEJANIRA.... yeah. I don't know.

EDIT: osteoporosis too. Saturn retro in 11th. Oh joy.

posted September 05, 2014 11:49 AM            

Astrologically, Ixion signifies busy-ness, workaholism, lust to acquire or possess, materialism and its consequences, lack of appreciation or gratitude, to take things for granted, being on a treadmill, being without regrets, being harmed by one's own creations or ingenuity or through something artificial, hubris, karma, rediscovering something simpler, strength through joy, creating trouble, creating change, lust for life, charisma, inventiveness, ingenuity, having one's mistakes or evil take on a life of their own, passing problems down through the generations, "breaking eggs in order to make omelets", "taking the tiger by the tail."

posted September 05, 2014 12:44 PM            

Saturn in martial Scorpio squared her natal Saturn in Aquarius.

Its interesting to note that she died while under a so-called outpatient medical procedure. A procedure that shouldn't require any overnight stay.

But with Martial Scorpio in Saturn squaring her natal Saturn, anything involving surgery(Mars ruled Scorpio is blood,surgery etc)was going to come with some complications

Perhaps not always death, but it was likely that even if she survived the operation- she would have had to take some time off to recover. The Saturn-Saturn square does not let off that easy.

Also,her Sun/Saturn midpoint in Taurus was opposing transiting Saturn in Scorpio.

And the suddenness and unexpected nature of her death made me think of Uranus. Uranus also in Aries (Mars ruled)didn't make any significant aspects with her natal planets.

But if we look at her Sun/Uranus midpoint, there is a conjunction to transiting Uranus in Aries.

posted September 05, 2014 01:50 PM            

Did you see the Robin Williams chart for the day of his death? The asteroids were mind boggling.

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posted September 05, 2014 02:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Yes, but not asteroids. So sad. I remember the day it happened I first got word when I was standing in the checkout line getting groceries and a fellow shopper informed me, so many people affected by his passing. I think in part it's bringing to the fore their own struggles with depression, because it stands in stark contrast to his comedic image.

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Yes, so nice to see you back here, Lonake!

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posted September 05, 2014 02:52 PM            

I really need TLC though, at times, but right when I need it someone seems to give it to me

I wrote a new post on the LL2 thread for Joan that I wanted you to check out.

I will copy and paste it on here for you.

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posted September 05, 2014 02:53 PM            

Also, Nessus was in there, too.

I started doing an article on it and it was so depressing to me.

She insulted people who WOULD and could have been vindictive and it was pretty recently.

How hard would it have been to slip a drug in during surgery.

I truly feel like I lost a friend because she was a real role model to me in her fearless honesty!

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posted September 05, 2014 04:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Im not too familiar with those bodies. You mentioned Pholus conj the Moon, that would be significant depending on orb as it heralds a turning point. The Moon rules the 4th. The asteroids highlight some details whereas the bigger picture is seen by the major bodies, is that how you work with it, Ami?

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posted September 05, 2014 04:27 PM            

Karma conjunct Destinn interestingly. How do you think anyone knew she was going to be available for poisoning? Seems a stretch. People die under anesthesia often.

posted September 05, 2014 05:11 PM            

I do the planets, angles and aspects first and then go onto the asteroids. You are right, my Friend xx

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posted September 05, 2014 05:12 PM            

Orchus conj Chiron exact. Orchus is having to confront death and usually rising up from the ashes. I have it conj the Sun. I don't think mine is exact. I can't remember.

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posted September 06, 2014 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by stillatlarge:
Whoever said foul play, I agree. Not necessarily astrological based except if you check my chart, my hunches are often right. It's just a gut feeling. I read up on the logistics of these kind of outpatient procedures and different ways of anaesthetizing people, the different benefits/risks, the equipment necessary to save a life if complications occur, the qualifications to do the different types, etc. Something isn't right about this. It seems strange to me if they were putting her under general anaesthesia where she would have to breathe through a tube, then how could they get the scope down the airway to do the exam in the first place? Something is off here. I think there's something to the 'starwhacker' thing. Too many wierd celebrity deaths, suicides, cluster of hangings, ALWAYS something in these cases that doesn't add up but is never investigated like Amy Winehouse. Drums, howling, the coroner's report about genital trauma. It would make a good Kubrick movie.

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Thanks for your input.

I think she was talking too much about political people and she was too visible.

I am truly at a loss like I lost a friend

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posted September 06, 2014 03:55 PM            

Spirit-Psyche in Scorpio
Horus-DNA in Leo
Angel-Mars-Jupiter in Virgo
Destinn-Moon in Sagittarius
Kaali-Uranus in Aries
Union-Venus-Mercury in Gemini

Transiting aspects at the time of her death, going by your theory:
Transit Karma opposite Natal Sun
Transit Karma square Jupiter-Mars
Transit Karma conjunct Moon-Destinn

posted September 06, 2014 05:10 PM            

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Angel-Mars-Jupiter in Virgo
Horus-DNA in Leo oh her power is in her DNA!